"'FOSSE/VERDON' COMING TO FX" — Page 11

I get asthma attacks just watching all of Fosse's smoking .

Aside from giving a different and appropriately harsh perspective of Fosse's 'womanizing,' the episode was hamstrung by the problem that I always thought it would have: All That Jazz. Attempts to ape the film just remind me of how much more interesting, creative and self-lacerating the thinly-disguised character of Bob Fosse was than the Fosse in this episode.

The Gwen Verdon material, aside from being elevated by Michelle Williams' marvelous performance, benefits from being less familiar - at least to me. And Verdon didn't already film an unflattering if self-aggrandizing version of her own story during this time period.

BK is wrong, however, All That Jazz is not the elephant in the room. It is the elephant and also the tiger and lion chomping at the story, threatening to swallow up the TV series - because, Fosse did some of this already and did it better - more focused, more intimate and even more charming. In this week's episode when he is criticizing the dancer who kneed him (Fact check says it was Jennifer Naim-Smith, but I thought I heard "Fosse" use the name Sherry and there was a Cheryl Clark in the original cast), but in All That Jazz, Gideon heavily criticizes "Victoria" in a crueler fashion, but then has that intimate talk about making her a better dancer.

Slate's Fact Check Kind of skimpy fact check this week. At first, I was confused by the order of Tony, Oscar, Emmy - but I did check and, wow, the Tony Awards were handed out in March of 1973. When did the "season" switch to May 1 to May 1 and awards in June. I speculate TV had something to do with re-setting the date of the awards?

Also, I don't think Ann Reinking was in the original Manson Trio. But, then the episode just had her dancing in rehearsal, not in the show itself.

I did not find the episode thrilling. I felt like I was watching a music video. Kudos for trying to integrate the Pippin music into his downfall but I do not think it was fully successful. I was hoping to see a full production number preferably the opening. Again Williams was wonderful.

I give major kudos to Nicole for letting the creators show all the messy sides of her parents. I wonder what it's like for her to watch it all.

Nicole has stated that ALL THAT JAZZ was her dad’s romanticizing his life. Now as a woman in her mid-50s, she’s fully aware of her dad’s predator ways, especially in the current #MeToo era. Having Michelle as Gwen “switch on” were Nicole’s character notes as she says her mother always tried to make things brighter and sunnier than they were. She was guarded from her dad’s constant depression bouts and Gwen always made sure to enter a room with a cheerful deposition so everything always appeared to be perfect.

Well, Fosse was 60 when he died, se he'd be in his 90's now and even w the advent of Viagra I don't think he's really be up to much. BUT I think all his past indiscretions would be coming back to haunt him.

BrodyFosse may know better but as far as I know, Paddy Chayefsky and Fosse really were very close as was Buddy Hackett. I know, strange bedfellows (sic).

Nicole Fosse did an interview and said that Joan Simon was Gwen's best friend and Nicole insisted they show Joan Simon in the series. Nicole grew up calling her "Aunt Joan".

kofler22 said: "Will they be covering the golden era? aka New girl in town, Redhead and Charity?"

I wish I can answer this. The series is done in a non-linear narrative so who’s to say they won’t devote an episode on the period where Bob Fosse started merging into directing, which happened with NEW GIRL IN TOWN and REDHEAD? They’ve been showing many of their career highlights, even in glimpses so anything is possible at this point. I do know Debbie Allen is being portrayed and she starred in the 1986 revival of SWEET CHARITY so there could be a long section devoted to that show.

I hope so! Gwen´s glory days deserve to be portray!

Her glory days were entirely with Bob Fosse so it merits to be seen. I would love for them to show her days assisting Jack Cole in Hollywood. She coached many actresses like Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell in GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDES, among many others. Then she left all that behind to start her own career on Broadway.

CHICAGO is being covered and Bianca Marroquin finally has her moments as Chita Rivera. The original 1975 CHICAGO set design was recreated with the help of the original set designer Tony Walton. He also helped in the recreation of his set design for the ALL THAT JAZZ finale recreation. We still have 4 episodes to go so I’m sure we’ll see more goodies.

Again I’ll say it — we’re lucky this is an 8-part series and not that 2 hour film bio HBO had announced with director Bryan Singer. None of what we’re seeing in FOSSE/VERDON would have been possible in a 2 hour film. That’s roughly 2 1/2 episodes of FOSSE/VERDON.

BrodyFosse123 said: "CHICAGO is being covered and Bianca Marroquin finally has her moments as Chita Rivera. The original 1975 CHICAGO set design was recreated with the help of the original set designer Tony Walton. He also helped in the recreation of his set design for the ALL THAT JAZZ finale recreation. We still have 4 episodes to go so I’m sure we’ll see more goodies.

Again I’ll say it — we’re lucky this is an 8-part series and not that 2 hour film bio HBO had announced with director Bryan Singer. None of what we’re seeing in FOSSE/VERDON would have been possible in a 2 hour film. That’s roughly 2 1/2 episodes of FOSSE/VERDON."

This is true...but of all the relationships I want to see is the formation and dynamic between Fosse and Ann Reinking.....that relationship must have affected Verdon the most and I want to see that unfold....