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Didn’t the Golden Globes lose ALL credibility a couple of years ago? What little they had, anyway.
News of that reached even me under my rock.

We care only in terms of Oscar predictions, right?

After finishing Emilia Pérez, Zoe is def taking “some” awards and hoping Ariana takes some home also but Zoe as best featured actress? Nope ! She should def be in the lead

My vote is for Ariana

Updated On: 12/9/24 at 12:25 PM

Category fraud sucks.

dramamama611 said: "I had the opposite opinion: I was more impressed with Grande than Erivo. I found Erivo's choices very safe. It probably didn't help that my expectations for Grande were fairly low."



I totally agree and have been trying to come up with the word for Erivo's performance. Safe. It hit me during "The Wizard and I". It was supposed to be a joyful moment for Elphaba and I just wasn't feeling it. Of, course she sang the heck out of it but her performance as a whole was fine but did not feel award worthy to me.(And maybe it was a directorial choice) Grande's did, and I predicted she would get a Golden Globe nomination, which she truly deserves in my opinion. I will be shocked if Erivo wins (I expect Demi Moore will take it). I do expect Grande to win. We will see! JMO

Updated On: 12/9/24 at 01:46 PM

uncageg said: "dramamama611 said: "I had the opposite opinion: I was more impressed with Grande than Erivo. I found Erivo's choices very safe. It probably didn't help that my expectations for Grande were fairly low."



I totally agree and have been trying to come up with the word for Erivo's performance. Safe. It hit me during "The Wizard and I". It was supposed to be a joyful moment for Elphaba and I just wasn't feeling it. Of, course she sang the heck out of it but her performance as a whole was fine but didnot feel award worthy to me.(And maybe it was a directorial choice) Grande's did, and I predicted she would get a Golden Globe nomination, which she truly deserves in my opinion. I will be shocked if Erivo wins (I expect Demi Moore willtake it). I do expect Grande to win. We will see! JMO

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Mikey Madison is my bet. She's in what might be the Best Picture frontrunner.

uncageg said: "I totally agree and have been trying to come up with the word for Erivo's performance. Safe. It hit me during "The Wizard and I".

I feel this also has something to do with the crazy amount of editing and autotune on her voice. It sounds really "tinny", it sucks the life out of it a bit. They didn't do nearly as much on Ariana's voice. It makes it sound a bit robotic, contained and safe.

The contrast between the things that were recorded live on set and the studio vocals was also too big I think, I love that they made the cuts, studio tracks work better as they always sound more perfect, but they could have made the difference a little less obvious. Another moment where this was too obvious was in Defying Gravity with the "it's me" line. It should be an explosion of a note, now it sounded autotuned, tinny, contained and therefore "safe".

Updated On: 12/10/24 at 05:21 PM

Seb28 said: "Jeffrey Karasarides said: "Wicked just received 4 Golden Globe nominations in the following categories:

Best Actress in a Motion Picture-Comedy/Musical (Cynthia Erivo)
Best Supporting Actress in any Motion Picture (Ariana Grande)"

Glinda is a lead role. Nessa, Boq, Fiyero are supporting.

And why is there a special musical actress award? It feels a bit like they are handing out the nominations in strategic and creative way so they don't overlap.
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The Golden Globes always separate out drama from musical/comedy (which are combined). It's led to some fun placements like Les Miz in the musical/comedy category

That just cheats the "rightful” winner of that category out of their win, though. Sad.

The whole story of The Reader centered around Kate’s character, I’m not sure I deem that category fraud.

The worst example of it, for me, is Brad Pitt. Doubled up with "overdue” syndrome.

This message board is as ridiculous as ever, Theatre just scored a big win with the Wicked movie, the majority thinks they pulled it off with style, the lead women (both women who have done theatre) get nominated for awards, the box office is great.



Broadway World is like 'but nobody takes these awards seriously'



Some people must just sit in a cloud of bitterness, it's sad.

And no, I'm not a Wicked fan, thought the film did a great job.

The Golden Globes are pretty widely not taken particularly seriously, even within the industry. This is not news. They’re the “fun” awards but they’re not useful as Oscar precursors due to the category splits and the extremely small and unrepresentative voting pool (and, yknow, the years and years of starf*ckery and corruption, going back to the 50s!)

Seb28 said: "uncageg said: "I totally agree and have been trying to come up with the word for Erivo's performance. Safe. It hit me during "The Wizard and I".

I feel this also has something to do with the crazy amount of editing and autotune on her voice. It sounds really "tinny", it sucks the life out of it a bit. They didn't do nearly as much on Ariana's voice. It makes it sound a bit robotic.

The contrast between the things that were recorded live on set and the studio vocals was also too big I think, I love that they made the cuts, studio tracks work better as they always sound more perfect, but they could have made the difference a little less obvious. Another moment where this was too obvious was in Defying Gravity with the "it's me" line. It already sounds safe because she sings so easily, and the tinny robotic edit sound makes it sound even more safe."



The vocal mixing had nothing to do with it for me. It was just her overall performance.