DIANA Reviews — Page 4

Kad said: "ArtMan said: "So based on these "critics" and the other 63 people, I shouldn't purchase a ticket? Tell that to the other sheep. I say baaaahhh humbug!"

Literally nobody here is saying that. You're not some pillar of individuality for bravely deciding to buy a ticket based on your opinion. I would imagine that, y'know, most people do that.

Go see and enjoy whatever you want. That doesn't mean this production is making money."

Kad, literally they are saying that. Reread the thread. I'm NOT "some pillar of individuality for bravely deciding to buy a ticket" I bought a ticket, because it was a production, for the new season, had some interest in it and it was CHEAP. I ended up liking it. I'm just not influenced by other people's opinions, including critics. Unfortunately, there are some on this site who would love to have that power over people.

Updated On: 11/21/21 at 01:24 PM

Zion24, I can't speak for Showstopper2. I will speak for myself. I'm not bothered that people don't like the show......I'm bothered that people think because THEY didn't like the show, the show MUST automatically close.

ArtMan said: "I'm NOT "some pillar of individuality for bravely deciding to buy a ticket" I bought a ticket, because it was a production, for the new season, had some interest in it and it was CHEAP. I ended up liking it. I'm just not influenced by other people's opinions, including critics. Unfortunately, there are some on this site who would love to have that power over people."

By my count, you are missing every point that's being made.

1. The point is: the show is not making money. That's a fact. When you say "it was CHEAP" you are buttressing that fact. It is also not a surprise that it is not making money; this is precisely what every knowledgeable person has been saying since the stupid experiment was first announced. You don't seem to care.

2. The point is: the reviews and WOM have been bad. That's a fact. That fact is not disproven because some people (even you) like it. Some shows make money despite bad reviews. No shows make money despite bad WOM. You don't seem to care.

Moral of story: start caring.

HogansHero said: "ArtMan said: "I'm NOT "some pillar of individuality for bravely deciding to buy a ticket" I bought a ticket, because it was a production, for the new season, had some interest in it and it was CHEAP. I ended up liking it. I'm just not influenced by other people's opinions, including critics. Unfortunately, there are some on this site who would love to have that power over people."

By my count, you are missing every point that's being made.

1. The point is: the show is not making money. That's a fact. When you say "it was CHEAP" you are buttressing that fact. It is also not a surprise that it is not making money; this is precisely what every knowledgeable person has been saying since the stupid experiment was first announced. You don't seem to care.

2. The point is: the reviews and WOM have been bad. That's a fact. That fact is not disproven because some people (even you) like it. Some shows make money despite bad reviews. No shows make money despite bad WOM. You don't seem to care.

Moral of story: start caring.

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I'm not missing ANY points. I DON"T CARE. Diana closing or staying open isn't going to affect my life in any way. Of course the show is not making money. I never said it wasn't. Reread my posts. I stated that WOM and critics don't have any influence on my ticket purchasing. WTF does my buying a cheap ticket have to do with whether this stays open or closes. I bought CHEAP tickets to Doubtfire, Caroline, Sunset and Company. Then according to you, they are in danger of closing also. I never spoke whether the show was making/losing money. Only on if bad reviews influence me. I need to concern myself with my own stock portfolio. Why the fuk would I care if Diana's Producers are making money? However, what I do care about. There are some on here that think their opinion on just about any subject is the correct and only opinion and have no problem putting down others if they have a opinion that differs. That works alot around here, because the person is either young, timid or wants to be liked. I'm not young, sure as hell ain't timid and don't care if a stranger on the internet likes me or not.

Deflect much? God, you're a piece of work. That is all.

Updated On: 11/23/21 at 05:24 PM

The arrogance of certain people here us unbelievable!!!!

Reading here "this board is here for discussion.." and attacking people with other opinions at the same time..

This is hilarious!!

I feel for these people. Showing a behavior like this they can't have many friends in real world out there.

I watched DIANA on Netflix and loved it. I truly enjoyed it from start to finish. Even after the trashing it was getting, I still made time to watch it and enjoyed the ride. The campiness, the attempted serious moments, the hilarious choreography - I loved it all. It did what it was intended to do: entertain me. It’s hilarious how much time is being wasted by many trying to debate a point. You guys need to take a break and walk outside and clear your heads. The reviews were terrible as is the ongoing word-of-mouth. We all know a closing notice is evident soon. Now move on.

When you're high as hell, this is a real treat. That's all.

There seems to be two distinct discussions happening: subjective discussion of the show's merits, and discussion on the objective reality of the production as a business. People are welcome to think the show is so bad it's bad, or so bad it's good, or so okay it's fine. But the undebatable fact is that the show isn't building much of an audience willing to pay to see it- this could change but there isn't a lot of time for that to happen, nor does there seem to much indication that any sort of a build is forming, nor are there many precedents for something like that.

Discussion about the business of Broadway isn't as generally fun as talking about whether shows are good or not, but for people working in or interested in what makes these productions tick, it's an entirely valid and important topic. And Diana will probably be looked at for its failures and questionable choices from a producing side for a while- with a lot of numbers to back that up.

Updated On: 11/22/21 at 12:56 PM

CATSNYrevival said: "I enjoyed the ride as well. I wanted a trashy pop soap opera and that's what I got. I understand a little better why some people take umbragewith this show. It's not the same as Evita because Evita is smartly crafted, was brilliantly directed by Hal Prince, and it actually has something to say about politics and celebrity. Society, outside of Argentina, is further removed emotionally from Eva Peron and her influence, and the same is just not true for Diana. Reading the New York Times review it seems as though there is, apparently, a different set of rules for a musical about Princess Diana that other musicals and other celebrity bio musicals simply do not have to abide by."

You could also argue the desire for delicacy around her story the same reason people would potentially buy tickets to a Diana musical. Many American Diana fans followed her life and remain invested because they projected onto/connected with her. So, a show that is so tawdry and tacky about the events of her tragic life was always a strange angle. There's a reason The Crown is successful: it's very high class, top drawer soap opera. A more crass version wouldn't have interested Royal buffs.

I often wonder what all of this is like for Prince William and Prince Harry.

I can't help but wonder what this show would have been like with a creative team that was actually respectful to Diana and her life. I think if this had been done in the same sophisticated style and caliber as, say, WAR PAINT, the end result would have been much better. Also, on that note, I would love to hear what Frankel and Korie would have done with a score for this.

windowwaving said: "I was looking at Diana tickets and noticed that they're not selling any tickets in the balcony section for Thanksgiving weekend. Did they always do this?"

No, they have not. It’s only a recent thing. They close off the balcony when it has next to no seats there and for those that do have balcony tickets, ushers are told which seats in the mezz are free to give to people who had bought balcony tickets.

Updated On: 11/25/21 at 08:51 PM