Broadway Flash said: "Saw this tonight. What is the purpose of this show? Is it to act as a cautionary tale? I found it to be a little preachy at times. I didn’t think it was as dark as people were saying. It feels like a less good staging of next to normal. Kelli’s scene when she’s vacuuming was the standout for me, and gave a fantastic performance. I always have mixed feeling about Adam guettel. He’s certainly no Richard Rodgers to say the least. I like much of the score though. Nobody can accuse this musical of dragging that’s for sure. But it felt like it was moving too fast at times. I thought they could have sat in some of those moments longer. Have we given up on 2 act musicals?"
Yeah, I had issues with the physical production, but as great as the writing is, I agree the last 30 become too much a morality or religious play: "Will this character find Jesus or go to hell?" And that's not an interesting question, frankly, if you aren't the character who chose Jesus.
Matt Rogers said: "I guess they won’t be selling specialty cocktails at this one."
This may actually be a major reason why they've kept it to one act. So much of the reason to have an intermission is the bar business. Who's going to want to order a drink halfway through this show?
BJR said: "Broadway Flash said: "Saw this tonight. What is the purpose of this show? Is it to act as a cautionary tale? I found it to be a little preachy at times. I didn’t think it was as dark as people were saying. It feels like a less good staging of next to normal. Kelli’s scene when she’s vacuuming was the standout for me, and gave a fantastic performance. I always have mixed feeling about Adam guettel. He’s certainly no Richard Rodgers to say the least. I like much of the score though. Nobody can accuse this musical of dragging that’s for sure. But it felt like it was moving too fast at times. I thought they could have sat in some of those moments longer. Have we given up on 2 act musicals?"
Yeah, I had issues with the physical production, but as great as the writing is, I agree the last 30 become too much a morality or religious play: "Will this character find Jesus or go to hell?" And that's not an interesting question, frankly, if you aren't the character who chose Jesus."
I've always thought it's a cautionary tale that you can drag someone who loves you down the drain with you. The movie is harrowing in that way.
Totally hear that. But dramatically I feel like it stalls. You are on his side, he's given so much nuance and wisdom and she looks crazy and irrational. For me I was 20 minutes ahead of it. So, it played like a morality tale by the end. And not one I disagree with! But all the same, heavy handed.
In short, I don't feel like it brought me closer to addiction, but just reminded me addiction is harmful to everyone. Which is less interesting imho
I doubt any serious book work is happening in previews, since this is a limited run transfer. But it really could be a much stronger, clearer show with very little added. I like it, but that's always frustrating.
Wished this ended on the scene where they sneak the booze into bed, making their drinking addiction almost like a sexual fetish for the two of them. Would've been such a dark, interesting note to end on. Mutually assured destruction.
Kelli and Brian are incredible in this show. Great performances from them. They try their best with the material they've been given. The songs don't seem to really do anything or go anywhere although they *sound* kind of pretty. Some of the worst staging I've seen in a Broadway musical in a really long time. In fact, the physical production is terrible all around. Also, what's the point of having an ensemble that doesn't do anything at all. At least work in some background singing for them or something.
Preparing to see the show this week, I've continued to explore the score. Ambitious, uncompromising in its refusal to resort to sentiment, and by any definition, challenging. "Forgiveness" is the obvious standout, both iterations gorgeous and heartrending. But the show has at least one exquisite melody, "As the Water Loves the Stone." To those who have seen the show: does it land as exquisitely as it does on the album? Its ravishing melody and the instrumentation, oddly enough, remind me of "Answer Me" in The Band's Visit. But much of the score has such uniquely evocative sound - like that strange I Want-eque rumination, "There Go I" that also ends the story - it already haunts me. The imagery is so eccentric and specific. O'Hara just burrows deeply into the number in the recording.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
I posted my thoughts on my youtube channel, hopefully I won't get death threats this time!
My youtube channel is niclesnyc by the way in case anyone wants to check it out.
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
Saw the show today and boy was I not expecting it to be as good as it actually was! My god! Kelli O’Hara is a freaking musical goddess! Her and Brian have really outdone themselves with this piece! I was in tears by the end of the show and this score is very powerful! Definitely think this show is an underrated contender for Best Musical and Best Score! I think I also see Tony nods for O’Hara and James! With all that praise being said, like someone else mentioned on this thread, the rest of the cast are definitely underused. It’s almost if this show could’ve been written as a three-person musical. Other than that, I thought this was an excellent piece of theatre right here!
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
I don’t get the complaints about the supporting cast being underused. In my opinion, they’re used exactly the right amount to tell the story being told, and that keeps the show tight.
A lot of the initial reports I’ve been hearing about this one seem to echo the raves of Kimberly Akimbo throughout the preview process, which makes me believe this is the show to beat for best musical. It is certainly possible for a closed show to take home top honors!
TaffyDavenport said: "I don’t get the complaints about the supporting cast being underused. In my opinion, they’re used exactly the right amount to tell the story being told, and that keeps the show tight."
I can’t remember from off Broadway. Did Sharon Brown even get a song?
smidge said: "TaffyDavenport said: "I don’t get the complaints about the supporting cast being underused. In my opinion, they’re used exactly the right amount to tell the story being told, and that keeps the show tight."
I can’t remember from off Broadway. Did Sharon Brown even get a song?"
No, and since she plays very minor characters, there's no reason for her to have one.
I felt like there should have been more of an inditement of him. The only thing we get is the dad yelling at him, but I wanted something from her. Does he even apologize? I know there were of number of scenes of them together at the end, did he say this was my fault?
ultimately i couldn't get past the lack of a good story to drive the piece--its a slow motion train wreck, rendered beautifully but, as one might expect, sloooowly-- but i was still very impressed with the overall production, and particularly the leads.
its a beautiful and well developed set, which the show doesnt need but was pleasant nonetheless. similarly, the show has a 6 person ensemble that feels totally unnecessary--i dont think any of them sing? did i miss it? so much movement in the background and prop-moving but it started to distract me since the show essentially has only 5 characters, and only 3 that are explored in any way. Yes, it seems a crime that Sharon Catherine Brown and Byron Jennings are given so little to do. There's a moment where I thought Brown might be allowed a moment but alas. Back to our two stars.
Stars they are. James is great--his voice!-- but this is O'Hara's show. WHAT A PERFORMANCE. From her bright perkiness to start, to her chaotic drunken banter, to her total breakdown (the scene in the hotel was simply perfect, start to finish, sheer perfection in staging, acting, etc). i could not imagine a better-rendered performance if i tried. she is worth the price of admission.
im not familiar with the source material, and assuming this was faithful to its story, it feels unfair to complain. the tale told was told well. but its depressing, and not funny/insightful enough to redeem itself, since thats really all it was. yes O'hara made her character heartbreaking, but the show doesnt really give us ANY insight into what makes Kiersten drink, it doesnt explore her demons or motivations in any meaningful way, and that stacked against her role as a mother- it was just tragic and not much more (while sort of letting her husband off the hook, though James' performance fills in that gap quite a bit). It reminded me of a much less interesting, much duller Next to Normal in many ways.
Who is the perceived frontrunner for Best Actor and Actress in a Musical at this point, however early? Is it Redmayne and Rankin for Cabaret? Does O'Hara have any shot at winning her second for this?
I think the score is exquisite. And I think the material is overall strong. Some of you are acting as if it is weak, which it is not. I also like how poetic and bizarre the show is. Her scatting while vacuuming drunk into the operatic Underdeath. Perfection!
Broadway Flash said: "I think the score is exquisite. And I think the material is overall strong. Some of you are acting as if it is weak, which it is not. I also like how poetic and bizarre the show is. Her scatting while vacuuming drunk into the operatic Underdeath. Perfection!"
Broadway Flash: we agree. I'm not seeing the show until Wednesday, but I can't shake its power, revisiting the numbers in performance sequence on Spotify. By the third full listen, I was completely sold on the score as an exquisite piece of world building. It has that unique quality of nailing both time and place and tone of the prism on the familiar (to Boomers perhaps) story. No, this is not sentiment-driven (like Mancini, whose iconic theme some people seem to miss; so wrong for this telling) This is a new set of eyes and ears on these characters, and the result is a jarring, scary point of access. Discordant, open-ended, slivers of imagery-driven. Yet the palette shifts, and we we land on "As Water Loves the Stone," a small, lush romantic moment in the middle, Guettel isn't afraid to give us a dark melody to hold onto, as Joe holds on. But the score's cumulative impact feels a big part of its success: by the end, that haunting reprise of "There I Go," we've been immersed in these lives.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
PipingHotPiccolo said: "Yes, it seems a crime that Sharon Catherine Brown and Byron Jennings are given so little to do."
I don't agree with this. Writers should add material only if it furthers the story or otherwise contributes to the meaning of the show, not to give specific performers more to do. I do think there's room in the show for both Kirsten's father and Joe's sponsor to have a song, but I understand why the creators wanted to keep the score so tight.