We're not allowed to talk about Ben in Marc's shows?- Page 6

[Kad]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:11pm

Great.

Ben Platt has been universally acclaimed for his performance, even by people who didn't like the show.

So if it was nepotism, then it worked out pretty well for everyone.

Except for you. But you are a delusional nobody, so who cares?

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:12pm

theaterguy11 said: "Surely it must have went through Pasek and Paul's heads that if they cast Marc Platt's son in their project, perhaps the great money man would finance future works of theirs and give them additional opportunities."

Except when he first auditioned for them, they said he was too young for the role and didn't cast him?!

[Nycat63]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:13pm

theaterguy11 said: "LYLS3637 said: "Oh so Marc Platt is a secret producer of PITCH PERFECT now too?

 

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No. But when you're one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood, less powerful producers do what they're asked to do. Not sure you understand how this industry works. It's all a very small circle and people do what they think will help them rise. Casting a powerful producers kid in your project could curry you favor in the future. Obviously. 

 

Guess what - a lot of industries outside of entertainment work much the same way. It's called life.  But you know what else "helps you rise" if you don't have rich/connected/famous parents?  Talent, hard work, treating others with respect, and not sitting around griping that other people's good fortune somehow holds you back from accomplishing your own goals.  There are many, many more roles on stage and screen than Benji in Pitch Perfect, Elder Cunningham and Evan Hansen.  So go get 'em!

 

[Kad]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:15pm

If you want to rant and rave about how the privileged get ahead in theatre, you should be directing your ire at Matthew Perry's terrible play featuring his own terrible performance downtown at the Lucille Lortel, a production that only occurred because he of his Friends fame.

Updated On: 6/28/17 at 05:15 PM

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:17pm

Nycat63 said: "theaterguy11 said: "LYLS3637 said: "Oh so Marc Platt is a secret producer of PITCH PERFECT now too?

 

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No. But when you're one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood, less powerful producers do what they're asked to do. Not sure you understand how this industry works. It's all a very small circle and people do what they think will help them rise. Casting a powerful producers kid in your project could curry you favor in the future. Obviously. 

 

Guess what - a lot of industries outside of entertainment work much the same way. It's called life.  But you know what else "helps you rise" if you don't have rich/connected/famous parents?  Talent, hard work, treating others with respect, and not sitting around griping that other people's good fortune somehow holds you back from accomplishing your own goals.  There are many, many more roles on stage and screen than Benji in Pitch Perfect, Elder Cunningham and Evan Hansen.  So go get 'em!

 

 

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I have no idea why you all are trying to make this about *me*

This has nothing to do with me. Or any of you. Or any other actors. 

 

It's simply a remarkable nepotism scheme. From his casting, to his reviews, to the bull**** PR features, to the bought Tony. And it's crazy that its not being discussed more due to its remarkable scope. 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:26pm

haterobics said: "theaterguy11 said: "Surely it must have went through Pasek and Paul's heads that if they cast Marc Platt's son in their project, perhaps the great money man would finance future works of theirs and give them additional opportunities."

Except when he first auditioned for them, they said he was too young for the role and didn't cast him?!"

WRONG.  Go back and read the article --- they were talking about his audition for DOGFIGHT and said he was too young at the time for that. 

Oh, and theaterguy11 --- please go back under your bridge.

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:30pm

JSquared2 said: "WRONG.  Go back and read the article --- they were talking about his audition for DOGFIGHT and said he was too young at the time for that."

I'm aware, and I never said it was for DEH. But if the thesis here is that he is only being hired because of his father and the hope of future favors, then seems strange to pass him over for a smaller role in a smaller Off-Broadway show and wait to give him the lead in a Broadway-bound show. 

Then again, it's hard to try and make sense out of all this conspiracy theory nonsense.

[ggersten]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:31pm

theaterguy11 said: "It's simply a remarkable nepotism scheme. From his casting, to his reviews, to the bull**** PR features, to the bought Tony. And it's crazy that its not being discussed more due to its remarkable scope. "

Wow. I had no idea so many hundreds of people were involved.  Are you sure Marc Platt wasn't involved in the Kennedy Assassination?  

How did Marc Platt ever manage to pull this off with his extensive Broadway producing credits - I mean, 4 shows!  And none since 2008.  He certainly could have taught Jerry Zaks and Hal Prince a thing or two.  

But, congratulations to theaterguy11 for figuring it all out!  I anxiously await the book setting forth the details of this "remarkable" scheme. I guess it started while Pasek and Paul were students at Michigan?  Did they perhaps see young Ben in Mame and decide that someday when the acting thing they were at Michigan for wasn't going to to work out, that they would write a show for that kid, because his Dad was one of the producers of Wicked - which despite Marc Platt's apparently incredible powers and money - didn't win the Tony Award for Best Musical?  Is that when Platt went to Ann Arbor and spoke to Pasek and Paul and said "I want you someday to write a show for my kid. I'll secretly produce it"    

[ursusfidelis]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:31pm

theaterguy11 said: "No. But when you're one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood, less powerful producers do what they're asked to do. Not sure you understand how this industry works. It's all a very small circle and people do what they think will help them rise. Casting a powerful producers kid in your project could curry you favor in the future. Obviously."

You really are an insufferable troll, but I'll spare a few moments to dive into this pile of stink. Pitch Perfect was a project of Elizabeth Banks, her husband Max Handelman, and Paul Brooks, of Gold Circle Films. There were plenty of people that were taking a chance here, on a small indie film:

Gold Circle Films primarily deals in horror/thriller and romance films, Jason Moore, the director, had not directed any full-length films in Hollywood, and Kay Cannon, the screenwriter, was successful in writing for 30 Rock, but was making her first foray into film screenwriting as well.

They took a chance and made relatively small budget film ($17 million, by most estimates) and filled in along the edges with actors with musical backgrounds, including Skylar Astin, Anna Camp, Ben Platt, and finally, securing Anna Kendrick, who already had some recognition for turn in "Up in the Air". Pitch Perfect took on a life of its own through positive word-of-mouth reviews, and was a surprise hit. 

If this was meant to be textbook nepotism, as you're suggesting, wouldn't they have chosen a more prominent project?  And after the success of the film brought about a sequel, wouldn't they have used that to springboard into a film career by shoe-horning him into every role possible?  Instead, Ben Platt originated a role in a new musical, going from the Arena Stage, to the glitz and glamour of... the Tony Kiser Theater, a 298-seat Off-Broadway theater, before word-of-mouth and rave reviews got the show to Broadway.

It is entirely possible for someone to have a child, have their work and background serve as an inspiration for that child to pursue a dream, and for them to have success. If a family name or connection, can get you a job, but it isn't going to make critics and audiences alike sing your praises. And since he hasn't shied away from who has father is, or the inspiration that he provided, he's stacked the deck against himself and still come out as the breakout star of this past season.

You seem to confuse conjecture with actual facts.

[Cat Guy]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:32pm

theaterguy11 said: "I have no idea why you all are trying to make this about *me*
 

"Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." (Judge Judy)

Updated On: 6/28/17 at 05:32 PM

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:33pm

Why is anyone still feeding this troll? Quit responding and let the ridiculousness of this thread die.

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:42pm

There is way more evidence of Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards than the President colluding with Russia and that's on CNN nonstop!

This should be the considered the biggest Broadway scandal in a generation- maybe ever! 

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:47pm

theaterguy11 said: "There is way more evidence of Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards than the President colluding with Russia and that's on CNN nonstop!"

If both are proven true, one of them is a crime, though, and one isn't.

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:48pm

haterobics said: "theaterguy11 said: "There is way more evidence of Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards than the President colluding with Russia and that's on CNN nonstop!"

If both are proven true, one of them is a crime, though, and one isn't.

 

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Neither would be a crime.

unless you consider bad taste a crime. In any event, this Platt matter should be the talk of the town on Playbill and BWW

[Nycat63]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:49pm

theaterguy11 said: "There is way more evidence of Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards than the President colluding with Russia and that's on CNN nonstop!

This should be the considered the biggest Broadway scandal in a generation- maybe ever! 

 

Ok at first I thought the OP was being serious about this but this has to be a joke, right?  He can't be serious?

 

[ursusfidelis]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:52pm

It's also worth noting that the OP just posted the first message, and nothing since. They're probably just sitting, cackling maniacally at the madness they created with such a short post.

[mar6411]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:54pm

theaterguy11 said: "There is way more evidence of Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards than the President colluding with Russia and that's on CNN nonstop!

This should be the considered the biggest Broadway scandal in a generation- maybe ever! 

There is no evidence of "Marc Platt collusion with Dear Evan Hansen and the Tony Awards."  

So . . . no scandal.  Just a weirdly delusional poster looking for attention - or making a joke and laughing.

This thread is wonderful - hilarious.  

 

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:54pm

theaterguy11 said: "Neither would be a crime."

Theaterguy11: Wrong about Ben Platt. Wrong about Russia, heh.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/sorry-fox-news-legal-experts-say-trump-collusion-with-russia-could-be-a-crime/

[mar6411]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:56pm

ursusfidelis said: "It's also worth noting that the OP just posted the first message, and nothing since. They're probably just sitting, cackling maniacally at the madness they created with such a short post.

The OP was active in the previous thread that was deleted - and in support of the nutcase.  Purposely created thread.  But hopefully they are cackling maniacally at the hilarity.

 

[Nycat63]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:58pm

ursusfidelis said: "It's also worth noting that the OP just posted the first message, and nothing since. They're probably just sitting, cackling maniacally at the madness they created with such a short post.

 

My bad, meant theaterguy11 rather than OP.  Theaterguy11 was the OP of the thread that was deleted (essentially spouting the same Platt conspiracy theory he is here).

 

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 5:58pm

ursusfidelis said: "It's also worth noting that the OP just posted the first message, and nothing since. They're probably just sitting, cackling maniacally at the madness they created with such a short post.

 

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haha right? I think a lot of people have forgotten that I didn't start this one. I started another similar one that the Mods deleted (perhaps theyre in the Platt Matter?) for no apparent reason. That thread was supposed to be about the topic of nepotism in general, not nessisarily only about Platt.  

Perhaps the Mods and OP did everyone a favor because this one is much more fun.

Updated On: 6/28/17 at 05:58 PM

[gypsy101]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 6:13pm

bro you are delusional. even if his producer father helped him get roles allegedly...have you heard him sing?? that spectacular voice isn't the product of nepotism. you can't buy a singing voice like the one Ben Platt has.

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 6:19pm

gypsy101 said: "bro you are delusional. even if his producer father helped him get roles allegedly...have you heard him sing?? that spectacular voice isn't the product of nepotism. you can't buy a singing voice like the one Ben Platt has.

 

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I could not disagree more. The only reason I've been looking into the Platt matter is that I find him extraordinarily mediocre to horrid. One of my least favorite performers I have ever seen in any medium. I find the accolades he's received confusing. There simply must be more to the story. If I thought he was talented I wouldn't care that much...although a father buying his kid a Tony is a pretty big scandal no? 

 

I had another thought- perhaps Marc Platt was involved in the decision for Sunday In The Park to withdraw from consideration. I'd like to think Jake G would have won the Tony had he been eligible for nomination.

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 6:21pm

theaterguy11 said: "I had another thought"

Given their shallow depth, they should seemingly come quite often.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/28/17 at 6:26pm

theaterguy11 said: "I could not disagree more. The only reason I've been looking into the Platt matter is that I find him extraordinarily mediocre to horrid. One of my least favorite performers I have ever seen in any medium. I find the accolades he's received confusing. There simply must be more to the story. I"

The story that seems to have more behind it is yours. I know we all need hobbies, but man, lay off and work on your own craft rather than concern-trolling and being a hot mess about Ben Platt.