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#226

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The New York Post and other news outlets reported a few weeks ago that the advance was "low" - under $3 million. That reserve can go very very fast if the show is not meeting its weekly running costs.

I don't know about papering services, but They've been offering lots of comps throughout the industry (all the unions) and to businesses like Google and Yahoo who have young hip employees with social influencing presence. And don't get me wrong, I think that's the smart thing for them to do.

I didn't care for the show, and I agree with Dame it won't last very long on Broadway, but I certainly don't wish it any ill will. I'm fascinated by people on the boards who take a show's wellbeing so personally.

Updated On: 3/24/17 at 07:19 PM

#227

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I don't take anything personally.



and calling you a liar doesn't change anything since you never saw what you claim you did.

#228

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This thread is making it sooo hard to predict whether GROUNDHOG DAY will be a success or not... I feel like there are fans and haters... but signs are pointing to flop territory right now...

Better get all my ANDY KARL loving in now, just like ROCKY... Sigh... at least my husband is back from vacation LOL!!!


"See that poster on the wall? Rocky Marciano." - Andy Karl as Rocky in 'ROCKY'
#229

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Dang, having some buyers remorse right now. Bought tickets at full price based on the London reviews and the fact I loved the movie. I am happy with all my show choices for trip in May but I was a bit worried about this choice, and I guess my worry seems to be justified. Ah well......is what it is.

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Wait, this past Tuesday? That is when I saw the show, I was first row mezzanine, and I know for a fact my row and the entire orchestra (as much as I could see of it) gave the show a standing ovation. Arms crossed? That's ridiculous. People seemed to really enjoy it. I wish it luck.

#231

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Hey Margo, glad to hear you enjoyed it. What was the view like from your seats? I have tickets for dead centre 2nd row mezz.....

#232

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Have listened to cabaret version of Karl doing "Seeing You." He's quite wonderful. I just can't fall in love with "Seeing You" otherwise. Though its failure to land is mysterious, because the performance is so winning. Is it powerful in the show? I wanted so to love it. I'm assuming it's the 11 o'clock spot.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
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canadian fan said: "Hey Margo, glad to hear you enjoyed it. What was the view like from your seats? I have tickets for dead centre 2nd row mezz.....

Perfect seats. Close but far enough away you can see the whole lovely picture. Enjoy the hell out of the show!!

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Spoilers?



Seeing You is the finale song. It starts as just his solo but becomes a group number as it progresses. And maybe I'm alone on this, but the harmonies of the end chorus ("I'm here, I'm fine..."GROUNDHOG DAY Previews is one of the most glorious sounds on Broadway right now.

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Okay I saw the show this week. I actually liked it; however, it's too long. If they trim act 1 n take out Nancy's song it would be better. There is no reason for the show to be 2 hours and 45 min.

Andy is very good in the role

Yes the music was better in Matilda but there are some good melodies here.

i don't see why people are fighting over standing ovations no one cares. When I went some stood up some didn't.

again, main issue with show is length . Besides that is a passable show and a good nite .

#236

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"I don't understand the hate for this show."



It's the easiest thing in the world to understand. It's godawful--- and then some!

#237

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After Eight said: ""I don't understand the hate for this show."



It's the easiest thing in the world to understand. It's godawful--- and then some!




There is nothing likable about it. Pure crap and not theatrical at all. Doesn't belong on Broadway. Maybe it belongs at some touristy crappy Universal Studios attraction.


"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-
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muscle23ftl said: "After Eight said: ""I don't understand the hate for this show."



It's the easiest thing in the world to understand. It's godawful--- and then some!




There is nothing likable about it. Pure crap and not theatrical at all. Doesn't belong on Broadway. Maybe it belongs at some touristy crappy Universal Studios attraction.




"

The show is brilliant. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but don't knock others for sharing theirs.

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GreasedLightning said: "muscle23ftl said: "After Eight said: ""I don't understand the hate for this show."



It's the easiest thing in the world to understand. It's godawful--- and then some!




There is nothing likable about it. Pure crap and not theatrical at all. Doesn't belong on Broadway. Maybe it


belongs at some touristy crappy Universal Studios attraction.



"

The show is brilliant. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but don't knock others for sharing theirs.




Sorry for my tough critic, if you like it, then great for you! Actually I think Comet was even worse. I just sometimes feel disrespected as an audience when I pay big bucks for stuff I loathe.


"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-
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Since you loathe nearly everything, you should stop going to the theater. You'd be happier, as would the board.



As to 2/3 the audience refusing to clap? Pure horsepuckey, never happened. Might of believed that many people staying seated, but unless it's a Monty Python sketch about the "ministry of folded arms" it didn't happen.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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muscle23ftl said: "Actually I think Comet was even worse. I just sometimes feel disrespected as an audience when I pay big bucks for stuff I loathe."

Wow, if it's down there with Comet, then I can't wait to see it!!! GROUNDHOG DAY Previews

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I have to confess to being rather mystified by the responses to this show.

I saw it twice at the Old Vic - once in very early previews and once closer to the end of the run. Honestly, the only reason I went back because I read the reviews after opening and assumed they had made significant, seismic changes to the show, because what I had seen was a total mess. I was wrong, the show was more or less identical.

I really wish I could understand the praise here. To my mind, the score is weak and just a jumble of novelty numbers (of the type Minchin writes well), the design is cumbersome and incoherent (does it still have those silhouette borders along the top and bottom of the stage?) and the storytelling unfocused. I agree with many here that the second act is stronger - the darker elements are where the show shines, and those are drawn out quite nicely but then just fade away again for a sentimental finish. Don't get me wrong, I love a happy ending but it feels so unearned here. Despite Andy Karl's best efforts, and he is very good, the writing doesn't support the character development required for him to become the Phil of the final 20 minutes. His ending with Rita should be a really glorious moment of resolution and triumph, but to me it just sort of happened without any satisfaction.

I also think you can really feel how long the piece has been in development by Warchus and Minchin - and not in a good way. It feels to me like in the beginning, they had an entirely different approach: one that focused on the townsfolk as much as on Phil. To me that would be fascinating - to look at all these people stuck in their own ruts and the loops they can't escape in their own lives. You get a glimpse of this in the act one finale (I think?) and of course the gorgeous Nancy song at the top of act two. But this really interesting approach is then militated against by the insistence on focusing on Phil and Rita. It's as if what they had tried wasn't working, so they scrapped most of it and went for the conventional love story angle, but some residue of GHD Mk. 1 is left over, and the two fight against each other.

None of this is even to touch on the problems the show has with Rita as a character - assuming her 'I Want' song is still the same, it was basically about how all she needed was a man and when her prince came it would sort everything out. I cannot believe this is enough any more. I was genuinely a bit flabbergasted by it. I get that Phil is a misogynist and the defects of a character don't speak to the creators - but to approach the leading female role in the show with such an old-fashioned, reductive view on women's aspirations is not terrific.

Lastly there's the weakness of the score. Think about what a more skilled composer of scores (which is not Minchin's strength, he is a songwriter) could have done with the recursive motif. I went in expecting real cleverness and intricacy, something that took advantage of the unique opportunity this property presents to do something musically inventive and impactful - obviously I did not get that. The Doctors Song, The Truck Song, The Tap Number (with that giant groundhog playing the drums, are you joking) - they don't add up to anything or tell that story. So disappointing for me.

So yeah I was massively underwhelmed, as my hopes were very high given the calibre of everyone involved. I really want to understand what it is that I'm missing; maybe it's down to me for not turning off that hyper-critical part of my brain.

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Great post, Nick.

#244

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Great post Nick, although I only agree with some of it, and yet, I really enjoy the show.



BTW, another tech hold at today's (Saturday 3/25) performance.

#245

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Saw Sweeney Todd. Found it repetitive and the main character was unlikeable. Also not crazy about the score.

Think I'd rather spend my money on GHD. Then again, I didn't get a meat pie.

#246

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"Think I'd rather spend my money on GHD. Then again, I didn't get a meat pie."

The best path would be to avoid both. But yes, as bad as Groundhog Day was ---- and was it ever bad --- it was better (but then, what isn't?) than that odious, grotesque, appallingly ugly horror show called Sweeney Todd.

#247

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I heard they had to stop the show again last night. anybody there?

#248

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I caught this yesterday and really enjoyed it. It's nothing groundbreaking, but I found plenty to like. I thought the score was quite catchy, but it never reached the level of brilliance that Matilda's score did. The set design was great, and they made excellent use of the turntables. The true highlight of the show is Andy Karl who is turning in a truly stellar performance. The show ran two hours and 45 minutes, and I think they need to cut off at least 15 minutes. Overall, though, this was quite fun.


"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
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Yes - they stopped during the drinking/car chase scene, for about 5-10 minutes. I thought the song was really entertaining, so I was actually a little happy to get to see (the first half) of it again. It was also fun because audience clapped and cheered a lot the second time around.

Overall I enjoyed the show, though I agree with some previous posters that it was a bit too long and some parts were unnecessary or didn't seem to fit into the show (such as the Doctor song, Nancy song). The character development also fell a little short to me. I thought Andy Karl was absolutely fantastic, but the way his arc went, I got the feeling that the writers were sheepish about having to present such a...character...as Phil Collins. They kind of tried to paper over his personality with tentative-but-not-really feminism from Rita (and a little bit Nancy), which would have been interesting and added some complexity to Rita and Phil's relationship and characters, but the writers didn't fully commit to it. A lot of Rita's songs were just repetitive and followed the "I'm strong, but I'm vulnerable" type. Phil's redemption didn't really happen until a sudden change halfway through the second act. (I can't remember how it was done in the movie, as I only watched it once, in high school, so maybe they were just staying true to the movie?) I actually think if they just tightened the focus on Phil, the redemption theme would have been much more satisfying.

Edit: I promise, despite that paragraph of criticism, that I did like the show. There are some neat stage tricks, and I think the repetitive scenes were really well done and interesting, even though there were a lot of them.

Updated On: 3/26/17 at 11:15 AM

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NickMorrison25 said: "...I love a happy ending but it feels so unearned here. Despite Andy Karl's best efforts, and he is very good, the writing doesn't support the character development required for him to become the Phil of the final 20 minutes. His ending with Rita should be a really glorious moment of resolution and triumph, but to me it just sort of happened without any satisfaction..."

I finally got my second viewing in last night. I don't agree
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Part of why you feel might feel that way is the non-linear way time works in the show. His break comes when he spends one day with a concerned Rita, and with her observation that he's the lucky one since he gets to change--everyone else is stuck being the same. From that point, until the final iteration it must have been thousands of days, even though we only see a few as he becomes more selfless. How do we know--the piano teacher tells us "it takes people thousands of hours to master this", which he does an hour or two in a day by the end.

I also really like the way they use secondary characters. Here Ned Ryerson is no longer just a comic foil as in the movie. He has his own related story (his song - Night will come). In the movie you feel that any rapprochement between Ned and Phil is just an expediency to get Ned to stop bothering him. Here, Ned is a more fully realized sympathetic character

Nancy, and her song, looks like a throwaway, but joins in with the story of Larry who, wearing a shirt that Phil helped him pick out, and that is a perfect reflection of him, picks up Nancy and they seemingly end up dancing for hours (unlike in the movie).



Oh, and as I told Tim at last nights show. Loved the allusion/paraphrase to Resume by Dorothy Parker that Phil recites when listing off his suicide attempts.

Updated On: 3/27/17 at 11:30 AM

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