Unpopular theatre opinions- Page 4

[Lot666]

Posted: 6/15/20 at 10:48am

skies said: "joevitus said: "I may be the only person who agrees with you about Hello, Dolly!"

Wow, there are three of us."

Four.

 

[Lot666]

Posted: 6/15/20 at 10:54am

persephone88 said: "I was utterly underwhelmed by The Sound Inside. I thought the script was self indulgent, and I thought Mary Louise Parker was understated to the point of bland. The set and lighting was beautifully done, but that's about all I can say for it."

Same. I can usually find something in most shows to merit at least some of my time/money, but I left this one wishing I could get a refund. On multiple occasions, I found my gaze (and mind) wandering to various architectural elements of Studio 54 and imagining the goings-on there back in the day.

 

[pathman2]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 9:44am

I was disappointed when I saw Hamilton. Maybe it was overhyped, but I also thought it was overstaged to the point of excess. It’ll be interesting to see the taped version to see what they focus on and if that changes things for me. I also found the depiction of King George to be homophobic—“gayface” if you will. Especially since the writer comes from a community known for machismo and homophobia. I get that the role is comic relief, but I found it offensive.

[IHeartNY2]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 10:29am

pathman2 said: "I was disappointed when I saw Hamilton. Maybe it was overhyped, but I also thought it was overstaged to the point of excess."

Thank you.

 

Posted: 6/17/20 at 11:12am

I hate Beetlejuice and Matilda and I truly don’t understand the hype. I found them both to be terrible.

Mean Girls is overrated.

Moulin Rouge is more of a Vegas show than a Broadway show.

I don’t understand the hype regarding Barrett Wilbert Weed with both her fans and haters. She is decently talented, but man her fans and haters are obsessive.

Come From Away should have won over Dear Evan Hansen.

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 2:49pm

Theater "stans" are the worst thing to ever happen to theater. Their opinion is the only one that matters, they go out in droves to "cancel"  someone when they do something wrong, they have lame competitions,sort of like, "who's the biggest stan?" type of thing. They always have to be right about things, and God forbid you disagree with them. They get to tell people how to feel about things like bootlegs, because again, God forbid you disagree with them and tell people actually WORK for things they want, life isn't just free. Honestly. awful. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 6:26pm

They are the psycho children of Eve Harrington. 

[Joshua Rosenthal]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:16pm

Hamilton, Newsies, Heathers, Be More Chill, Dear Evan Hansen, The Phantom of the Opera, Amongst others that I cannot think of right now are overrated. They’re great and all but I’m just tired of hearing so much About them when there is so much stuff that deserves much more attention.

King Kong’s music, lyrics, and book are also incredible. I saw the show 4 times (2nd preview, a week after, January, and 2nd-to-last-performance) so I’ve seen the show change over time and I loved every version of it. I think it’s incredible in every way (though I like the finale that I saw in previews better but the final one is still great).

Frank Wildhorn’s stuff is great and I love it. Wonderland, especially, is the one I have listened to the most.

Michael John LaChiusa’s The Wild Party is very much underrated and is the better than Andrew Lippa’s, HOWEVER, I haven’t listened to Lippa’s as much as I have LaChiusa’s so take me saying that LaChiusa’s is better with a grain of salt. I’m only going based off of what I’ve heard and listened to of both. Both are still incredible. I just have had an easier time and more of an attraction towards LaChiusa’s however I plan on listening to Lippa’s in full so I can give an honest review based off of the Music since I’ve listened to all of LaChiusa’s

Tootsie is not transphobic. I didn’t even hear about that controversy until way after I watched the show.

[Joshua Rosenthal]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:16pm

Hamilton, Newsies, Heathers, Be More Chill, Dear Evan Hansen, The Phantom of the Opera, Amongst others that I cannot think of right now are overrated. They’re great and all but I’m just tired of hearing so much About them when there is so much stuff that deserves much more attention.

King Kong’s music, lyrics, and book are also incredible. I saw the show 4 times (2nd preview, a week after, January, and 2nd-to-last-performance) so I’ve seen the show change over time and I loved every version of it. I think it’s incredible in every way (though I like the finale that I saw in previews better but the final one is still great).

Frank Wildhorn’s stuff is great and I love it. Wonderland, especially, is the one I have listened to the most.

Michael John LaChiusa’s The Wild Party is very much underrated and is the better than Andrew Lippa’s, HOWEVER, I haven’t listened to Lippa’s as much as I have LaChiusa’s so take me saying that LaChiusa’s is better with a grain of salt. I’m only going based off of what I’ve heard and listened to of both. Both are still incredible. I just have had an easier time and more of an attraction towards LaChiusa’s however I plan on listening to Lippa’s in full so I can give an honest review based off of the Music since I’ve listened to all of LaChiusa’s

Tootsie is not transphobic. I didn’t even hear about that controversy until way after I watched the show.

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:21pm

Tootsie is full of dangerous transphobic tropes, and unless you're a trans person - in the end, it doesn't really matter if you agree or disagree, this isn't about "opinions." It just is. This board has a vocal majority that regularly equates the trans community's objections as a load of nonsense, which is sad because it boils down to their inability to truly align and listen to the needs of a marginalized community, and instead stand as protectors of systemic problems continually bolstered by an industry that doesn't know better, even when put to task. It's pretty black and white in that there's a right side to the argument and there's a wrong side to it. You either support transphobic nonsense or you don't, and like Trump repeating it's not so because he thinks/says/has come up with some learned bogus logic to make him think so (and thus the virus spreads amongst his base), so does the overall misunderstanding of the reasoning and rational behind why the show promotes dangerous transphobic ideas. The experts have told you it's problematic. Your blinders and faux-logic has painted you into a corner to think otherwise. 

Unpopular opinion: in the white american theater, one of the biggest obstacles is how to re-educate and call out its audience, and in NY - for major off-broadway houses and for the commercial theater, there are some awful, terrible practices learned by audience participants that do leave a stain. They are complicit, often the guardians of these inequities. They will shout from the rooftop that the demise of Tootsie is worth expressing sadness over first and foremost before vocally expressing dismay and sharing it with people over the death of a black trans woman. Their priorities, interests, even those who argue they keep the two things separate, feed into the problem. As Jeremy O. Harris (everyone's FAVORITE on here) wrote in Slave Play: you are the virus.

I expect much laughter, dismissal, and attempts to try and debate me. This is my, in advance, polite way of asking you to debate yourself. This is all I have to say on the matter. 

x

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:38pm

I don't care to debate anything with you. All I would like to know is, did you see Tootsie when it was on Broadway?

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:55pm

yup!

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 8:58pm

Thank you for supporting it! It's a great show and incredibly hilarious. It’s not about being transgender at all though, the character is parading as a woman to get ahead not because he thinks he is one, that’s all very clear. 

Have a great evening! 

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 9:02pm

I had a comp. It was easy to get. I was actually given 2. I only used mine and let the seat next to me sit empty. Anyone who reads what I wrote, takes a beat to try and understand it, wouldn't respond with the lazy, tired "it's not about trans people" auto-defense. You don't try, and it's obvious you never have. 

Cheers. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 9:27pm

You're right, I don't try to waste my time on someone who clearly is offended by every little thing. It's pointless.

Instead of complaining about a musical comedy that was designed as a pleasant, fun night at the theater, perhaps you should be out there protesting? Calling the Butler County Sheriff's Office and the Philadelphia Police Department regarding the deaths of Riah Milton and Dominique Fells? Hopefully, you are this very moment.

Just a thought.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dominiquefells

https://www.gofundme.com/f/sending-riah-home

 

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 9:43pm

Dear readers: I repeat, unpopular theater opinion. Snort, this fool trying this "see I knowz trans rights" stuff on me. 

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 9:56pm

snort. you all. 

[toottoot]

Posted: 6/17/20 at 10:42pm

aye, whoops. I've been replying without quoting who I'm responding to. my initial response about "I know trans rights" was directed at Sutton Ross. I'll be more careful moving forward.

onward. 

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 1:10am

When RENT landed on the cover of Time (or was it Newsweek?) as the future of the musical theater, I thought, "The future?"  I've seen this a dozen times before, from the Kumbaya-let's-all-hold-hands of Hair and Godspell and, less successfully, Salvation and Dude. Mostly what RENT did is make me look forward to what Larson would write next. But, alas...

[onmovies]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 6:13am

it's a common problem with all the theatres due to the largest movement in OTT platforms. I guess you may need to have a look at the onmovies app on your android phone and tablet.

https://www.onmovies.club/

[LarryK2]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 9:12am

I think Rent was the most overrated show of its generation. Some of the music was very good but the story line was a total hack job. In addition it was triumphed as being  "realistic" and "true to life." I actually lived in the east village during the times depicted in Rent (around the corner from Life Cafe) as an artist creating theater and none of the characters were realistic to the folks who actually lived during those times. It seemed as though Larson tried to drag out token stereotypes from as many categories as possible (gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans, black, Latino, drug addict, etc) and none of the characters were real people. However, to its credit, Rent single-handedly created an new generation of theater lovers who have morphed into some of this generation's most creative theatrical talents... so bravo to Rent for that.

Updated On: 6/19/20 at 09:12 AM

[soulmistin]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 2:19pm

Joey Ledonio said: "soulmistin said: "I don't like Hamilton. At all. I'm not a contrarian, Iwantedto like it. I like rap, I like hip hop, I'm Gen Z,I like Lin Manuel Miranda himself. I frankly just do not like the show or its music and don't find it particularly well made or impressive in any capacity except the fact that it made it as far as it did. To add insult to injury, I honestly think the choice of POC cast in addition to that story is ludicrous. I'm glad artists of color felt empowered playing those roles, but I think the casting was the antithesis of what the show is supposed to represent. I'm an LGBT person. I would not want to play somebody who systemically benefited from my oppression unless they were doing something important with it. Even though I didn't like the show itself, I would've been less miffed if the story was at least something that really celebrated people of color rather than acting like it was progressive because there's people of color in it."

White fragility is ridiculous. Soulmistin, this readsAmy Cooperish to me."

 

Joey Ledonio, I'd appreciate it if you could go one day without finding one of my comments and saying I have "white fragility" or I'm a white supremacist because I happen to dislike something a black person was involved in. Get a life.

[Alex Kulak2]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 4:01pm

The Light In The Piazza is the worst show I've ever seen.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 4:03pm

Whoa! Now THAT is an unpopular opinion! May I ask why? 

[DiscoCrows]

Posted: 6/18/20 at 4:24pm

Interesting take by Eva Noblezada... just gonna leave this here.

https://twitter.com/evanoblezada/status/1273494857231851520?s=21

I didn’t hate Reeve in HT, I thought he was fine. Not particularly Tony-nomination worthy considering who he was up against but... fine. I don’t know how “unpopular” of an opinion that is though, it seems like most people on these boards were far less fond of his performance than stan twitter was.