Featured Actor Joined: 9/14/16
charlie525600 said: "For the person who asked "How can there be 48 shows in 41 theatres". There were 34 Broadway shows running last week."
Broadway World's data originally said 48 shows were running (despite listing 34 shows). They have since dorrected it.
Sutton Ross said: "For the most part, high art wins Tonys, and high entertainment sells more tickets. Rarely do the two intersect these days...
Correct.The Academy Awards gave Best Picture to a brilliant but not popular film. Meanwhile, it was Top Gun: Maverick that brought people back to cinemas and made over a billion dollars."
I see your point but Everything Everywhere All At Once was made for $14m and made $140m...so I'd say it was both - high art and hight entertainment.
EDSOSLO858 said:
SIX and Hadestown are starting to cool off.
Massive drop forPeter Pan Goes Wrong, even with NPH."
Cooling off seems more for the latter than the former. Yeah, $629K for HADESTOWN isn't great, but the houses are still full compared to most other fare out there. SIX grossing $853K on a unit set show with six actors (and four alternates) is basically printing money at this point - and easily movable to New World Stages when it's time to downsize.
The PPGW drop actually doesn't surprise me because I don't think his extension for an extra week was highly advertised. I actually didn't even know he extended until I walked by the theatre to get a ticket and made out with a pretty good deal (since the discount codes that were suspended were active again). The house was half-full at best the night I went, with large swaths of the orchestra and front mezzanine empty.
I'm so sad to see DANCIN' go and it having to take a closing notice for it to get an audience(-ish) back. I see closing night is already sold out, but Friday is still very unsold and I think it's just going to be mostly last minute purchases.
BAD CINDERELLA...let's just say that even the papering services aren't able to offload their stock.
I agree that most people didn't know NPH extended an extra week for Peter Pan Goes Wrong. Heck a week ago I thought NPH's last day was end of April.
I'm surprised by Sign in Sydney Brustein's Window having avg ticket price of $60 (second lowest avg ticket price this week after Bad Cinderella.)I recall it was such a hard ticket to get when it was at BAM and only tix left were over $250.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
Call_me_jorge said: "Delightfully surprised sweeney was still able to see a bump despite Groban being out for a performance. I wonder if that a testament to the show being the star and not him, specifically."
I don’t think so…most audience members are very disappointed but stay. We saw that recently when LM was out and the box office still did spectacularly.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
I found it fascinating that NYNY grossed more than &Juliet. I wonder how much LMM is helping this at the box office, which a poster questioned last week.
Not like NYNY is doing spectacularly, just really surprised, since &Juliet has not been opened for that long and seemed to be doing the best of the new musicals.
Jarethan said: "I found it fascinating that NYNY grossed more than &Juliet. I wonder how much LMM is helping this at the box office, which a poster questioned last week.
Not like NYNY is doing spectacularly, just really surprised, since &Juliet has not been opened for that long and seemed to be doing the best of the new musicals."
LMM's involvement with the recent press coverage is having a huge impact on the box office. This show would be doing sub-SOME LIKE IT HOT levels without him. That doesn't guarantee sustained sales, but it's a good start. &J has been open for 6 months and may be starting to dip naturally –– or it just had a bad week and NYNY had a good week. We'll see how things even out over the coming weeks.
I see your point but Everything Everywhere All At Once was made for $14m and made $140m...so I'd say it was both - high art and high entertainment."
Yeah...if you had bothered to do anything other than skim Wikipedia and did some actual research, you would have found out that Everything Everywhere All at Once profited 32 million dollars after everything was all said and done. Top Gun: Maverick finally brought people back to the movie theaters after more than two years and did something that most movies never could achieve. It also has profited 391 million dollars so far. Comparing the two is ridiculous so nope, you clearly missed my point.
Featured Actor Joined: 9/26/07
RippedMan said: "Sutton Ross said: "For the most part, high art wins Tonys, and high entertainment sells more tickets. Rarely do the two intersect these days...
Correct.The Academy Awards gave Best Picture to a brilliant but not popular film. Meanwhile, it was Top Gun: Maverick that brought people back to cinemas and made over a billion dollars."
I see your point but Everything Everywhere All At Once was made for $14m and made $140m...so I'd say it was both - high art and hight entertainment."
Everything Everywhere All At Once high art? A lot of people will disagree.
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/25/05
Average ticket price and % sold are far more telling than the Gross.
NYNY has the capacity to sell 5,000+ more tickets every week than & Juliet, and this week outgrossed them by $12,000. & Juliet is consistently selling at or above 95% compared to NYNY’s 83% this past week, with higher ticket prices.
Sutton Ross said: "Comparing the two is ridiculous so nope, you clearly missed my point."
Your “point” had nothing to do with the one being discussed, or even the industry this board is focused on. You went on to ramble about box office profits and last year’s releases in the film industry. We’re talking about current happenings on Broadway. So nope, your ‘point’ is ridiculous and deserves to be missed. Moving on.
Understudy Joined: 5/11/22
Looks like the usual fan favorites continue to hold strong (Hamilton, MJ, Moulin Rouge, Disney Theatrical) and Prima Facie, Sweeney, & Juliet, and Parade are the hits of the season. Shucked continues its slow climb upward via the avalanche of marketing and good word of mouth, while the touristy faves (Hadestown, Six, BOM, Wicked, and HP) stumble a little as the city slows before the summer surge.
Some of the newer plays have an uphill battle ahead of them: Sidney Brustein sold out at the BAM, but only ran there for just under 3 weeks, and has a different audience to entertain for Broadway's 10 weeks. This seems like a show that would certainly benefit from a Tony Revival win. Peter Pan Goes Wrong needs to keep cycling in guest stars if they want to maintain any sort of momentum. A 14% attendance drop is telling that NPH was a massive draw, and yet they did not advertise his extension well at all. Life of Pi should probably plan a closing date around Labor Day as they're doing ok, but not great; certainly not well enough to sustain themselves past the next few months. Good Night Oscar really needs to lower their pricing or start putting out discount options. It's hardly doing well enough to justify gatekeeping their ticket prices that high.
Here's hoping SLIH can make the most off their MANY award nominations, Tony and otherwise. Seems they got a small bump this week, but next week or two will be the real tell. Glad to see people making their way to Dancin' before its close.
Bad Cinderella. Wow....that's brutal, but I'm truly not surprised at this point. Someone not long ago said we should expect to hear a closing announcement for end of June, and with those numbers/avg ticket price/capacity? I wouldn't be shocked if it gets announced in a week's time.
Sutton Ross said: "I see your point but Everything Everywhere All At Once was made for $14m and made $140m...so I'd say it was both - high art and high entertainment."
Yeah...if you had bothered to do anything other than skim Wikipedia and did some actual research, you would have found out that Everything Everywhere All at Once profited 32 million dollars after everything was all said and done. Top Gun: Maverick finally brought people back to the movie theaters after more than two years and did something that most movies never could achieve. It also has profited 391 million dollars so far. Comparing the two is ridiculous so nope, you clearly missed my point."
There you go being rude again. It just seems you can't help yourself.
Sutton Ross said: "I see your point but Everything Everywhere All At Once was made for $14m and made $140m...so I'd say it was both - high art and high entertainment."
Yeah...if you had bothered to do anything other than skim Wikipedia and did some actual research, you would have found out that Everything Everywhere All at Once profited 32 million dollars after everything was all said and done. Top Gun: Maverick finally brought people back to the movie theaters after more than two years and did something that most movies never could achieve. It also has profited 391 million dollars so far. Comparing the two is ridiculous so nope, you clearly missed my point."
So... $40m in profits and winning an Oscar is ****, huh? Like no one would want that. Got it. Just sayin that's not a great example as they both made bank for their respective producers. You actually CAN have high art and high entertainment. Fun Home, Hamilton, Next to Normal, etc. It actually does happen and we can strive for it.
Everything Everywhere All At Once high art? A lot of people will disagree.
Haha. Absolutely. Even my snobbiest film producer friend called it "All the words all at once with no script involved". Such a slog!
I loved it. So each their own. That's art. And it made money, so it is by all accounts a hit. But by all means keep dissing it.
GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Sutton Ross said: "Comparing the two is ridiculous so nope, you clearly missed my point."
Your “point” had nothing to do with the onebeing discussed, or even the industry this board is focused on. You went on to ramble about box office profits and last year’s releases in the film industry. We’re talking about current happenings on Broadway. So nope, your ‘point’ is ridiculous and deserves to be missed. Moving on."
period
Everything Everywhere was a huge hit for A24, a hit critically, a hit with audiences, a hit culturally, and a hit with awards bodies. Anybody on this thread trying to diminish or disregard it has no idea what they are talking about regardless of how confidently or condescendingly they say it. Per usual.
I've never understood why people can't get that two things can be true: both were massive hits. Both were successes both artistically and financially. I mean, Top Gun getting nominated for Best Picture is a huge accomplishment. Why do we have to diminish one to support the other? Dumb.
Folks on this board are a lot… punchier than usual. Y’all okay?
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
trpguyy said: "Average ticket price and % sold are far more telling than the Gross.
NYNY has the capacity to sell 5,000+ more tickets every week than & Juliet, and this week outgrossed them by $12,000. & Juliet is consistently selling at or above 95% compared to NYNY’s 83% this past week, with higher ticket prices."
I agree with that; nevertheless, I am still surprised. In a season which has not had a NEW runaway hit musical, &Juliet has still been the most consistent grosser (although Beautiful Noise seems to be having a second wind), to see NYNY exceed it despite recent pretty bad reviews is still somewhat impressive. Only time will tell whether it can sustain or improve its current grosses for more than a limited number of weeks (I bet it won’t).
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/10/11
Icon it amazing that Funny Girl managed to have the highest average ticket price while only selling 3/4 of its seats. I do imagine it will pick up significantly once tourists start hitting town in numbers and people begin to focus on its early September closing.
Swing Joined: 3/8/23
Honestly, even if Kimberly Akimbo wins the 8 categories it is nominated on I don't see it as the kind of show to even surpass 1 million weekly grosses, but as with Spring Awakening I hope that doesn't mean it won't become a runaway hit.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/26/16
Jarethan said: "Icon it amazing that Funny Girl managed to have the highest average ticket price while only selling 3/4 of its seats. I do imagine it will pick up significantly once tourists start hitting town in numbers and people begin to focus on its early September closing."
Things have gotten a little unusual, with the much lower prices recently and the show available on TKTS even when Lea Michele is on.
I assume you’re right, as you guessed on the Funny Girl thread, that prices will go up during the summer and as the closing approaches. Late August ticket prices are a lot higher on that assumption. It’s too rich for my blood. I am willing to overpay to a certain extent, but not $335 for side orchestra seats on a weeknight. I wonder if others have sticker shock too, or if the tickets toward the end will get snapped up even by people who have seen it before.
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