JennH said: "I'm planning on seeing Spencer which looks like it could actually be great in many respects, but once this show closes, and I imagine it'll be pretty fast, I reeeaalllyy think Princess Di should be allowed to rest in much deserved peace and not dredge up her corpse again and again, much like that one review stated. No one really has been able to get her story right, because it really is a tall order for all involved. There's just still a lot of unknowns surrounding it."
Unfortunately, no chance of that, as Diana will again be a major focus of the next season of The Crown next year.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
valebal7 said: "If we were to create a pool (similar to a baby pool), what date do you think Diana will close? I'll be the first - January 3, 2022. Any guesses??"
"Oh god, again to the Wicked martyrs, the show got nowhere near to a "critical onslaught". Most reviews had something positive to say about it."
Bingo. "Wicked" received "mixed" reviews like many other shows (Rent, Les Miserables) that went on to have huge success. I can't imagine critics saying something bad about the performances of Idina Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth.
“I’m intrigued why people think it’s great to make a really serious film about her, but really bad to make a light-hearted musical,” Waal said as the Rolls-Royce inched its way through Times Square. “They’re both produced privately for profit, and they’re both entertainment. So, why is one fine and the other isn’t?,” she asked. “The audiences who come to see our show, who wear tiaras and boo at Charles, are just as deserving of their entertainment as someone who wants to go to the movies and weep.”
“Look,” Frank Marshall, the show’s producer who last mounted “Escape to Margaritaville” on Broadway, said outside the theater before the performance on Wednesday. “This was never meant to be a serious study. This is one way of telling her story, and we have to face the reality that it was a tabloid story,” he said, echoing the first line spoken in the musical: “Was there ever a greater tabloid tale?”
So now they're saying it was always meant to be camp and crassly exploitative? Then why change some of the mocked lyrics?
I haven't seen anyone criticizing the show for being un-serious. The criticism is that it is un-good. They are deflecting. As I asked above, what are they supposed to say? Campy is good. Lazy is bad. There is no excuse for lazy.
.......the audience seems to like what they see, and this is what really counts.
Following their reaction on social media almost all of them are positive. Some even go there 2 times / day, Others already bought tickets for many more additional shows they want to see.
I know, this is something many of you don't want to read, bec their mission is to hate it anyways, but if you don't believe, go check by yourself.
It's a show that works out live, no matter if you can stand it or not.
And yes, I'm defending this show. Not bec it's perfect, but at the same same time, I wonder why some ppl, who haven't seen it live obviously, keep spreading hate for no reason.
Why is it an issue for you, that the people in the cast love what they do? Who are you stating that this can't be meant seriously and that they are lying? Why do you dare??
I've talked to some Iof them openly, and they all told how much they enjoy their roles the show and each other there.
Why do you keep posting quotes out of context and quotes being replaced in the actual show for weeks now? Is there a reason for it?
I know I will never get answers!
If you don't like it for some reason, it's fine, but what some of you do here is totally out of context. I've seen someone blogging on YouTube talking about the media. He called it mobbing, and that's what's going on here too.
People who like it don't dare posting about it here anymore, bec their opinion wouldn't be accepted or respected in any way.
Some people would make them feel uncomfortable and kinda laughed at anyways.
Instead of that they would have to justify themselves for their opinions, like I've been asked why I defend the show. I've been even called being a liar and was even indicted that I've created 100s of different accounts to write positive reviews about it on a certain site, I don't even remember now. What's wrong with you??
So, why is it kinda forbidden to like it here?
For some reason certain people don't miss an opportunity to spread negativity about it again and again , judging the actors, spreading untrue rumors and gossip, just to make the show look bad or make fun of it, and showing no respect for people working their asses off there.
This is kindergarten-level.
So I don't see a reason why to shut up and not sharing my point if view. I respect their work, and I respect this show for what it is. Not perfect, but enjoyable and fun, where people have a food time. They dance. They cheer. They like it obviously. They talk about it on Twitter and Co.
Or do you also call them all being liars?
....most likely you do.....
You don't see how determined, and hateful you are anymore...
In other news ..... Anybody heard of the musical Diana and Sons now playing in The Netherlands. Diana en Zonen.
Came upon it accidentally. Don't understand a word but kinda looks interesting. Loving the sets and the song it's catching me. Anyone up for a trip to Amsterdam...
I've never tried to attach a link, hope this works.
Wati...you mean that there is are critics who actually criticize? What is the world coming to? I mean, everyone seems to stand and applause the weakest of attempts, a buzzard ****, if you will, but to actually criticize something because it is terribly written, bland, grotesque in taste and has no point of value? What is this new revolution? No one is taking them to task for being negative and judgmental?
behindthescenes2 said: "Wati...you mean that there is are critics who actually criticize? What is the world coming to? I mean, everyone seems to stand and applause the weakest of attempts, a buzzard ****, if you will, but to actually criticize something because it is terribly written, bland, grotesque in taste and has no point of value? What is this new revolution? No one is taking them to task for being negative and judgmental?
Hmmm, how will they all live with themselves."
Criticizing I am constructive way-yes!
But Criticizing before it's even released/opened, and Criticizing lines that aren't in the actual show anymore??? NO!!!
THAT'S the point!. Why taking them seriously? This is nothing but lame journalism on lowest level.
Who gives a flying fuk what these random people like or don't like? Not once have I ever paid money for something based on somebody else's opinion. I purchased a ticket solely based on if I would like it. The exception would be if the price was low enough, I would give it a chance. (Flying Over Sunset) I find it interesting that Diana (which I liked for the most part) has terrible reviews, yet is selling just as good, and in some cases better then some of these shows that received raves from the critics. Some of these shows that received raves have already closed or have announced their closing. For whatever reason why Diana is selling, the bottom line is that it is selling.
ArtMan said: "Who gives a flying fuk what these random people like or don't like? Not once have I ever paid money for something based on somebody else's opinion. I purchased a ticket solely based on if I would like it. The exception would be if the price was low enough, I would give it a chance. (Flying Over Sunset) I find it interesting that Diana (which I liked for the most part) has terrible reviews, yet is selling just as good, and in some cases better then some of these shows that received raves from the critics. Some of these shows that received raves have already closed or have announced their closing. For whatever reason why Diana is selling, the bottom line is that it is selling."
Well, the bottom line is actually it's not selling. I'm on Telecharge right now looking at next weekend's performances- historically a good weekend for Broadway shows- and the houses all look to be at best half-full. The mezz and balcony are both ghost towns. And this seems to largely be case for the entire month of December- again, a very good time for Broadway. No one with familiarity with this business could look at these houses and think the show is in any sort of good place. It's being floated by a quickly dwindling reserve of money and has been kneecapped by bad word of mouth and bad reviews. The baffling choice to release it first on Netflix basically shot it in the foot before it could even start.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Kad said: "...... It's being floated by a quickly dwindling reserve of money and has been kneecapped by bad word of mouth and bad reviews. ....."
You better check social media, to see what people who've been there are sharing about the show.... Almost everyone is raving and they keep coming back.
For sure the bad reviews are hurting the sales, but telling that word if mouth is bad, is just not true! - No matter if you like it, or not!!
Well, the bottom line is actually it's not selling. I'm on Telecharge right now looking at next weekend's performances- historically a good weekend for Broadway shows- and the houses all look to be at best half-full. The mezz and balcony are both ghost towns. And this seems to largely be case for the entire month of December- again, a very good time for Broadway. No one with familiarity with this business could look at these houses and think the show is in any sort of good place. It's being floated by a quickly dwindling reserve of money and has been kneecapped by bad word of mouth and bad reviews. The baffling choice to release it first on Netflix basically shot it in the foot before it could even start."
When I made my comment it was based on looking at this Monday and Tuesday's performance. And there are more than half full tickets sold. I NEVER said this show is in any sort of good place. I said IT IS SELLING JUST AS GOOD AS SHOWS THAT HAD RAVE REVIEWS, THAT ARE ALREADY CLOSING. However, based on people's comments on here and those rudely guessing their closing date, one would get the impression that they haven't sold a single ticket since the reviews came out. If you were to state they purchased before the reviews came out, they can very easily cancel those tickets. My main point of my post was who cares what critics state and who cares on bad word of mouth. Make YOUR OWN decision whether to see something or not.
I went to see the show with 8 friends, only 1 didn't like it. We are 9 people and everyone loved it but 1. So critics, I hope you're reading this: you suck!
"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one".
-Felicia Finley-
Showhopper2 said: "Kad said: "...... It's being floated by a quickly dwindling reserve of money and has been kneecapped by bad word of mouth and bad reviews. ....."
You better check social media, to see what people who've been there are sharing about the show.... Almost everyone is raving and they keep coming back.
For sure the bad reviews are hurting the sales, but telling that word if mouth is bad, is just not true! - No matter if you like it, or not!!"
It, like basically ALL things, has a vocal contingent of fans on social media. If word of mouth were wholly positive outside of the self-selected circles of fans on social media, it would be selling tickets. One only has to look at something like the Beetlejuice musical, which overcame mixed to negative reviews and did very good business based largely on social media word of mouth, for how that would look. That isn't happening here.
(And also, WHERE on social media are these hordes of adoring fans? The official tag on Twitter - #ThePeoplesMusical- has very few posts. The official Twitter account has a measly 2500 followers- for comparison's sake, the Company revival has 9.6k).
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
ArtMan said: "So based on these "critics" and the other 63 people, I shouldn't purchase a ticket? Tell that to the other sheep. I say baaaahhh humbug!"
Literally nobody here is saying that. You're not some pillar of individuality for bravely deciding to buy a ticket based on your opinion. I would imagine that, y'know, most people do that.
Go see and enjoy whatever you want. That doesn't mean this production is making money.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."