Unpopular theatre opinions- Page 6

[Alex Kulak2]

Posted: 7/22/20 at 8:31pm

The OBC of Les Miserables' heavy use of really fake, cheesy-sounding synth orchestrations make the album borderline unlistenable to me.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/22/20 at 9:31pm

for those of us who cut our teeth on euro synth pop, thems fightin words.

[Alex Kulak2]

Posted: 7/22/20 at 9:35pm

HogansHero said: "for those of us who cut our teeth on euro synth pop, thems fightin words. "

I know, but it's always just been something I really don't find appealing to the ear. It's not just Les Miz. I find a lot of Laurence O'Keefe's music relies really heavily on a synthy, easy-listening style that I'm not a fan of. The one exception is Adding Machine, where I think the artificial nature of the synthesizer fits with the theme of the show.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 7/23/20 at 9:11pm

ENOUGH with harping on Cameron Dallas being cast in Mean Girls. Literally it's enough. There is absolutely no reason to keep hating on him when there are so many other things happening in the world that you should be focusing on. Seriously. Moveon.com. You say he didn't work hard?He got cast, yes. His audition process may have been different. But no one learned the lines for him. No one did the choreography for him. So let's allll move on, shall we? Thanks! 

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 9:06am

" I find Matthew Broderick to be wooden and boring as hell on stage. "

I think quite a few people feel the same way about him, I know I do -lol.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 9:07am

I really liked "Bandstand" and "Something Rotten".

[jesse benet]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 11:26am

pathman2 said: "I was disappointed when I saw Hamilton. Maybe it was overhyped, but I also thought it was overstaged to the point of excess. It’ll be interesting to see the taped version to see what they focus on and if that changes things for me. I also found the depiction of King George to be homophobic—“gayface” if you will. Especially since the writer comes from a community known for machismo and homophobia. I get that the role is comic relief, but I found it offensive."

I also found Hamilton overhyped (and the praise for Groff weird, as he does little but stand there and sing the same song thrice) but the comment about Lin's "community" doesn't sit well with me. As if most communities, ethnicities, and cultures around the world aren't hyper-masculine and homophobic? I wouldn't assume someone who is, say, Russian or African, is automatically homophobic. Seems like a weird jab at Puerto Ricans. 

The song + role could easily be played as more menacing and "straight" if you will, or with a King Herod vibe, or just... not by Groff, a gay actor. The song's a love/hate letter to America, which is usually viewed in female terms ("lady liberty" "America the beautiful". 

[Hot Pants]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 11:38am

Groff’s sexuality has absolutely no bearing on the show or his role.

[jesse benet]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 11:48am

Groff is gay and very out: of course that had more bearing on pathman2's opinion on King George being gayface. Blaming Lin for being Puerto Rican seems the bigger offense to me but  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ your bias on who to defend is obvious. 

Updated On: 7/26/20 at 11:48 AM

[Alex Kulak2]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 1:41pm

jesse benet said: "pathman2 said: "I was disappointed when I saw Hamilton. Maybe it was overhyped, but I also thought it was overstaged to the point of excess. It’ll be interesting to see the taped version to see what they focus on and if that changes things for me. I also found the depiction of King George to be homophobic—“gayface” if you will. Especially since the writer comes from a community known for machismo and homophobia. I get that the role is comic relief, but I found it offensive."

I also found Hamilton overhyped (and the praise for Groff weird, as he does littlebut stand there and sing the same song thrice) but the comment about Lin's "community" doesn't sit well with me. As if most communities, ethnicities, and cultures around the world aren't hyper-masculine and homophobic? I wouldn't assume someone who is, say, Russian or African,is automatically homophobic. Seems like a weird jab at Puerto Ricans.

The song + role could easily be played as more menacing and "straight" if you will, or with aKing Herod vibe, or just... not by Groff, a gay actor. The song's a love/hate letter to America, which is usually viewed in female terms ("lady liberty" "Americathe beautiful"."

I also find the depiction of Lin as coming from a working class family kind of dishonest. His mother's a psychiatrist with a longtime association to Planned Parenthood, his father is a political consultant that helped get Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer into the Senate, and he went to one of the best public high schools in the country.

I don't disagree that the Puerto Rican community can be perceived as closed-minded and hypermasculine, but I don't think Lin's specific family has that problem.

[Leaf Coneybear]

Posted: 7/25/20 at 5:10pm

I think Something Rotten had some of the funniest songs and most entertaining book I've ever seen in a show.

[Babe_Williams]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 3:54pm

SweetLips22 said: "Dolly80 said: "Lin Manuel Miranda cannot sing.

And why the hell was he in Mary Poppins? He ain't British, would not have sold ONE ticket because he was in it, and that opening song showed that he is not a singer[like Dick Van Dyke], or an actor. Not even pleasing to the eye--IMHO.

"

 

Is this a serious question? 

 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 3:59pm

hearthemsing22 said: "ENOUGH with harping on Cameron Dallas being cast in Mean Girls. Literally it's enough. There is absolutely no reason to keep hating on him when there are so many other things happening in the world that you should be focusing on. Seriously. Moveon.com. You say he didn't work hard?He got cast, yes. His audition process may have been different. But no one learned the lines for him. No one did the choreography for him. So let's allll move on, shall we? Thanks!"

Nah, but it's cute you are trying to control people. He cannot act, he cannot sing. He never should have been on a Broadway stage. (Oh, and mods before you delete this, it's my opinion in an opinion thread)). ThanksSoMuch. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 3:59pm

hearthemsing22 said: "ENOUGH with harping on Cameron Dallas being cast in Mean Girls. Literally it's enough. There is absolutely no reason to keep hating on him when there are so many other things happening in the world that you should be focusing on. Seriously. Moveon.com. You say he didn't work hard?He got cast, yes. His audition process may have been different. But no one learned the lines for him. No one did the choreography for him. So let's allll move on, shall we? Thanks!"

Nah, but it's cute you are trying to control people. He cannot act, he cannot sing. He never should have been on a Broadway stage. (Oh, and mods before you delete this, it's my opinion in an opinion thread)). ThanksSoMuch. 

[ZacharyC2]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 4:58pm

Sutton Ross said: "hearthemsing22 said: "ENOUGH with harping on Cameron Dallas being cast in Mean Girls. Literally it's enough. There is absolutely no reason to keep hating on him when there are so many other things happening in the world that you should be focusing on. Seriously. Moveon.com. You say he didn't work hard?He got cast, yes. His audition process may have been different. But no one learned the lines for him. No one did the choreography for him. So let's allll move on, shall we? Thanks!"

Nah, but it's cute you are trying to control people. He cannot act, he cannot sing. He never should have been on a Broadway stage. (Oh, and mods before you delete this, it's my opinion in an opinion thread)). ThanksSoMuch."

I'm petty, so as the other person deleted, I second this. (It was a good comeback, too!)

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 5:57pm

jesse benet said: I also found Hamilton overhyped (and the praise for Groff weird, as he does littlebut stand there and sing the same song thrice) 

Jesse, who says "thrice"? Do you mean intrauterine?

 

[dianamorales]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 8:36pm

With all respect to the talent of all involved, Come From Away is one of the worst shows I've ever seen.

Starlight Express is campy pure entertainment and needs a revival ASAP.

The first time I heard Hamilton, I thought it sounded exactly like In The Heights, but ITH is better.

Hamilton is not groundbreaking, people just don't know enough musicals.

The "rise" of commercialist theatre (shows based on popular movies created just to sell tickets) is not a bad or new thing.

 

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 11:39pm

Dear Evan Hansen is a contrived liar reveal plot that follows the liar reveal formula

1. The main character lies
2. The main character sees benefits from the lie
3. The lie gets bigger than him
4. The truth comes out and everyone is mad
5. He gets redemption

It’s so predictable and cliche and just a big dumb YA book essentially.

And Evan does something really messed up and gross and I just don’t care about him at all. He’s really adding more trauma to a grieving family

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 11:39pm

Dear Evan Hansen is a contrived liar reveal plot that follows the liar reveal formula

1. The main character lies
2. The main character sees benefits from the lie
3. The lie gets bigger than him
4. The truth comes out and everyone is mad
5. He gets redemption

It’s so predictable and cliche and just a big dumb YA book essentially.

And Evan does something really messed up and gross and I just don’t care about him at all. He’s really adding more trauma to a grieving family

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 7/28/20 at 11:39pm

Dear Evan Hansen is a contrived liar reveal plot that follows the liar reveal formula

1. The main character lies
2. The main character sees benefits from the lie
3. The lie gets bigger than him
4. The truth comes out and everyone is mad
5. He gets redemption

It’s so predictable and cliche and just a big dumb YA book essentially.

And Evan does something really messed up and gross and I just don’t care about him at all. He’s really adding more trauma to a grieving family

[Jarethan]

Posted: 7/29/20 at 9:37am

skies said: "Yes, "Newsies" has impressive choreography, but the show was incredibly dated and tired from it's premiere. Book and score are by the numbers."

As a member of the audience, and presumably the minority, my biggest issue with Newsies was that every production number seemed exactly like the last one to me.  There was a sameness -- sort of choreographed gymnastics that wore thin.  

Updated On: 7/30/20 at 09:37 AM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/29/20 at 1:18pm

I honestly never thought about that when I watched DEH. I just saw a scared, anxious kid with serious mental health issues dealing with something that no kid should have to deal with. I did not realize there were tons of people that could not stand Evan and the anger surrounding the show. Really interesting. 

Updated On: 7/29/20 at 01:18 PM

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 7/29/20 at 2:59pm

Evan Hansen haters seem to ignore the fact that, during his first meeting with the Murphys, he says, "Connor didn't write this," more than once. In the next scene, Jared balks when Evan says that he's going to tell them the truth at dinner, and he pushes him to continue with his lie of omission. When he sees that it's bringing comfort to the family, especially Mrs. Murphy, then it starts to snowball, but it definitely wasn't malicious, and certainly not unforgivable. 

[Alex Kulak2]

Posted: 7/29/20 at 3:15pm

CT2NYC said: "Evan Hansen haters seem to ignore the fact that, during his first meeting with the Murphys, he says, "Connor didn't write this," more than once. In the next scene, Jared balks when Evan says that he's going to tell them the truth at dinner, and he pushes him to continue with his lie of omission. When he sees that it's bringing comfort to the family, especially Mrs. Murphy, then it starts to snowball, but it definitely wasn't malicious, and certainly not unforgivable."

Evan also has an anxiety disorder that makes it very difficult to talk to people, especially strangers (which is reinforced in the first scene when he goes hungry instead of ordering delivery). So there's almost no way he could have explained the situation that early on (because the situation by nature is messy and convoluted) without getting tongue-tied.

[imeldasturn]

Posted: 7/29/20 at 3:58pm

CT2NYC said: "Evan Hansen haters seem to ignore the fact that, during his first meeting with the Murphys, he says, "Connor didn't write this," more than once. In the next scene, Jared balks when Evan says that he's going to tell them the truth at dinner, and he pushes him to continue with his lie of omission. When he sees that it's bringing comfort to the family, especially Mrs. Murphy, then it starts to snowball, but it definitely wasn't malicious, and certainly not unforgivable."

Evan Hansen apologists seem to ignore the fact that in act two he keeps lying and starts making up more false evidences when he sees that his new popularity starts slipping away.