The 2005 Tony Awards Thread- Page 37

[Menken Fan]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:11pm

I have a question. So many people on this thread - obviously rabid theater fans like me - are now saying which shows they will or won't see following the awards show. Is this based solely on the number of awards a show won, or are you judging the show on the one abbreviated out-of context performance? Is this selectivity due to finances?

Maybe I'm a freak, but I go see every show I can, regardless of the Tony Awards. I would have missed so many fantastic, non-mainstream shows if I were that selective.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:12pm

SEVERAL of us said this week that PIAZZA would likely take the most awards -- just not Best Musical. It did the same at the Drama Desks and most of the "experts" predicted it would win at least 4 or 5 tonight (and most figured SPAMALOT would get three, just like a the Drama Desks). The only sort of surprise was the costume award that several had going to SPAMALOT. PIAZZA's six wins were not only well-deserved, but were predicted by most of the pundits.

[Marquise]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:15pm

I never understood the concept of one show winning best book, choreography and score and then the best musical award going to another show.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:17pm

Yes, I know Margo. I predicted it would too. I knew Spamalot would win. But it's undeserving in my opinion. The Light in the Piazza is far superior.

Yay, I'm seeing it again on Wednesday!

~Steven

[Tiny-Toon]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:17pm

I thought PIAZZA's number was great.. So I just bought a ticket
for July 2nd. 6th row center for $20!! :)Yeah.. I'm mad about Spamalot wining best musical, but we all knew it's gonna take it. The only "surprise" for me was the costume award which I thought La Cage will take. I'm also mad at La Cage for getting best revival. Overall, I liked last year's telecast much better.

Updated On: 6/5/05 at 11:17 PM

[NYC_or_Bust]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:18pm

Well i was a little upset by the whole thing. I mean i guess it was kind of cool because i was just in the city a couple of weeks ago, seeing a good portion of the nominees and who-not in their street clothes, and then to see them in the greatest theatre in the world dressed to the nines!
My analysis: Let another network carry the show (sans FOX). CBS always does a very classy job with the show, but I do agree, the past couple of years it has seemed like the entire thing just drags, personally I say let O'Donnell get back to hosting, there was a very big sense of FUN but yet organization....the past couple of years it just seems very makeshift really...I was so upset Jan Maxwell didn't win! LOVED the Christina Applegate bit, Crystal....a bit too much..a couple less interruptions could have been done with.

[MatureDignity]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:19pm

I think the show started off well, then began to drag. And they need a new sound guy. I wouldn't mind seeing another network give it a try, preferably a network that can handle the word "ass"

[MatureDignity]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:20pm

Spamalot's win wasn't met with a lot of joy, save for the people on stage. It was kind of a superficial win.

[ljay889]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:20pm

I found the whole night a little dissapointed. For some reason last year was SO much more exciting for me.

The performances were ALRIGHT. If I rank them in order I think they were the best/enjoyed the most

1. The Light in The Piazza
2. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
3. Sweet Charity
4. Spelling Bee
5.Spalamot
6. La Cage

- and a special note for the WONDERFUL ensemble of Chicago. such a REAL PLEASURE for me to see them perform this year.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:21pm

You're absolutely right, Marquise. It's called politics and voters voting their wallets -- SPAMALOT will make them rich, while PIAZZA probably won't/can't. It may extend through the end of the year at (not-for-profit) Lincoln Center, but whether it will tour and make a significant chunk of the voters money is an open question -- which is why it lost.

The Tonys (at least when it comes to the ONE award that means anything at the box office) are about commerce, not art.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:21pm

Double post

Updated On: 6/5/05 at 11:21 PM

[NYC_or_Bust]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:22pm

Is it me or did Christina Applegate majorly suck in her SC performance?

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:24pm

She was incredibly nervous. She's better in the show.

~Steven

[MTVMANN]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:25pm

Well, her voice was shakey, but look at it this way......for the character of Charity it was okay......

[kidmanboy]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:25pm

Anyone else upset that SPELLING BEE didn't get more recognition? I've seen every musical that was nominated for anything this season and by far i thought Spelling bee was the most enjoyable. I had high hopes for all of the other best musical nominees but they all left me with something to be desired. I enjoyed Piazza, and it had many redeeming qualities but it was highly flawed. (It was definitely no Caroline, or Change). It just seemed no one had mentioned spelling bee at all, so I figured I would share my opinion.

[ljay889]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:30pm

In Applegates defense:

In one of the interviews she said she was VERY FRIGHTENED to perform, even thought she does it 8 times a week. She made it known she was extremely nervous to peform.

lets not forget, she is still dancing on a broken foot.

The tempos were sped up, and the performers had trouble hearing the orchrestra.

She was in tune with her singing, and dancing was fine.

[PJ]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:31pm

I'm excited that Sara and Norbert won. But for next year, please, pleaseeeeeeeeee get someone new to host. Hugh Jackman was just plain boring this year. It's time to pass the torch onto someone else now.

And what was with the sound? Sheesh.

[HeyMrMusic]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:31pm

Spelling Bee, I thought, was my only hope for someone other than Spamalot winning. I highly enjoyed the show. I really want to see it again. But I think I liked Piazza a bit more. It should have gotten more recognition, though, you're right.

~Steven

[rclocalz]

Posted: 6/5/05 at 11:48pm

I think Spamalot deserved best musical. Piazza didn't do much for me. It's pretty, but that's it for me (hint the technical awards). Spamalot is quite a well done musical that is introducing Broadway to many people who are unfamiliar with the territory (like the many young and middle aged men who see it every week).

[Plum]

Posted: 6/6/05 at 12:11am

It's weird- the performances were better this year, but the overall ceremony seemed better last year. Or maybe my Hugh-goggles are skewing my vision.

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Posted: 6/6/05 at 12:41am

Plum, maybe that's why I personally enjoyed this year's better than last year's telecast. From everyone's opinion except mine, it seems that last year was done better, but I couldn't help enjoying this show more. True, I didn't like Hugh nearly as much as I did last year when he did the Dreamgirls number, and I thought the presenters writing was really bad...but to me the Tonys are about the musical numbers, and I think that other than the extra fluff numbers that had nothing to do with the actual nominees, it was done really well.

Posted: 6/6/05 at 11:03am

Thank you to Mr. Albee for the recognition of his partner - "For 35 years he made me a happy playwright, and tonight you have made me a happy playwright."

Coming so soon after his partner's death, it was a difficult moment for him, I'm sure - but it was beautiful, and hopefully touched some hearts of those who heard him.

[Dirty Rotten Scoundrel]

Posted: 6/6/05 at 1:10pm

OK TIME TO OBSESS MORE ABOUT NORBERT!!!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG IM SOOOO HAPPY FOR HIM


im in search for a therapist right now...dont worry...ive got issues...lmao!

and yes, i do need goals of my own.

im a butz-head, what can i say? lmao

[Thenardier]

Posted: 6/6/05 at 1:12pm

Whatta ya mean Hugh was boring? He wasn't even onstage....

[BroadwayPer4mer03]

Posted: 6/6/05 at 5:33pm

Here is what I think:
Spamalot should have gotten more
LITP should have gotten less
DRS and Spelling Bee got what they deserved
12 Angry Men should have gotten Best Play Revival
Brian F. O'Byrne should have won best Actor in a Play
I thought this awards show was pretty bad. Hugh Jackman bored me half to death. The performances all were on the mediocre side. There were a couple of funny, touching moments with Billy Crystal, Nathan Lane, and the whole Applegat around a lampost thing but thats about it. I would rank the performances in this order:

1. LITP( I hated the show but the performance was good enough for me)
2. Spamalot( this probably would have been the best performance if it werent for Sara Ramierz's illness)
3. Spelling Bee
4. La Cage(The show looks terrible but hey the dancing was impressive!
Tied for last: Sweet Charity and DRS( I was looking foward to seeing both shows but now I am definetley not going!)

Unfortuantely a bad ceremony for the Tonys, again. The awards were too predictable except for a few suprises in which the suprises were all lame desicions. Hugh Jackman was great the first year, the second year he was good, the third year I can't stand him! Oh well! Hopefully next year's better.