I was more bothered by the fact that Hurwitz opted not to thank people when he accepted the award for Original Score but then started rattling off names after winning for Original Song while Pasek and Paul were still making their way to the stage, thereby cutting into Pasek and Paul's time to speak.
madela2 said: "Hold on, do Pasek and Paul have an Emmy or will they be in contention for one shortly? "
They have written a song for Supergirl but no one has heard it yet or knows what its competition will be, so to say they have a good chance of winning an Emmy for it is a little premature.
LMM: Emmy winner, 2x Grammy winner, 3x Tony winner, Oscar nomination (no win).
Pasek and Paul: Oscar winners. Previous Tony nominations, and very likely to be nominees/winners this year. Grammy nomination also likely for DEH cast recording. No Emmy nomination to date.
It's anybody's guess.
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froote said: "madela2 said: "Hold on, do Pasek and Paul have an Emmy or will they be in contention for one shortly? "
They have written a song for Supergirl but no one has heard it yet or knows what its competition will be, so to say they have a good chance of winning an Emmy for it is a little premature.
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Ahhh, ok. Thanks, everyone.
What seems closer to reality is Viola. Let's get her a nice book of poetry to do an audiobook for or something.
It would be a true shame if P&P did not win the Tony this year. Their score is beautiful and heart wrenching. While Comet is indeed inventive and interesting -- that doesn't mean it's good. Most of the lyrics come straight from the book, and while that's cool, that's again not the same as being worthy of awards. And while some of the music is lovely (like No One Else), the good parts are few and far between. Comet will probably win a lot because it's such an interesting spectacle but that spectacle I feel is distracting people from its being not actually very good.
I loved Dear Evan Hansen just like any other theater nerd, but Great Comet's music is really really good. I'd be equally happy with either of those shows taking home the best music/lyrics award. I don't think we need to bring other good shows down to justify our love for a particular good show.
Caption: Every so often there was a rare moment of perfect balance when I soared above him.
Love P&P's music, loved DEH, enjoyed La La Land and wanted to root for Hurwitz who is a "local boy". Had never heard the song from Moana until last night and think Lin was truly robbed. The man in general is a genius and while I'm not saying it's anything close to Lin's musical theater work, that song was significantly better than "City of Stars". I had a feeling Lin wouldn't win but was bummed out nonetheless, especially with the PEGOT riding on it.
I don't think they have one yet, but they will be eligible to be nominated in September for their upcoming contributions to the FLASH/SUPERGIRL musical episodes. (Final cut pending, of course.)
So it's completely 100% possible that they could win their EGOT all within the span of 12 months. The Emmy will be probably be the trickiest since CW shows are not necessarily known for being Emmy bait.
I'm also pulling for Great Comet for Best Score, though I'm a Pasek & Paul fan in general. I think they deserved an Emmy for their work on Smash. And I have little doubt that they (as well as LMM) will be EGOTs before too long.
They received a Daytime Emmy nomination in 2015 for their song "Unlimited" in the category of Outstanding Special Class--Short Format Daytime Program, for a 2014 Old Navy back-to-school campaign.
At this rate, I won’t be surprised if Pasek and Paul nabs the EGOT first. It frustrates me to no end, because, although I do think they are talented composers, their scores and lyrics are absolutely nothing special and quite repetitive. They are just brilliant in pandering to the mainstream audience AND finding collaborators whose works are much better than theirs (Chazelle for ‘La La Land’; Levenson’s book for DEH). And, yes, Lin has the PEGOT and that all what truly matters, no matter who gets there first.
Excuse me while I now scream to an empty void while slowly accepting the fact Dave Malloy’s work will never be appreciated.
To the original question posed in this thread: the current record for fastest EGOT is Robert Lopez, in 10 years. Lin won his first Tony in 2008, and since he is not nominated for a 2018 Academy Award, he is out of the running for that particular record.
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Out of Pasek and Paul's work I had now so far seen La La Land Greatest Showman and Christmas Story Live. Miranda In the Heights Secret Life of Timothy Green and Moana. Cannot compare really but I am playfully jealous for those who saw their latest Broadway ventures.
Yes, it's silly to respond to a comment from almost a year ago, but Justin Hurwitz did the right thing at the Oscars by starting to talk before Pasek and Paul got to the stage. The clock starts when the names are read, not when they get to the stage. If he had waited, they would have had even less time.
I don't think the Moana song was all that great, but City of Stars isn't all that either.
theater_tech said: "At this rate, I won’t be surprised if Pasek and Paul nabs the EGOT first. It frustrates me to no end, because, although I do think they are talented composers, their scores and lyrics are absolutely nothing special and quite repetitive. They are just brilliant in pandering to the mainstream audience AND finding collaborators whose works are much better than theirs (Chazelle for ‘La La Land’; Levenson’s book for DEH). And, yes, Lin has the PEGOT and that all what truly matters, no matter who gets there first.
Excuse me while I now scream to an empty void while slowly accepting the fact Dave Malloy’s work will never be appreciated."
I disagree I don’t think Levinson’s book is all that strong tbh.
broadwaynerdnewbie said: "theater_tech said: "At this rate, I won’t be surprised if Pasek and Paul nabs the EGOT first. It frustrates me to no end, because, although I do think they are talented composers, their scores and lyrics are absolutely nothing special and quite repetitive. They are just brilliant in pandering to the mainstream audience AND finding collaborators whose works are much better than theirs (Chazelle for ‘La La Land’; Levenson’s book for DEH). And, yes, Lin has the PEGOT and that all what truly matters, no matter who gets there first.
Excuse me while I now scream to an empty void while slowly accepting the fact Dave Malloy’s work will never be appreciated."
I disagree I don’t think Levinson’s book is all that strong tbh."
I actually do think Levenson's book is pretty strong, but I do agree that it is the collaboration with Pasek and Paul that really benefitted he material and that Levenson's book benefited from their work (the coffee table book really makes that clear to me). No comment on their work on La La Land, but for DEH I don't think Levenson carried them at all
ETA: I agree absolutely, though, that Pasek and Paul's work can be... Like that. But if people like it- they like it, and I think that's something special, too. I do think P&P may get the EGOT first as well, and it will be deserved for creating music people like so much. Lin achieving the PEGOT is what will set them apart, not the and speed at which P&P will get their EGOT, although TBH I think is also just another mark of their people-pleasing music! They're not gonna win the pulitzer, but they're making fun music that people enjoy and is that not worth reward?