HAMILTON's Digital Lottery--Just for the Winter- Page 7

[Hellob]

Posted: 1/5/16 at 9:59pm

gypsy101 said: "Hellob said: "I'm not suing anyone lol but like other person said, crazier things have been sued over. It's a contest and everyone should be able to enter otherwise it's not a fair contest. All you would need is a bunch of clients and proof of being unable to enter during the time period. The main issue is proving damages since it's a $10 ticket but if I were Nederlander, I'd go back to the old version until I had a server as big as the earth bc  this could turn into a mess."

 

 

 

That would be like all those people who tried to buy tickets to see Adele trying to sue because they had all those problems with long wait times and server issues. I would understand that more for things like emotional duress, since that was more of a once in several years opportunity to see her. But this Hamilton lottery will happen every day, and I'm pretty sure you don't pay unless you win the tickets, so no one will lose out on anything by not winning.

 

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That's different bc this is a contest not a sales thing, contests have different rules to ensure "fair play". But anyway, someone already pointed out a line in the fine print that protects them. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/5/16 at 10:06pm

I didn't see the rules. They didn't restrict it to New York state residents only, like the Mormon twitter lotto does?

[mybigsplash]

Posted: 1/5/16 at 10:35pm

When the Public Theater was going digital lottery for hamilton they were getting 7000 entrants a day. It makes perfect sense that this digital lottery would get 50,000 entrants regularly. Everyone who lives within 3 hours of the city can enter and arrive in time. Think of the thousands of people who work until 6pm, and could never attend a lottery in person, but can now enter digitally. Digital lotteries are detrimental to those who make the concerted effort to visit the theatre and enter.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 5:27am

mybigsplash said: Digital lotteries are detrimental to those who make the concerted effort to visit the theatre and enter.

 

Well that's not really a fair way to look at things. For those of us who do have jobs it's isn't about not wanting to make a concerted effort to visit the theater and enter but about responsibility to our jobs.

 

It must be nice to have a job with an unorthodox schedule and have the luxury to go down the theater in person but some of have traditional working hours and can't so the digital lottery offers us the opportunity to participate. 

 

 

 

[gypsy101]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 5:49am

mybigsplash said: "Think of the thousands of people who work until 6pm, and could never attend a lottery in person, but can now enter digitally. Digital lotteries are detrimental to those who make the concerted effort to visit the theatre and enter."

 

Just because someone works until 6 PM doesn't mean that they don't deserve enter the lottery to see the show. The world's schedule doesn't revolve around the show's lottery. I think making it digital makes it much more fair to everyone involved.

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[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 8:35am

I understand why people hate digital lottos, but for me, I do work until 6 but about 8 blocks away. So, I can easily enter, and if I win, I can easily pick up the tickets and go to the show. I think a lot of people may be entering without thinking that last part through.

[Elder Katt]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 9:39am

Interestingly (and perhaps slightly OT), a friend of mine posted about the debacle on FB. Another of her friends posted a comment that she had attended the show last night and the front row was full, speculating that they sold them to the cancellation line after all.  Anyone know for sure?

[dramamama611]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 9:40am

A concerted effort?  That's laughable. Are you suggesting that folks should be irresponsible and not go to work on any given day because they want to see a show for a reasonable amount of money?  

 

[gypsy101]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 9:45am

Elder Katt said: "Interestingly (and perhaps slightly OT), a friend of mine posted about the debacle on FB. Another of her friends posted a comment that she had attended the show last night and the front row was full, speculating that they sold them to the cancellation line after all.  Anyone know for sure?"

 

Hm that would be very strange since they specifically said they wouldn't be selling them at all. Maybe they moved some people down from the mezzanine or something like that. I can't see why they would post that online and then still sell them.

Updated On: 1/6/16 at 09:45 AM

[ChildofEarth]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 9:52am

They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved.

[Elder Katt]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 9:55am

ChildofEarth said: "They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved"

OK, that's much more fair than selling them. (Though I wonder, then, if they sold off the seats people moved from?) My friend's comment and I agree was that she didn't envy the staff there. It must have been a trying day.

[Hellob]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 10:29am

ChildofEarth said: "They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved.

 

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So what happened to those seats? Did they go to cancellation line people or stay empty?

[ChildofEarth]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 10:42am

Hellob said: "ChildofEarth said: "They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved.

 

 

 

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So what happened to those seats? Did they go to cancellation line people or stay empty?

 

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From what I understand, the ushers moved people who were in seats where their view or comfort was a problem - ie bigger people were given end seats in the front row, people who were short and behind tall people were moved. According to my friend (I wasn't there) those seats remained empty.

[Hellob]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 10:49am

ChildofEarth said: "Hellob said: "ChildofEarth said: "They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So what happened to those seats? Did they go to cancellation line people or stay empty?

 

 

 

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From what I understand, the ushers moved people who were in seats where their view or comfort was a problem - ie bigger people were given end seats in the front row, people who were short and behind tall people were moved. According to my friend (I wasn't there) those seats remained empty.

 

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I would imagine the cast didn't want it empty, it would be weird for them. That's cool for those people! What a great day to be chubby or short!!!

[TrChSpHa]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 11:15am

Pretty much anyone with standing room tickets.

[macnyc]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 11:16am

Did they even sell standing room? The SRO spots are usually part of the lottery process.

[serene_embers]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 11:40am

Hellob said: "ChildofEarth said: "Hellob said: "ChildofEarth said: "They moved people within the theater, according to a friend who was there and tried her hardest to get moved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So what happened to those seats? Did they go to cancellation line people or stay empty?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From what I understand, the ushers moved people who were in seats where their view or comfort was a problem - ie bigger people were given end seats in the front row, people who were short and behind tall people were moved. According to my friend (I wasn't there) those seats remained empty.

 

 

 

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I would imagine the cast didn't want it empty, it would be weird for them. That's cool for those people! What a great day to be chubby or short!!!

 

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My friend saw this happening, too.  She was in the third row, though, so she didn't even try to get moved.

 

[Sorry-Grateful]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 12:02pm

I think the in-person vs. digital lotto debate boils down to this:

 

People who are able to attend the in-person lotto (at least occasionally) hate the digital lotto because it increases the number of lotto entrants by an incredible amount and greatly reduces their personal odds of winning. Their odds of winning with the in-person lotto are much higher than the digital lotto, even with the in-person lotto being as crowded as it is. So this digital lotto has decreased their chance of winning.

 

People who are unable to attend the in-person lotto love the digital lotto because it gives them a chance to win (no matter how low that chance is). So their odds of winning the Hamilton lotto went from 0% to some small decimal point percentage--an increase.

 

This is the conflict at play here: In-person lotto goers are LOSING something they once had (in this case, better winning odds), and the non in-person lotto goers are GAINING something they have not had in the past (a chance to enter at all). When the lotto switches back to in-person in the spring, these roles will switch. 

 

[uncageg]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 12:38pm

Looks like it is switching back today. There will be 2 live lotteries today.

[haterobics]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 12:41pm

macnyc said: "Did they even sell standing room? The SRO spots are usually part of the lottery process."

 

Any *remaining* SRO tickets are part of the lottery, which would mean everyone with SRO last night was connected to someone with the show, making them prime candidates for an upgrade.

[Patty3]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 1:17pm

I was very happy that Hamilton was moving to a digital lottery. We were there on Saturday and the lottery line for the evening show was up 46th St and around the Marriott Marquis and down 45th. We thought that people must have been there since 3 PM if you were in the front of the line. I would rather wait on the cancellation line - I think your chances of actually getting a ticket would be better. I have never won an in person lottery but have won several digital lotteries (Fun Home, Something Rotten, and Allegiance). I don't enter all the time - only when I know I will be in the city. 

[Hellob]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 2:38pm

LizzieCurry said: "I didn't see the rules. They didn't restrict it to New York state residents only, like the Mormon twitter lotto does?

 

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No, there was just a blanket "we have right to..." that pretty much covers them in cases like yesterday. 

[BroadwayGuy12]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 2:48pm

haterobics said: "Any *remaining* SRO tickets are part of the lottery, which would mean everyone with SRO last night was connected to someone with the show, making them prime candidates for an upgrade."

 

My friend and I waited on the cancellation line last night, just to see how everything went down. We were told that the front row seats were begin offered to those who had SRO tickets, and that those were all friends/family of those involved with the show. None of the front row seats intended for the lotto were sold to the cancellation line, nor were any SRO spots that were now open due to those people being moved to the front row.

[Glittergrrl]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 11:37pm

Do we know what's up for Thursday? Are they going to try digital again?  I haven't seen anything on fb.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 1/6/16 at 11:47pm

Non-digital for the rest of the week. https://twitter.com/HamiltonMusical/status/684951027875995648