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#576

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 3:45pm

This production sounds like such a mess. First there was all the controversy surrounding Ramsar’s casting, then even more once they revealed they were cutting beloved parts of the show, and then all these injuries because of the rain. Someone has to cut out that element. It’d be one thing if it was just one incident, but it’s been more than that and they’ve still done nothing. I don’t think they’re even at the point where they could try to alter the rain anymore. Now that a principle actor (and it possibly one of the leads as well) had to drop out because of it, the rain should be completely cut. If it was just one actor who got injured, then they should’ve looked into altering it and making sure the same thing doesn’t happen to the other performers, but it’s happened so many times that I think it’s too late to just alter it, and if they don’t get this fixed then we could see even more people exiting the show.
This is giving me flashbacks to all the talk surrounding the last Carousel revival. A revival of a classic show that includes odd directorial choices, noticeable cuts, and Amar Ramsar. But at least Carousel wasn’t dealing with a bunch of their actors getting injured.

#577

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 4:37pm

Does anyone actually know whether either or both of the injuries are related to the rain, or is that just rampant speculation?

#578

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 4:38pm

They were both injured during the rumble, so yes.

#579

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 4:43pm

Dan6 said: "

Does anyone actually know whether either or both of the injuries are related to the rain, or is that just rampant speculation?"

Rampant speculation.

#580

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 4:46pm

LuPita2 said: "They were both injured during the rumble, so yes."

This is a perfect example of speculation.

#581

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:18pm

Except it's really not. Social media reports, people in the audience, posters on here, all have said they were injured in the rain, since BEFORE it starts raining (last 40 minutes of show) they were not injured, and then by the end of the show....injured. It's really just using common sense, not a really difficult concept.

#582

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:21pm

LuPita2 said: "Except it's really not. Social media reports, people in the audience, posters on here, all have said they were injured in the rain, since BEFORE it starts raining (last 40 minutes of show) they were not injured, and then by the end of the show....injured. It's really just using common sense, not a really difficult concept."

Because they were injured in a section where it is raining does not mean it was caused by the rain.

#583

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:22pm

LuPita2 said: "Except it's really not. Social media reports, people in the audience, posters on here, all have said they were injured in the rain, since BEFORE it starts raining (last 40 minutes of show) they were not injured, and then by the end of the show....injured. It's really just using common sense, not a really difficult concept."

Right -- cause, you know, social media and anonymous posters on a message board NEVER have their facts wrong (or just plain make sh*t up)! That's also not a very difficult concept, dear.

#584

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:22pm

LuPita2 said: "Except it's really not. Social media reports, people in the audience, posters on here, all have said they were injured in the rain, since BEFORE it starts raining (last 40 minutes of show) they were not injured, and then by the end of the show....injured. It's really just using common sense, not a really difficult concept."

Right -- cause, you know, social media and anonymous posters on a message board NEVER have their facts wrong (or just plain make sh*t up)! That's also not a very difficult concept, dear.

#585

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:24pm

If people don't think the rain has anything to do with TWO principals getting injured (one so badly he was removed from show and is never returning) during the first month of previews.....okay but it seems a little strange. A poster already informed us when they spoke to an actor at the stage door they said the water was cold and the guys over do it. But yes, we know you want rain in the show because "it looks so cool!", yet not realizing it may be affecting the actors. Who cares about them, right?

#586

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 5:47pm

When does Powell rejoin the show?

#587

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 7:59pm

I think it's worth noting that the posters in this thread claiming that the injuries happened during the the rain are also the posters who have been vehemently opposed to everything about this production from the beginning. Yet, I would be SHOCKED if any of them have actually seen it.

"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "

#588

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 8:20pm

Yes. Both occurred in the rain, but they also both occurred during choreography. Perhaps they should cut all the dance segments too? Or, you know just NOT “overdo it”, re-tech (as necessary) to make every aspect of the show safe (if there ARE any slip hazards) and continue to present the, much praised production that is currently on stage.

I work in Special Effects. Almost everything can be dangerous if not given the proper respect by everyone involved. Accidents are very regrettable but they can and do happen in any production. As stated above, the hysterical running commentary from the same handful of board members here is transparent and tiresome.

Updated On: 1/10/20 at 08:20 PM

#589

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 8:41pm

I agree with ukpupppetboy and bwayphreak234 - its outrageous the claims that some of you people make, clearly without ever having seen the show.

Threads like this represent the worst of this board - people masquerading nonstop like they have inside information.

#590

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 8:47pm

I just don’t fully understand why Ben Cook would be removed from the show... is he never going to heal? It’s very odd.

#591

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 9:00pm

Dan6 said: "

Does anyone actually know whether either or both of the injuries are related to the rain, or is that just rampant speculation?"

Definitely rampant speculation.

#592

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 9:07pm

Luminaire2 said: "I just don’t fully understand why Ben Cook would be removed from the show... is he never going to heal? It’s very odd."

I'd imagine that it could be something that takes a few weeks to heal and considering the show already pushed back opening once, they didn't want to do it again?

The person replacing him is in the show already as someone else so they already know the show. I don't know if Riff had a dedicated cover like the Tony did, but if they're "promoting" someone from within the company already I'd guess not.

#593

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 9:08pm

"This production sounds like such a mess...." per Hot Pants.

Yes it is. Show is awful. Needs serious editing. Rain wasn't a problem, but the manner in which it was produced was. Ivo...figure out whether you're doing a live musical or a movie. The hybrid was a joke. I saw Network 6 times & even that interaction of video/live wasn't as bad as this mess.

#594

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 9:55pm

Both injuries occurred during a scene in which it rains. Anything outside of that has been pure speculation.

#595

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 10:28pm

Luminaire2 said: "I just don’t fully understand why Ben Cook would be removed from the show... is he never going to heal? It’s very odd. "

Do we know what part of his body he injured? I’d assume his injury is bad enough to where he may need Surgery, which would require a lengthy recovery period. IIRC, I feel someone here mentioned it was his shoulder ? If he needs a rotator cuff surgery.... that recovery is no joke. I’ve had a contract ended as a dancer after I had my double rotator cuff surgery— The full recovery took MONTHS.

#596

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/10/20 at 11:59pm

Saw this tonight. I am also in the camp like so many others where I don’t exactly know how to feel.

The director kind of ignores the text if it gets in the way of his vision I think (i.e. Tony not being Polish, the NYC projections are not of the West Side, etc.)

It took me about 20 minutes to adjust to the new concepts.

It was a little like the half-live/half animated Little Mermaid that was just on tv.

I was never bored, but I don't know if that’s because there was always something to keep you interested (rain, projections, cameramen.) But this is the same reason I was unable to become fully emotionally engaged.

If you love WSS I think it is interesting to see. You may not necessarily like it, but you will be thinking about it...

#597

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/11/20 at 12:07am

BeNice said: "Saw this tonight. I am also in the camp like so many others where I don’t exactly know how to feel.

The director kind of ignores the text if it gets in the way of his vision I think (i.e. Tony not being Polish, the NYC projections are not of the West Side, etc.)

It took me about 20 minutes to adjust to the new concepts.

It was a little like the half-live/half animated Little Mermaid that was just on tv.

I was never bored, but I don't know if that’s because there was always something to keep you interested (rain, projections, cameramen.) But this is the same reason I was unable to become fully emotionally engaged.

If you love WSS I think it is interesting to see. You may not necessarily like it, but you will be thinking about it..."

Was Dharon Jones on as Riff? I thought he was great as Action

#598

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/11/20 at 12:25am

In my Playbill from the other night, Dharon isn’t even listed as a Riff understudy.

#599

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/11/20 at 12:30am

Updated On: 1/13/20 at 12:30 AM

#600

WSS 2019/20

Posted: 1/11/20 at 1:21am

bwayphreak234 said: "I think it's worth noting that the posters in this thread claiming that the injuries happened during the the rain are also the posters who have been vehemently opposed to everything about this production from the beginning. Yet, I would be SHOCKED if any of them have actually seen it."

This. And the glee masquerading as a pretense of concern is nauseating.

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