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#78

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

Call_me_jorge said: "Another Room/My Son’s a Queer scenario or did Darren Criss drop out?"

I'd find it hard to believe Criss dropped out when the show was just recently announced for his Elsie Fest. Probably financial woes if this news is true, so yes, it would be another Room / MSAQ scenario.


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#82

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

I've been hearing whispers from two different connections of a production not making it to opening over failing to secure the needed funds combined with a very poor advance. I just didn't know which one until, seemingly, now. Which is devastating because this and Death Becomes Her were/are my most anticipated fall shows.

Updated On: 8/15/24 at 11:04 PM

#83

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

So I guess the answer to my initial question on this thread is no, Criss cannot sell a new musical. He will also be on the insufferable Z100 morning show tomorrow, and I'll assume this is where the bad news will become official. 

The Belasco would be a nice fit for The Motive and the Cue or Glengarry Glen Ross.

 


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Updated On: 8/15/24 at 11:11 PM

#85

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

“ Where are people hearing this???”

everywhere. Here is where the issue comes into play. Support original musicals, sure! But where is the economic support? There is a genuine lack of understanding, actually let’s call it straight up ignorance, of how this industry works. Broadway is a business, and until the TikTok, Reddit and frankly a lot of BWW posters understand that, we’re not going to get far. 

#88

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

theatergoer3 said: "If not where the current sourcing is from, there is a TikTok by the Oracle.

Edit: Criss is on SiriusXM tmrw for this and Elsie Fest
"

Do we know what time?


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#89

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "theatergoer3 said: "If not where the current sourcing is from, there is a TikTok by the Oracle.

Edit: Criss is on SiriusXM tmrw for this and Elsie Fest
"

Do we know what time?
"

It was supposed to be 7:50 but their Twitter account just deleted the promo post. So I doubt he’s on.

More fuel to the fire. 

Updated On: 8/16/24 at 09:20 AM

#90

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

Almost a $18 million cap for a four hander all Asian musical… now to go down in history as a real flop. After Frank’s West End show closing early, I really didn’t want to see this fail. Why was it so expensive? Is it Darren’s salary? I’m just so gutted that it feels like Asian musicals can’t succeed. If you can’t raise the full amount for a Darren Criss led show, then Broadway is really morphing. Maybe they could’ve used a star instead of Helen for Claire? Just coping, don’t mind me. 

Sigh.


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#91

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

GottaGetAGimmick420 said: "Almost a $18 million cap for a four hander all Asian musical… now to go down in history as a realflop. After Frank’s West End show closingearly, I really didn’t want to see this fail. Why was it so expensive? Is it Darren’s salary? I’m just so gutted that it feels like Asian musicals can’t succeed. If you can’t raise the full amount for a Darren Criss led show, then Broadway is really morphing. Maybe they could’ve used a star instead of Helen for Claire? Just coping, don’t mind me.

Sigh.
"

Maybe it's comparing apples to oranges, but Dear Evan Hansen opened 9 years ago with an eight-person cast, and its capitalization was half that much. I don't care if Darren Criss is getting paid in private islands, there is absolutely no way a show this size should cost anywhere near that much money.

#93

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

The most surprising thing is that I would never expect a Jeffrey Richard’s led show to end this way. He’s a rather reputable producer and if he can’t find the investors for one of his shows how could anyone else?? 


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#94

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

And the show isn’t even all that great, either. I saw a videotaped staged workshop with the Atlanta leads a few years ago, and didn’t think it was anything more than “cute.” I can already imagine most of us humming the scenery (and there are some pretty cool effects, from what I’ve been told). 

If it had been fully funded, it would’ve easily closed before Christmas. 


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#95

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

The design looked really cool. I don't think Broadway is changing so much as it's just inflation and whatnot. It's always been a gamble. Maybe they should have gone the nonprofit route and done this at Playwrights. 

#96

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

When I, of all people, hear these rumors, it's likely true.    When they delayed the start of previews, I had my suspicions.  (Right?  That was this show, yes?)


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#98

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

RippedMan said: "The design looked really cool. I don't think Broadway is changing so much as it's just inflation and whatnot. It's always been a gamble. Maybe they should have gone the nonprofit route and done this at Playwrights."

Off-Broadway house definitely would be more appropriate. Shows like this need a small house/ticket scarcity factor to sell out. 

#99

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

Call_me_jorge said: "The most surprising thing is that I would never expect a Jeffrey Richard’s led show to end this way. He’s a rather reputable producer and if he can’t find the investors for one of his shows how could anyone else??"

I’m not. He’s experienced — but stretched thin this season. NA, Our Town, MHE, other stuff in the pipeline… I just don’t think it was smart for him to bring this right now. No one has unlimited money and resources.


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#100

Darren Criss and Helen J Shen Will Lead MAYBE HAPPY ENDING on Broadway

Richards has never lead-produced a successful new musical (American Psycho, Bridges of Madison County, Bonnie & Clyde, and Bloody Bloody A J were all big flops). It looks like his past 8 lead-producing efforts were all financial flops, and I doubt Our Town is gonna light the box office ablaze. He was also behind Pal Joey at Encores, Wholesale at Classic Stage, and now Table 17 at MCC; I doubt those shows will transfer, meaning those investors have no chance of seeing a return. All that plus the current climate for new musicals can lead to a weary investor pool.

Maybe it’s a Joe Biden/Donald Trump situation where an 80ish year-old white producer isn’t the right fit for 2024 Broadway or for this material? There could be an interesting case study about people like Richards, Daryl Roth (upcoming Left on Tenth), Ira Pittelman (recent flop Tommy), Bill Haber (upcoming Boop), Bob Wankel (Shubert Org), and Andre Bishop (LCT), who perhaps have lost touch with Broadway buyers. But then there's people in the 77-85 zone like Barry Weissler, Jack O'Brien, and Lynn Meadow who have largely adapted with the times.

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