ITH, Sister Act, Legally Blonde are all worse than B&C? Well, isn't that just your opinion? Just like anyone's opinion, it's not right or wrong --- just like your opinion and championing of B&C. While most here have enjoyed it (and some have, indeed, loved it) there are others that haven't.
You can't personally apply "value" to shows -- because it's different for each and every person.
It's a shame when any show closes without it having a 'fair chance' to find it's audience, for sure. The reveiws didn't kill it -- they weren't able to get the public at large to get interested -- even before the reviews.
MIGHT have good reviews changed that? MAYBE, but only maybe.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
When crap like Sister Act, Titanic, In the Heights, Legally Blonde runs and this wonderful piece of theatre doesn't----- somehow life isn't fair. Broadway isn't fair. The critics are not fair. Broadway is more and more a crap shoot.
I actually think all 4 of those shows are leagues better than Bonnie and Clyde. Sister Act is a fun musical comedy, Titanic has powerful story and one of the most underrated scores of the 1990's, In the Heights (despite having an awful book) has a solid, original score, and Legally Blonde was light, frothy fun, with a really bouncy score.
All of the those shows managed to run a decent amount of time (though only ITH recouped on Broadway), and none of them received rave reviews, so to say that critics have the power to kill a show is simply incorrect.
STILL doesnt' mean they "have it out for him" or didn't truly think B&C wasn't all that good.
Didn't most of the reviews say something like it's not as bad as his other shows? Just because its not as bad as usual, still doesnt make it GOOD.
(note: i'm not condemning or defending the show personally. I just think to blame the critics for it's lack of appeal is ridiculous.)
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
I don't think that's exactly true. The ticket price was very low but B&C was at 90% from word of mouth and decent reviews could have given this show life.
I personally feel ITH is a better show than the B&C I saw two years ago but again IMO it's in there with Sister Act and Legally Blonde.
Funny. When the critics give bad reviews and the show makes it, they are obsolete and their reviews now have zero impact on any Broadway show's box office.
When they give bad reviews and the show doesn't make it, it's because they are all unanimously biased against the composer and have an evil plot to destroy him. Otherwise, the mesmerizing word of mouth the show had before the reviews would have turned it into a mega hit that could have run for the next eight decades.
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The critics' negative reviews are certainly both disconcerting and problematic although, in and of themselves, should not be fatal to this show. They certainly appear to have had a large impact on the show's producers, whose lack of commitment to, and lack of faith in their own production is appalling.
Absolutely agree that the Producers have killed this show. No money spent on promotion, advertising etc. Very, very sad that this happened to all the talented people in this show. Producers didn't invest any of their heart and soul to making a long Bonnie & Clyde run even possible. And, the reviews were mixed. Why would they pull the plug on this show, this fast? Doesn't make any sense to me. Bonnie & Clyde has lot better reviews and word of mouth than a lot of other shows on Broadway.
It if had better word of mouth than other shows on BWay, the tickets would be selling, and they are not. The producers are to blame, not because they don't care, because they aren'y digging in their hundreds of pockets to PAY for advertising and marketing. PR is not cheap. You may call the reviews mixed but the general feeling led by Ben is negitive.
"When crap like Sister Act, Titanic, In the Heights, Legally Blonde runs and this wonderful piece of theatre doesn't----- somehow life isn't fair. Broadway isn't fair. The critics are not fair. Broadway is more and more a crap shoot. "
Let's be fair here! I'm not a huge fan of any of these pieces but two of them have long legs (if not the other). Despite closing "early" or bad reviews they will go on and on. Sister Act had a run in London and will be produced everywhere and by everyone when it leaves Broadway, it has massive appeal to regional theatres. Legally Blonde also had a London, show, tours, regional productions, on and on. Also it had the MTV taping which certainly made it's money back exposing it to millions of people.
Survival and success of a show are different things. These two shows are and will continue to be successful. The impressions and royalties are huge.
Sister Act and Legally Blonde were also adaptations of two immensely popular films, though. B&C isn't directly based on the film and, even if it were, the storyline/premise IMO doesn't have that same kind of universal appeal
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I do wonder if the producers thought Bonnie and Clyde was a franchise. I'm sure i'm not the only one in the camp that saw this as a miss when it was first announced.
Absolutely agree that the Producers have killed this show. No money spent on promotion, advertising etc. Very, very sad that this happened to all the talented people in this show. Producers didn't invest any of their heart and soul to making a long Bonnie & Clyde run even possible. And, the reviews were mixed. Why would they pull the plug on this show, this fast?
Are you trying to imply this show didn't close because of the ESSCAWS?! (Evil Secret Society Of Critics Against Wildhorn Shows)
What a nerve!
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"The box office just told me the show is officially closing Dec. 30th."
I don't know why the box office said that to you. I just read on the Facebook page a post by ensemble member Garrett Long saying they have "a week and a few days to turn things around. We haven't gotten our notice yet!"
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"The box office just told me the show is officially closing Dec. 30th."
I don't know why the box office said that to you. I just read on the Facebook page a post by ensemble member Garrett Long saying they have "a week and a few days to turn things around. We haven't gotten our notice yet!" (Posted 15 Hours Ago)
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