I just looked at my playbill and you're correct. It is definitely a stamp.
Here's a pic:
"But, would it be worse if she ... pointed out in front of the crowd that "everyone signed it, except mine is stamped" and, therefore, didn't make as much for the charity because people didn't want a stamp of her autograph?"
So, your point is that it was better to mislead people who thought Fran had personally signed it, since it was for charity?! If the signing is why people buy it, you can't mislead them to increase donations.
"but I think if i had things my way I would make her sit down and resign everything so she can get sore wrists like the rest of those who took the time."
You're ridiculous. She has a life! She owes you nothing! Please get a life, and realize there are real problems in the world.
LOL- it was a joke hence the LOL after it.
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Yet you took the time to post.
Enough with your "yet you took the time to post" crap. You act like it takes three and a half days to post a damn picture to call you on your nonsense.
I mean, if you really don't care, then why even give it the time of day- seems odd to me.
I agree this is some dumb thread. And yes, I took the time to type out this comment in it. How else am I going to say that I think it's stupid if I don't say it?
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You act like it takes three and a half days to post a damn picture to call you on your nonsense.
Not for nothing but look at his photo.
Oh, um, LOL.
" and the fact that it is still her signature, stamp or not - is the actively pointing out onstage that her signature is stamped worth it for the loss of money for the charity?"
Lol the fact that you can identify that if she was honest the charity might have made less money highlights how ethically dubious this situation is. I for one think deceiving people into paying for something they think they are getting when they are not is wrong, no matter what the cause.
First, I don’t think anyone believes they are deceiving anyone. As has been pointed out, stamps are still signatures and can still “count” as her signing the posters. This is possibly why Fran didn’t “fess up” to it in the first place – she probably thought she didn’t have anything to fess up to. But, to insist that it be pointed out that Fran’s signature is stamped instead of signed (something that will likely come off like a disclaimer as opposed to just a distinction for those who care about such things)for that handful of people who do feel there is a difference in legitimacy between stamping a signature and handwriting a signature I think might cause people who otherwise wouldn’t care (or even given it a thought as to whether they cared if the signature was hand-written or stamped) to think they should care and could prevent them from buying it.
For those autograph collectors that feel there is a difference in the legitimacy of the signature, I understand the frustration. I just don’t think it’s worth all of this and worth the possible loss of money by pointing it out (and therefore, possibly making people feel like they should care about the difference, too, when they otherwise wouldn’t).
For the record, I didn't type out this post. I stamped it! LMAO!
I see lots of posts about autopenning and people equate it to artists not respecting their fans. This couldnt be farther from the truth. Do people think Bette, Fran, Dolly, Angela, etc have time to sit around and sign things? Nope-they are working their tails off.
Bette signed things at the stage door every night, AFAIK. I got her to sign a poster after a show and she was delightful. Now, whether that was desire or a line item in her contract, who knows?
It's different when you are talking something that is going for Charity.
"for that handful of people who do feel there is a difference in legitimacy between stamping a signature and handwriting a signature I think might cause people who otherwise wouldn’t care (or even given it a thought as to whether they cared if the signature was hand-written or stamped) to think they should care and could prevent them from buying it. "
Do you actually think this is the minority? Maybe it's common knowledge for people who actually collect signed memorabilia (I don't know), but every person I have told this Fran Drescher story to (who don't care about theatre, Fran Drescher or signed memorabilia) laugh because it is seems ridiculous/unexpected.
And you're absolutely right that telling them might cause them to care, and this is exactly what being completely open and honest about the product they are getting is about. It concerns me that people here think it is ok to rip people off if it's for charity, lol.
"Now, whether that was desire or a line item in her contract, who knows?"
Can actors really be contractually obliged to stage door? Are there some known examples of that?
"Can actors really be contractually obliged to stage door? Are there some known examples of that?"
It was hinted at in a Riedel* column or somesuch, that not every gracious actor at the stage door was that excited to do it, but contracted to sign some things every show.
I don't have any specific reference/example, but he did make it during last season if that helps any... Pacino? Hanks? Midler? No clue.
(*I believe it was Riedel, but I could be wrong)
How can you be over something that you never cared about in the first place? LOL
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