#151
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:19am
If he was supposed to jump after her, was the rope supposed to pull him up? If he just jumped with the rope attached, he would just hang over the side, no?
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#152
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:20am
Why would they kill the lights before the guy even hits the ground? He could have at least seen what was coming and tried to better protect himself.
#153
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:21am
As I said, I haven't seen the show, but it obviously at least LOOKS like he's supposed to attempt going after her. I don't know exactly what goes down though when it's done right.
#154
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:23am
If he just jumped with the rope attached, he would just hang over the side, no?
I'd imagine he would be hanging in the pit.
I'd imagine he would be hanging in the pit.
#155
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:25am
what happens is MJ slowly falls back into the pit.
we know this because this is the SECOND time this happens in the show. this ending scene mimics the opening scene of the show. however, in this video he jumps and falls into the "stage hole"/ orchestra pit when he is supposed to jump and be restrained. like jumping in the air almost.
except he wasn't restrained this time
poor guy.
ugh
we know this because this is the SECOND time this happens in the show. this ending scene mimics the opening scene of the show. however, in this video he jumps and falls into the "stage hole"/ orchestra pit when he is supposed to jump and be restrained. like jumping in the air almost.
except he wasn't restrained this time
poor guy.
ugh
#156
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:26am
Slightly off-topic,
When Spider-man is falling it sounds like he says "It's Him." Curious to know if it's REEVE saying it (behind the scenes?) or if the stunt guys also do some of the talking in the show.
When Spider-man is falling it sounds like he says "It's Him." Curious to know if it's REEVE saying it (behind the scenes?) or if the stunt guys also do some of the talking in the show.
#157
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:28am
It's Reeve & it's probably prerecorded.
#158
Posted: 12/21/10 at 3:58am
This is total insanity.
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#159
Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:21am
Sounds like it was Christopher Tierney.
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Updated On: 12/21/10 at 04:21 AM
#160
Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:27am
My thoughts are with him. I sincerely hope he's going to be alright. And though Jennifer was reported as uninjured, I hope she's alright too. Even if she didn't get hurt in the accident, I'm sure she's shaken up pretty badly.
#161
Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:37am
I'm guessing the Times (and many others come tomorrow) will use the audience members vid because NOW it is news. They aren't just leaking something.
Watching the vid, however, I thought it all looked incredibly cheesy. (Not the actor's fall). The cutout/projection villian, how slowly Jenn "fell", etc.
As for the blackout....Spidey ISN'T suppose to go off the platform, so there is likely a certain mark he hits when the lights go to blackout. The operator would have no idea yet that there would BE an accident.
Watching the vid, however, I thought it all looked incredibly cheesy. (Not the actor's fall). The cutout/projection villian, how slowly Jenn "fell", etc.
As for the blackout....Spidey ISN'T suppose to go off the platform, so there is likely a certain mark he hits when the lights go to blackout. The operator would have no idea yet that there would BE an accident.
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Updated On: 12/21/10 at 04:37 AM
#162
Posted: 12/21/10 at 4:46am
this frightens me so very much. my thoughts and prayers are with all involved tonight.
#163
Posted: 12/21/10 at 6:20am
New York (CNN) -- An actor was injured after a fall during a performance of the musical "Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark" in New York on Monday night, a representative of the show said.
The New York Fire Department said the 31-year-old fell 20 to 30 feet and was alert when he was taken to a hospital.
Jonathan Dealwis, a tourist from New Zealand who was in the audience, told CNN the actor portraying Spider-Man fell "about six meters," or about 20 feet.
Reeve Carney is the actor who normally plays Spider-Man. But Carney was not the performer injured, show spokesman Jaron Caldwell said. Caldwell said nine stunt men perform Spider-Man's stunts when the character is masked, but did not confirm who the injured performer is.
Dealwis said the accident happened near the end of the show.
"Spider-Man was on a bridge, and Mary Jane was dangling from it," Dealwis said. "She drops down, as is meant to happen. Spider-Man went to the end of the bridge there. I think he was meant to sort of swoop over there, but he just fell off. ... The harness, you could see it just flick off his back and fly backward."
Afterward, Dealwis said, "it just went black, and the producer came on and said we're going to pause for a moment. You could hear Mary Jane weeping."
A producer then came by and said the show was over, Dealwis said. Some people "clapped awkwardly," and one girl "laughed mockingly," drawing "disapproving glances" from others.
Dealwis said the actor was wheeled away in a neck brace.
Rick Miramontez, another spokesman for the show, said in a statement that the actor fell from a platform, and the show was stopped.
"All signs were good as he was taken to the hospital for observation," Miramontez said.
The show, with music and lyrics by U2's Bono and The Edge, is the most expensive in Broadway history by a significant margin, but production has been beset by cast injuries and technical problems.
Monday night's performance was a preview performance -- the show is not officially open yet. Opening has been delayed repeatedly.
Caldwell declined to say whether the next scheduled performance will take place as planned.
Prayers to the actor.
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The New York Fire Department said the 31-year-old fell 20 to 30 feet and was alert when he was taken to a hospital.
Jonathan Dealwis, a tourist from New Zealand who was in the audience, told CNN the actor portraying Spider-Man fell "about six meters," or about 20 feet.
Reeve Carney is the actor who normally plays Spider-Man. But Carney was not the performer injured, show spokesman Jaron Caldwell said. Caldwell said nine stunt men perform Spider-Man's stunts when the character is masked, but did not confirm who the injured performer is.
Dealwis said the accident happened near the end of the show.
"Spider-Man was on a bridge, and Mary Jane was dangling from it," Dealwis said. "She drops down, as is meant to happen. Spider-Man went to the end of the bridge there. I think he was meant to sort of swoop over there, but he just fell off. ... The harness, you could see it just flick off his back and fly backward."
Afterward, Dealwis said, "it just went black, and the producer came on and said we're going to pause for a moment. You could hear Mary Jane weeping."
A producer then came by and said the show was over, Dealwis said. Some people "clapped awkwardly," and one girl "laughed mockingly," drawing "disapproving glances" from others.
Dealwis said the actor was wheeled away in a neck brace.
Rick Miramontez, another spokesman for the show, said in a statement that the actor fell from a platform, and the show was stopped.
"All signs were good as he was taken to the hospital for observation," Miramontez said.
The show, with music and lyrics by U2's Bono and The Edge, is the most expensive in Broadway history by a significant margin, but production has been beset by cast injuries and technical problems.
Monday night's performance was a preview performance -- the show is not officially open yet. Opening has been delayed repeatedly.
Caldwell declined to say whether the next scheduled performance will take place as planned.
Prayers to the actor.
cnn.com
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Updated On: 12/21/10 at 06:20 AM
#164
Posted: 12/21/10 at 6:42am
The other thing is that the cast and esp the crew are most likely very tired and overworked. The crew, for example, can be called in from 8am until the show comes down and, if necessary, also on an Equity day off (and yes, I know that we don't know yet if there was any human error involved and yes, they get paid for a 7th day) Plus, I imagine the stress and pressure are quite intense for all. But, it's a fact that fatigue contributes to accidents. Extending preview time and making changes only exacerbates this and makes the possibility of more accidents increase.
#165
Posted: 12/21/10 at 6:46am
I find it hard to believe audience members are able to guess how far the actor fell. He fell INTO a pit, and the audience would not be able to see how deep that goes.
However...the comment about the girl LAUGHING at the announcement is awful.
I also cannot imagine that the show would not be cancelling a few performances....I suspect that an investigation will be underway.
However...the comment about the girl LAUGHING at the announcement is awful.
I also cannot imagine that the show would not be cancelling a few performances....I suspect that an investigation will be underway.
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#166
Posted: 12/21/10 at 6:53am
In Cirque d'Soleil---those are trained acrobats. In Spiderman---it's actors who learn these techniques just for the role. In this case, it was a cable malfunction---but it's not a cast of acrobats. Something is not right with the entire production.
#167
Posted: 12/21/10 at 6:59am
I'm sure there are extensive training sessions that happen. Additionally, there are experts backstage -- I'm doubting that the actors are responsible for their own rigging. (But I could be wrong.)
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#168
Posted: 12/21/10 at 7:03am
Story was major lead in on Good Morning America. I have to leave for work...but will be dvr'ing it.
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#169
Posted: 12/21/10 at 7:14am
And I gather the topic of this morning's production meeting will be something like "Well, that ending didnt work too well, did it..."
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#170
Posted: 12/21/10 at 7:17am
As predicted, the show is already downplaying the incident.
From a show representative:
He fell several feet from a platform approximately seven minutes before the end of the performance, and the show was stopped.
30 feet (per the stagehand that was interviewed) is a good deal more than "several" feet. They make it sound like it was simply a matter of him tripping and falling.
All signs were good as he was taken to the hospital for observation.
One does not fall 30 feet and get taken in for "observation." And what exactly points to all signs being "good"? The guy didn't die? He's not paralyzed?
I'll be shocked if there is a performance this evening.
From a show representative:
He fell several feet from a platform approximately seven minutes before the end of the performance, and the show was stopped.
30 feet (per the stagehand that was interviewed) is a good deal more than "several" feet. They make it sound like it was simply a matter of him tripping and falling.
All signs were good as he was taken to the hospital for observation.
One does not fall 30 feet and get taken in for "observation." And what exactly points to all signs being "good"? The guy didn't die? He's not paralyzed?
I'll be shocked if there is a performance this evening.
Updated On: 12/21/10 at 07:17 AM
#171
Posted: 12/21/10 at 7:32am
Remember, Adam: the show must go on.
... especially with this mother of a budget.
... especially with this mother of a budget.
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#172
Posted: 12/21/10 at 7:59am
IMHO--They should Cut their losses and close this FIASCO before someone gets killed.
#173
Posted: 12/21/10 at 8:00am
In the opening of Lion King, there is always the potential that one of the actors may trip on their costume and be trampled by the actors behind him
This post made me laugh...thinking about a stampede during "The Circle of Life"
I crashed my bike once in front of a fire station and the EMTs strapped me to the board and used a neck brace, so I think it's pretty standard in cases of falling. It was nice looking up at all those firemen after hitting the ground BTW. Just seeing pictures of the guy with a neck brace doesn't mean that it is more likely that he has a spinal cord injury.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the accident that happened during the out of town tryout of AIDA. Originally, the tomb that Aida and Radames are in was suspended up over the stage and apparently, it fell one night. I guess they realized that there was no reason that this needed to happen, so the took it out.
This post made me laugh...thinking about a stampede during "The Circle of Life"
I crashed my bike once in front of a fire station and the EMTs strapped me to the board and used a neck brace, so I think it's pretty standard in cases of falling. It was nice looking up at all those firemen after hitting the ground BTW. Just seeing pictures of the guy with a neck brace doesn't mean that it is more likely that he has a spinal cord injury.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the accident that happened during the out of town tryout of AIDA. Originally, the tomb that Aida and Radames are in was suspended up over the stage and apparently, it fell one night. I guess they realized that there was no reason that this needed to happen, so the took it out.
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#174
Posted: 12/21/10 at 8:21am
First of all it’s terrible what happened to the actor/stunt person, I wish him a speedy recovery.
However, just a few things.
People on here can say ‘You can’t compare numbers of injuries in other shows to this one’ all you want, but the fact is that Spiderman whilst its bloody awful so many have gotten hurt is not the first and won’t be the last show to have things like this happen. Starlight Express had FAR more injuries during its first few weeks (and then it's whole run) than Spiderman has had. Yes actors did not fall in to pits but skating fast and falling led to broken wrists, broken ankles some concussion. Fame, Fosse, Saturday Night Fever etc all suffer many injuries including breaks due to dance etc. Superstar has had stage accidents with set and so on and so on.
For some reason it appears the cable that needed to be attached to the back of the performer was not hooked on properly, the crew person who does that job should be looked at.
People started saying that Little Mermaid did not count as it was during a rehearsal without an audience, well so were the first 2 Spiderman injuries but nobody said that when they happened. The last actress before this latest injury to get injured was backstage not on stage. If you have worked on professional shows (which im gonna guess many of you have not) you would know how hectic it is backstage and yes sometimes things go wrong.
Actors, Dancers, Stunt Performers etc are injured more than you think, but because of the drama of this show (fuelled by the press and now it would seem Broadway World) we are hearing every detail. I bet nobody can name any incidents from Starlight, Fame, Saturday Night Fever, Jesus Christ Superstar, Cats, Fosse, West Side Story, Footloose etc etc because those shows did not get so much public attention, hell the actor who got his leg crushed in Lord of the Rings got less attention than this.
And all the people saying ‘Im so worried for the actors, they should just close the show’, well im pretty sure the actors and crew etc don’t fancy losing their jobs at Christmas. If any actor felt unsafe in a show he or she can take it up with management and be released from their contracts.
Cirque have suffered many injuries (you only have to type it in to your search engine to see) because what they are doing is high risk, same with many of the stunts in Spiderman, something all involved will be fully aware of.
Im not saying this show should get off the hook for these injuries, I personally think another inspection is called for just to double check things and the show should go dark until that inspection is complete. I just wish people would stop talking about it like it’s the first time this has ever happened.
However, just a few things.
People on here can say ‘You can’t compare numbers of injuries in other shows to this one’ all you want, but the fact is that Spiderman whilst its bloody awful so many have gotten hurt is not the first and won’t be the last show to have things like this happen. Starlight Express had FAR more injuries during its first few weeks (and then it's whole run) than Spiderman has had. Yes actors did not fall in to pits but skating fast and falling led to broken wrists, broken ankles some concussion. Fame, Fosse, Saturday Night Fever etc all suffer many injuries including breaks due to dance etc. Superstar has had stage accidents with set and so on and so on.
For some reason it appears the cable that needed to be attached to the back of the performer was not hooked on properly, the crew person who does that job should be looked at.
People started saying that Little Mermaid did not count as it was during a rehearsal without an audience, well so were the first 2 Spiderman injuries but nobody said that when they happened. The last actress before this latest injury to get injured was backstage not on stage. If you have worked on professional shows (which im gonna guess many of you have not) you would know how hectic it is backstage and yes sometimes things go wrong.
Actors, Dancers, Stunt Performers etc are injured more than you think, but because of the drama of this show (fuelled by the press and now it would seem Broadway World) we are hearing every detail. I bet nobody can name any incidents from Starlight, Fame, Saturday Night Fever, Jesus Christ Superstar, Cats, Fosse, West Side Story, Footloose etc etc because those shows did not get so much public attention, hell the actor who got his leg crushed in Lord of the Rings got less attention than this.
And all the people saying ‘Im so worried for the actors, they should just close the show’, well im pretty sure the actors and crew etc don’t fancy losing their jobs at Christmas. If any actor felt unsafe in a show he or she can take it up with management and be released from their contracts.
Cirque have suffered many injuries (you only have to type it in to your search engine to see) because what they are doing is high risk, same with many of the stunts in Spiderman, something all involved will be fully aware of.
Im not saying this show should get off the hook for these injuries, I personally think another inspection is called for just to double check things and the show should go dark until that inspection is complete. I just wish people would stop talking about it like it’s the first time this has ever happened.
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#175
Posted: 12/21/10 at 8:45am
dramamama where is the vid?
edit: nvm I found it.
edit: nvm I found it.
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