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Spiderman Preview T/hread!#675
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:46pm
I've had actors get concussions in far less physically intensive shows (with no flying). It happens. Any actor or dancer who goes into this business knows that injuries are bound to happen. Look at the recent accident at the Donmar where an actor almost lost an eye to a faulty prop gun.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#676
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:49pm
They chose to say Natalie Mendoza has "concussion" instead of saying, "Natalie Mendoza Hospitalized" That's some very crafty word spinning. Could you imagine how much more damage it would be if they chose that as the headline?
Can I just say that I'm sure Julie Taymor is now regretting bribing the state wire inspectors, instead of heeding to their safety recommendations.
UPDATE:
Michael Riedel's line is still busy, I wonder why?
Updated On: 12/2/10 at 08:49 PM
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Spiderman Preview T/hread!#677
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:50pmits an occupational hazard.. sure this show is intense and has a rough history but it happens.. just the other day an actor fell during an easy number in ELF when i was there.. and that was ELF! unfortunately things like that will happen
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#678
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:51pm
Again...I am NOT denying that accidents do happen. Believe me, I broke my wrist during a show that involved no stunts or anything a few years ago.
My point is however, is that this show is something we have never seen on Broadway. They have people flying around in ways that is not very common in theater. The stunts in the show are pushing the envelope...and again this has been said by Taymor herself. And with 2 accidents already under their belt...they should be a lot more worried about what is going on.
Accidents do happen...and in this show, they are bound to happen.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#679
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:51pm
Again...I am NOT denying that accidents do happen. Believe me, I broke my wrist during a show that involved no stunts or anything a few years ago.
My point is however, is that this show is something we have never seen on Broadway. They have people flying around in ways that is not very common in theater. The stunts in the show are pushing the envelope...and again this has been said by Taymor herself. And with 2 accidents already under their belt...they should be a lot more worried about what is going on.
Accidents do happen...and in this show, they are bound to happen.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#680
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:51pmOOPS Sorry...clicked "sumbit" to many times
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#681
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:54pmA commercial just came on for Spiderman as I was reading this thread. It oddly interspersed footage of the show with what looked like rehearsal footage, even a shot of Taymor looking cheery during rehearsal. It seemed odd because who aside from theater nerds knows what Julie Taymor looks like?
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#682
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:56pmPlease...in Taymor's mind...everyone knows who she is and what she looks like.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#683
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:56pmbut a concussion????actors do get injured all the time but this sounds very serious.ok,two other actors have gotten hurt in this show and now a third in such a close proximity to each other(i mean within weeks almost)and NOBODY is looking into this?this show is a lawsuit waiting to happen.what happens if one of the stunts go wrong and an actor falls on a audience member or (god forbid a fatality happens).i know you can say that the actors and performers knew what they signed up for BUT STILL this is just too scary now and it looks like no one is taking this seriously either.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#684
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:57pm
That's okay fingerlakessinger, accidents happen.
By the way, even if her injuries aren't show related, it's still hard to lose one of your leads after two previews, especially in a complicated show like this. Just putting in the understudy probably took up most of today's rehearsal.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#685
Posted: 12/2/10 at 8:59pm
True...I didnt even think of that. Especially during previews where things such as lines/lyrics change daily...
Well...except for this show
The convo most likely went like this...
Taymor: Hey Olivio! Your on! Let's get ya strapped up and up in the air!
America: Shouldnt I learn the new lines?
Taymor: ....what new lines?
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Spiderman Preview T/hread!#686
Posted: 12/2/10 at 9:02pm
"They chose to say Natalie Mendoza has "concussion" instead of saying, "Natalie Mendoza Hospitalized" That's some very crafty word spinning."
Is she hospitalized? If she isn't, then it isn't crafty at all. It's a simple fact.
"Can I just say that I'm sure Julie Taymor is now regretting bribing the state wire inspectors, instead of heeding to their safety recommendations".
Unless you can prove that's true, no, not unless you're willing to open yourself to a libel suit. Can we just stick to the facts as we know them, please? Besides, who are "the state wire inspectors"?
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#687
Posted: 12/2/10 at 9:18pmYou can't have a libel suit over an anonymous, non-threatening message board comment.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#688
Posted: 12/2/10 at 9:28pm
Sure you can, if someone is determined enough and you're traceable, and besides, libel has nothing to do with threats.
Of course no one will bother, but I think it's sleazy to suggest that bribery occurred, both on behalf of Taymor and "the state wire inspectors", whoever they may be.
Updated On: 12/2/10 at 09:28 PM
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#689
Posted: 12/2/10 at 9:38pm
Does concussion really sound better than hospitalized? Either way- this is totally shocking. All hope she gets better. What about Reidel's line being busy? Is there like a Reidel snark hotline we can call or something?
PS: Yes, you can sue for libel over an 'anonymous' message board comment if it is a) false and b) damages the reputation of the subject, but a single reference is probably not basis for the hostility proponent that usually comes with libel suits.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#690
Posted: 12/2/10 at 9:58pmI can concussion can happen very easily. It doesn't mean she fell from 10 feet in the air, it can easily mean she just bumped her head on something, or tripped and hit her head. It doesn't seem that serious if she is back on Tuesday, it may just be for precautionary measures or doctor's orders.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#691
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:07pmConcussions can be something you get over very quickly, but they can also be something incredibly serious causing irrepressible or even mortal brain damage. It's amazing how light a hit on your head can result in a fatality or coma.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#692
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:09pmWhile the concussion may not be serious at the moment, I can't imagine flying around at 50mph would be good for someone right after a concussion...
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#693
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:20pmDoes she fly around at 50 mph? I haven't heard anything that says that she does.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#694
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:24pmOK 47.5 miles an hour, geesh.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#695
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:24pm
Even the hanging could aggravate it. My bf got a concussion playing basketball a few years back, and he had to sit out for nearly a month before the doctors would let him play again.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#696
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:28pmI have had a number of sports-related concussions and had to give up soccer in high school when I had three in a year. Everytime you have one, it gets easier to have the next. If she had hers in the show doing a stunt she's meant to do again every night, I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't the last time. The first one I had, I had to sit out a month, so I wouldn't think a doctor would let her go back long before opening, depending, of course, on the severity of the concussion.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/5/04
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#697
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:39pm
Sorry, SNAFU, it was a serious question. I know this actress flies, but is she in any of the high-speed stunts?
@Katurian: is your first sentence a typo? The way I'm reading it, it seems to contradict the rest of your post.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#698
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:44pm
Concussions are taken quite seriously these days. I've actually had three students so far this year be diagnosed this year alone. Each one is told not to do ANY sort of schoolwork as the brain just needs to rest.
I would imagine that if this WEREN'T show related, the production would be making sure that we all knew about it in a big way. They are (likely) figuring out the best way to spin this.
As far as WHO will protect the actors, the stunts were approved, so this will likely be claimed to be user error or other "not our fault" type of excuse.
Spiderman Preview T/hread!#699
Posted: 12/2/10 at 10:46pmghostlight- hah, I'm not sure what I was saying there! It's gone! X)
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