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what do you think of show groupies???
FrancisGumm
Broadway Star Joined: 2/8/04
#25re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 6:25pmhaha BSoBW2. totally agree with you! though that would result in a massacre at the gershwin stage door and you wouldnt want that-then the parents would get off the LIRR with torches or something!
"Beating AIDS and extreme, stupid poverty, this is our moon shot. This is our civil rights struggle, our anti-apartheid movement. This is what the history books will remember our generation for--or blame us for, if we fail."-Bono
greenegirl87
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/11/05
#26re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 6:35pmI think what you consider "groupies" are the people that have the passion that keeps the theatre industry going.
"But now the air is filled with confusion. We replace care with illusion."
#27re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 9:00pm
" read one post where the person was like... "and *insert actor* looked right at me and smiled during Seasons of Love while i was clapping"
Seriously, big deal. If everyone on this board got like that every time they made eye contact with a performer during a show, this board would be a goner. And if they're just saying it because it made them happy, what's the problem? Like WRQ said, if it's because of them screaming out the performer's name, then that's somethign different.
And the whole thing is a bit of a generalization. There are perfectly decorous and respectful RENTheads, and believe it or not, Wickedheads (or whatever you call 'em). To say that the fans are obnoxious pree-teen girls is largely not true. And, if they annoy you that badly, ignore them.
The choice may have been mistaken, The choosing was not... "Every day has the potential to be the greatest day of your life." - Lin-Manuel Miranda
#28re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 9:37pmI think we all agree that most of the fans who belong to a specific 'group' (to use a term here) are pleasant and simply supportive and that's good for them and the show also. However, there are always those few who are loud, too assertive, and pretty obnoxious. I see it happening all the time at theatres where I've worked. The few who are the loudest, and pride themselves on knowing everyone's name who is connected to the show and the theatre, may not know it but all those people connected to the show and theatre don't think of that person in a good light. Mostly they roll their eyes at the mention of them. But-those 'groupies' may not even care, so it's all good for them.
<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES
cubbiegirl
Stand-by Joined: 11/15/05
#29re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 11:00pm
The only people who bug me are the ones who have no boundaries and no perception of reality. Sure, love Wicked. Love Rent. See the show every night if you want. Go to the stage door every night if it makes you happy.
But if Idina returns a signed picture to you, do not go on messageboards and drop into the conversation "And Idina is my really good friend"
Because she's not.
Jim Caruso: You know, you are doing Wicked.
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
#30re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 11:08pmYou bring up a good point there. There is that misconception on the part of some groupies that the cast members are 'their friends' simply because they are warm and friendly to them when they come out of the stage door. The actors have no reason to be rude to them. After all, these fans are supporting the show-monetarily as well as spiritually and some actors don't mind taking the time out to show their appreciation. But that's where it ends for them. Some fans mistake this for true friendship.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#31re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/23/05 at 11:55pm
maybe its cuz I was a bigger metalhead before I got into broadway, but 'groupie' doesnt bother me at all. hmmm. ive been called worse.
and the matt quote in my sig is there for a reason :)
Updated On: 12/23/05 at 11:55 PM
#32re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 12:33am
"Groupies are sluts, they sleep with the band!"
Rentheads scream during the show like it's a rock concert because that's exactly what Jonathan Larson said he wanted the show to be like. 
And the amount of improperly used ellipses in this thread makes me sad.
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 12/24/05 at 12:33 AM
Wanting life but never knowing how
#33re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 12:41am
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel groupies are some of the loveliest groupies around.
...The end by Blucat500.
So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.~Office Space
wickedrentq
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/6/04
#34re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 1:15am
CJR..or anyone else who may know...
Hi Kettle, this is Monica, you're black...
I know Phoebe said this and I can see the scene in my head but it's driving me crazy, what Friends episode was the line from?
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#35re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 1:28am
Where did the topic of being friends come into this? You are only a friend of a cast member if you actually hang out with them at venues outside of the theater and establish more interpersonal repoire. If you have time to devote to that and work, sleep, and have other hobbies, more power to you. Personally, despite knowing alot of people involved in DRS, I would never, ever, say anyone of them was my friend (and that includes Norbert) unless I honestly spent more time with them (and with hectic schedules like I have, who can?). I like my 'friend of the show' dubbing. Thats what I am. I see, listen to, and work very hard to promote DRS. Passionate supporter! Who needs sex! (the hottest actresses are ALWAYS taken anyway)
Back to topic, what is the term for DRS fans? Just Gregheads or "The Scoundrels"?
Celestial Entropy
Understudy Joined: 8/10/05
#36re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 2:30am
The term I use for people that go overboard in regards of their favorite show, is "rabid fans". And in what I mean by overboard: they stalk the stage door over and over and over and over... they scream like banshee's when they spot the actors... they scream like nuts when their favorite actor takes the stage, yelling out the actors name, making it unpleasant for those sitting around them... and they have the inability to understand that the show they obsess over will have faults and that it isn't the end-all be-all to theatre... and they refuse to understand that the actors sometimes give poor performances. I can bet you, if I posted something about Shoshana not giving a good performance on the night I saw Wicked, there would be 20 or 30 replies telling me I am mean and that Shoshana can do no wrong because she is great great great.
Rabid fans come across as having lost touch with reality... IMO.
I've come this far with the truth of the heart. Deep down inside I think we're all the same. Try not to judge and never shame... I do believe people are good... they just want hope and respect... to be understood ~Melissa Etheridge
#37re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 5:11am
I'll never forget the first time I went to see Wicked, I was waiting outside in the cancellation line, and this girl proceded to go through her wicked playbill with her friend and do the scenes and musical numbers, all talentless and at full volume... It was dreadful, thank god for my iPod.
On the groupie subject, I think we're all a little guilty, but I draw the line at calling actors my friends. Sure, I've done the stage door thing, but that doesn't make someone your friend. That's like me talking about all my "good friends" at Starbucks... Just cause they know what I drink doesn't make them my friends... Same thing with actors, just cause they know your name doesn't mean they give a crap about you or your webpages.
If Lincoln were alive today, do you think he'd be pleased with his tunnel?
#38re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 10:27amThe friendship issue is a problem with some groupies I've known. They've been hurt when their feelings weren't returned by cast members. One person I know completely stopped talking to an actor because she expected him to be a true friend. (sex has nothing to do with this, I don't know where that came from). Notes were written by this person to other members of the production complaining about the actor. To make a long story short it turned into a big issue. Lots of things like this happen at theatres, although I'm sure fans of this nature are in a small minority. The show/play becomes the fan's entire life.
<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES
cubbiegirl
Stand-by Joined: 11/15/05
#39re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:25am
I brought up the friend thing. I am sure that people actually do become friends with actors that they meet at a stage door or whatever. To me, a friend means that they would call you, or hang out with you. They are your friend removed from the show. They are not your friend if you only see them when you get their autograph.
I have seen a few instances in the past week where people have said that they are friends with a Broadway performer. How do they know? Because they returned a signed playbill in the mail. Because they recognize them at the stage door. Not friend. That's a fan. But some people seriously don't get it. They think that if you go to the stage door 45 times, then the performer feels the same way about you that you do about them. I think Anthony Rapp talked about that in a post one time. People for whatever reason become emotionally involved with an actor and/or the actor's character in the show and then they believe that their relationship with that actor is a friendship. To me, it's actually a very interesting psychological idea. That we become so enamored by a performer that we start to feel this relationship with them that doesn't really exist. And if you asked the performer, "Hey, are you friends with Bob?" they would say, "The dude at the stage door? No, he's cool, but we're not friends"
Anyway, like I said, that is the only type of "groupie" that bothers me, but I still find it interesting. And I do think that sometimes friendships do develop from fanships. But not too often.
Jim Caruso: You know, you are doing Wicked.
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
Stephanie J Block: I am!
Jim: Is anyone coming to that old thing?
#40re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:34am
1. "i have an audio in which a guy screams Neil Patrick Harris' name DURING the song..."
Why do you have an audio bootleg in the first place?
2. What right do you have to generalize all 'groupies' into one category, especially if you later claim to be one yourself?
3. If it honestly bothers you that much... than either don't go and watch the show, or suck it up and ignore them.
4. I agree, being a friend is something more than a warm welcome at the stage door. If you never even talk about anything more than that star's credits & such, you are definitely still just a fan.
5. There are bad and good 'groupies' in every fan base. EVERY SINGLE ONE, I can guarantee it.
6. Perhaps people get annoyed of your Star Wars geekiness as you get annoyed of a RENThead's devotion to RENT. Maybe you even dressed up for the movie opening... who knows?
NIL MAGNUM NISI BONUM "No greatness without goodness."
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#41re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:37amCubbie-right on!
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insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#42re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 11:48am
If you have seen a show so many times that you're wondering if you're a groupie, than you are.
Groupies are invariably annoying. I can't stand to hear "I went to see Chitty for my eleventh time and Raul was OUT!! Can you believe that? I've only seen him ten times in this show, I need my fix!"
Donate your obscene amounts of money to the Red Cross or something. You just don't need that.
Cabchic
Leading Actor Joined: 8/1/03
#43re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 12:17pm
For WickedrentQ, that line in Friends is from the one with the poker..one of my favorite lines
RACHEL: Can you believe what a jerk Ross was being?
MONICA: Yeah, I know. He can get really competitive.
PHOEBE: Ha. Ha, ha.
MONICA: What?
PHOEBE: Oh, hello, kettle? This is Monica. You're black.
MONICA: Please! I am not as bad as Ross.
RACHEL: Oh, I beg to differ. The Pictionary incident?
MONICA: That was not an incident! I - I was gesturing, a-and the plate slipped out of my hand
#44re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 12:55pm
Great response Cubbie. It is probably easier to become friends with rock stars than with Broadway actors.
I often wonder what actors think of show fans. I think most enjoy the dedicated fans. I mean, they are there to celebrate you and your work. For most, it must be pyschologically gratifying. If I was a star, I would always take the time to appreciate my fans because they in turn appreciate me. It should be a respectful relationship (not friendship, relationship). I think the sane ones who come to the stage door maybe once or twice very two weeks or so are appreciated by the actors. I wonder if they cringe when they see the same people 3-4 times a week.
#45re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 1:04pmLove the groupies but glad I'm not one - no diss, I really do love them. Happy Hols to ALL groupies!
"It is bad enough that people are dying of AIDS, but no one should die of ignorance." -
Elizabeth Taylor
#46re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 2:27pmBetter to be a theatre groupie than any other kind of groupie, I guess.
BSoBW2
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/8/04
#47re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 2:33pmHeh, Cabchic - I did a report on FRIENDS and showed that episode in class (well, only the first poker game between all 6).
#48re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 3:20pm
"I wonder if they cringe when they see the same people 3-4 times a week."
Yep, and can you imagine how they feel seeing the same group almost every show? They put on a smiley face and do their thing but on occasion they sneak out another exit to avoid it. I'm speaking from theater experience and not out of the top of my head. I have no agenda, just stating facts. I couldn't care less if there are groupies or not. It doesn't impact my life in any way. If the groupies are getting joy out of it, and aren't experiencing any hurt feelings, then I say go for it.
<-----I'M TOTES ROLLING MY EYES
#49re: what do you think of show groupies???
Posted: 12/24/05 at 3:24pmI would honestly like to know how performers feel who see the same people over and over again. But the problem with smiling and putting on a show is that it eggs these people on.. and they don't see it from their perspective. THey just think their "idol" loves them and is being so nice to them and wants them to keep coming back. And until proven otherwise they won't stop going back...
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