smidge said: "Twitter is essentially the same thing as goofing around with your friends. You're not paying to read her tweets so she doesn't really need to bring her A game."
That's true, but, I mean, there are people on Twitter, who aren't professional comedians or writers, who are hilarious and extremely witty. And the OP did ask for our thoughts, so that was mine. I don't know, it just rubbed me the wrong way because she was basically doing insult comedy, but doing it badly. I'd feel the same way if a friend of mine wrote those tweets. So, actually, no, it's not the same as goofing with your friends, because you actually have to sit down and plan the tweet. You're making a deliberate decision to send it out into the world, so you should at least try to bring your A game, in my opinion.
Tag said: "A classic case of not knowing your audience."
This sums it up perfectly.
Had she done this at the Tonys, most attendees and viewers (as we make up for a small percentage of the population) might have found it either hilarious, Jackie being Jackie, or would have just rolled their eyes even if they didn't find it funny. Her tweets, in particular, never would have garnered national or media attention. Her reaction on screen was one thing (funny - I think most people would have chalked that up to her being a comedic actress and not actually a sore loser who was being serious), but the tweets sent it quite a bit over the top. Whether we find them funny or not, IMHO that was neither the event nor the target audience for those tweets.
hork said: "smidge said: "Twitter is essentially the same thing as goofing around with your friends. You're not paying to read her tweets so she doesn't really need to bring her A game."
That's true, but, I mean, there are people on Twitter, who aren't professional comedians or writers, who are hilarious and extremely witty. And the OP did ask for our thoughts, so that was mine. I don't know, it just rubbed me the wrong way because she was basically doing insult comedy, but doing it badly. I'd feel the same way if a friend of mine wrote those tweets. So, actually, no, it's not the same as goofing with your friends, because you actually have to sit down and plan the tweet. You're making a deliberate decision to send it out into the world, so you should at least try to bring your A game, in my opinion."
I can't wait to come back and read this thread in about 2 hours.....
I seem to be in the minority here, but I've grown weary of Jackie Hoffman over the years. She's essentially been giving the same performance since Hairspray and it, more often than not, doesn't work for me. Her comedic philopsy being louder is funnier.
I often feel what's presented as schtick is actually more encompassing of her true self. She occasionally appears to have contempt for the audience attending, like the night she failed to garner a single laugh during On the Town and grew increasingly more spiteful throughout the performance, aggressively induldging herself during her time on stage. I don't find a lot of joy in her performances.
I understand that what she's doing is a bit, but I don't think it's funny or clever.
When you do a google search right now for "Laura Dern," the first several results are all about Jackie Hoffman. She won without actually winning. She knows what she's doing.
I think her role on Feud is the first time I've seen her completely disappear into a character. It's a really great performance. She definetly has it in her to be a solid performer not just playing a version of herself. I think she is more suited for screen and standup/cabaret work. I think she gets bored easily in a Broadway show, and that's when the schtick comes in. Though her improves when I saw Addams Family and On the Town were hysterical. I still vividly remember her trying to exit the stage in On the Town and trying to maneuver around the mirrors in the side.
As for thr Dern jokes, she was again, making jokes that are clearly things Dern would never do. It's not like she was making a child porn ring joke about a man, and starting unnecessary rumors that will haunt them for their career. Nobody think Dern is running a child porn ring or a Nazi. And if they do, they're just stupid. Our society has become too PC for its own good. Hoffman clearly had a twinkle in her eye with her reaction to losing. If anyone thought she was seriously upset that ridiculous. She knew she was going to lose and people are now talking about her. I was also surprised she got such a large round of applause when her named was called. I think all this is just goi g to get her more work. I hope she's able to do more roles like Mamacita. She's also quite good on Difficult People this season.
I think her role on Feud is the first time I've seen her completely disappear into a character. It's a really great performance. She definetly has it in her to be a solid performer not just playing a version of herself. I think she is more suited for screen and standup/cabaret work. I think she gets bored easily in a Broadway show, and that's when the schtick comes in. Though her improves when I saw Addams Family and On the Town were hysterical. I still vividly remember her trying to exit the stage in On the Town and trying to maneuver around the mirrors in the side.
As for the Dern jokes, she was again, making jokes that are clearly things Dern would never do. It's not like she was making a child porn ring joke about a man, and starting unnecessary rumors that will haunt them for their career. Nobody think Dern is running a child porn ring or a Nazi. And if they do, they're just stupid. Our society has become too PC for its own good. Hoffman clearly had a twinkle in her eye with her reaction to losing. If anyone thought she was seriously upset that ridiculous. She knew she was going to lose and people are now talking about her. I was also surprised she got such a large round of applause when her named was called. I think all this is just goi g to get her more work. I hope she's able to do more roles like Mamacita. She's also quite good on Difficult People this season.
Mildred Plotka said: "I think her role on Feud is the first time I've seen her completely disappear into a character. It's a really great performance. She definetly has it in her to be a solid performer not just playing a version of herself. I think she is more suited for screen and standup/cabaret work. I think she gets bored easily in a Broadway show, and that's when the schtick comes in. Though her improves when I saw Addams Family and On the Town were hysterical. I still vividly remember her trying to exit the stage in On the Town and trying to maneuver around the mirrors in the side.
As for thr Dern jokes, she was again, making jokes that are clearly things Dern would never do. It's not like she was making a child porn ring joke about a man, and starting unnecessary rumors that will haunt them for their career. Nobody think Dern is running a child porn ring or a Nazi. And if they do, they're just stupid. Our society has become too PC for its own good. Hoffman clearly had a twinkle in her eye with her reaction to losing. If anyone thought she was seriously upset that ridiculous. She knew she was going to lose and people are now talking about her. I was also surprised she got such a large round of applause when her named was called. I think all this is just goi g to get her more work. I hope she's able to do more roles like Mamacita. She's also quite good on Difficult People this season."
She's fantastic on Difficult People. I think I even prefer Rachel to Mamacita - I realize she's playing closer to her true self as Rachel vs. disappearing into the character but I can't help it, she kills me. The scene last season with her and Andrea Martin arguing at the Yiddish poetry reading is one of the greatest things I have ever witnessed (I'm also an Andrea fan so that was heaven for me). For anyone that was lucky enough to see her back in the day at Second City, she was the funniest person I had ever seen on a stage. I still remember specific sketches and lines - she was that good.
As someone who would love to see her get more tv/move work, I was concerned at first that her sending the tweets was not the greatest idea, not because they weren't funny (at least to me they were funny - humor is subjective so I do not judge anyone who thinks they weren't), or because I thought anyone would think she was serious. Obviously she wasn't. My concern was that it was the wrong audience for loaded humor, even if obviously false and meant as a joke. Some Hollywood people take themselves extremely seriously, and she easily could have blacklisted herself with certain producers, casting agents, directors, and actors by "making light" of the proceedings or giving the impression that she doesn't care what they think (and I honestly don't believe any actor who needs and wants to work doesn't care). I'm glad Huffington Post spun the situation positively and in the way Jackie intended it, because not all of the media outlets did.
My jury is still out on whether or not it was the wisest move, but time will tell and as a fan, I will cross my fingers that this works out in her favor.