Posted: 9/20/17 at 8:59pm
Reminder here, because we're trying to avoid locking this thread - personal attacks are against our guidelines. You can disagree on issues and opinions, but do it without the personal attacks and insults. And speculation is fine in a situation where the reasons were vague, but let's keep it respectful as well please.
Posted: 9/20/17 at 9:06pm
Well.
The first day they went on sale, I purchased my "Carousel" ticket for one reason alone: Renee Fleming. Her beautiful voice is matched by few, and I am excited beyond measure to finally see her in performance.
Although I am not familiar with Miss Wolfe, I know from some posts here that she is much loved and much admired. I appreciate the disappointment many feel. Whatever the reason for her no longer being a part of "Carousel," I wish her happiness wherever life may take her.
Posted: 9/20/17 at 9:47pm
If an actor doesn't want people talking about them on internet message boards they should stick to regional theatre, not a string of starring roles on Broadway.
Posted: 9/20/17 at 9:47pm
So after 11 pages where people guessed she was
pregnant
maybe taken by aliens
going back into Frozen
playing wicked
and Jebus only knows what else
Have we heard an official response yet?
Posted: 9/20/17 at 9:56pm
If an actor doesn't want people talking about them on internet message boards they should stick to regional theatre, not a string of starring roles on Broadway.
Who are you talking about?
Posted: 9/20/17 at 9:56pm
She said up front there is a conflict with this fall. I would imagine if she wanted to say more and it was anyone else's business, she would have.
Why do so many people feel they are entitled to know her personal business and her thoughts? Betsy is about as fan friendly as they come but she is entitled to some privacy.
This whole thread reminds me of "Pick a little, talk a little" from The Music Man.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:02pm
So... probably not pregnant.
https://mobile.twitter.com/betsywolfe/status/912812274481541125
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:18pm
Scott Rudin retracted his verbal offer, she never signed a contract. She was basically fired. Hope the best for her and that she finds a better project, although starring in Waitress currently is not so bad.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:23pm
If that’s the case. It makes no sense to fire someone who you haven’t seen play the part yet. That just seems illogical
Updated On: 9/26/17 at 07:23 PM
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:26pm
phan24 said: "Scott Rudin retracted his verbal offer, she never signed a contract. She was basically fired. Hope the best for her and that she finds a better project, although starring in Waitress currently is not so bad."
The savagery!
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:31pm
Jorge, don't believe everything you read without proof. It's easy for you to call him sucky, or make an impression of the person based on hearsay. Even if it's proved to be wrong later, that impression has been made and is difficult to undo. Not just for you, but for everyone who reads this and does not critically think about it for themselves first. Fact is that we don't know what happened behind the scenes and while it's fun to speculate, making judgements based on speculations are toxic.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:32pm
But if the contract was never signed and why did they put out a press release confirming that she would be in it? Aren't press releases only put out after all the t's are crossed and the i's dotted?
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:33pm
Valentina3 said: "Jorge, don't believe everything you read without proof. It's easy for you to call him sucky, or make an impression of the person based on hearsay. Even if it's proved to be wrong later, that impression has been made and is difficult to undo. Not just for you, but for everyone who reads this and does not critically think about it for themselves first. Fact is that we don't know what happened behind the scenes and while it's fun to speculate, making judgements based on speculations are toxic."
Duly noted. I’ll edit my post
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:35pm
bwayboy22 said: "But if the contract was never signed and why did they put out a press release confirming that she would be in it? Aren't press releases only put out after all the t's are crossed and the i's dotted?"
Not all the time. Eden Espinosa was announced prematurely as Sheila in the Hair revival and ended up not being apart of the production. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure she hadn't signed a contract and they couldn't come to terms during negotiations so she departed.
In short, sometimes casting announcements are made before signatures.
Updated On: 9/26/17 at 07:35 PM
Posted: 9/26/17 at 7:51pm
Can you really be fired if you were never really actually hired (no contract signed)
Posted: 9/26/17 at 8:01pm
smidge said: "Can you really be fired if you were never really actually hired (no contract signed)"
I think of it more as let go since the punitive element that's associated with firing isn't there.
If she was let go from this than I feel really bad for her. I don't care what anyone says or what she implies, she absolutely did not leave Frozen of her own volition and anyone who believes that is a fool. Only an absolute idiot would leave Frozen. Being let go twice in a row like this is just awful, If it's true. I admire her strength and the way that she is carrying herself if she was indeed let go from both projects. I know this must be difficult though.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 8:09pm
^ I can't speak to Betsy, but a LOT of people left Frozen on their own, as the workshops (and the out-of-town) were a hot mess.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 8:27pm
People always say a new director comes with a new cast and I never understand why are patti and Greg still with the show, then? If Betsy truly got fired(from one or both) I’d be super disappointed. Not everyone loves Betsy, but I wholeheartedly believe she’s one of the most amazingly talented gals up on the broadway stage. It’s their loss if they did.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 8:35pm
Call_me_jorge said: "People always say a new director comes with a new cast and I never understand why are patti and Greg still with the show, then? "
Because the director liked Patti and Greg and did not like Betsy. It's fairly simple.
Her "Let it Go" is not great, and she's not a high belter. She can pull it off, sometimes, but that's not the best part of her voice. I think she would have been great in Carousel as that would have been a much better fit for her vocal strengths. I was not looking forward to hearing her clearly mix the Frozen score.
Updated On: 9/26/17 at 08:35 PM
Posted: 9/26/17 at 9:02pm
Actually she is a high belter. She sings in a very strong and healthy mix which is the proper way to sing.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 9:52pm
I can't believe you just said Betsy Wolfe isn't a high belter.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 9:58pm
This is anti-climactic if it's true. And pretty ****ty for her.
Posted: 9/26/17 at 10:03pm
SchuylWERKsister said: "Not all the time. Eden Espinosa was announced prematurely as Sheila in the Hair revivaland ended up not being apart of theproduction. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure she hadn't signed a contract and they couldn't come to terms duringnegotiations so she departed.
In short, sometimes casting announcements aremadebefore signatures."
And, if I remember correctly, rumors swirled back then that Espinosa was pregnant, with that being the cause for her departure from HAIR (which obviously turned out to be unfounded). Oh, how history repeats itself.
Updated On: 9/27/17 at 10:03 PM
