#26
Posted: 3/29/18 at 12:43am
Has anyone ever admitted that a show flopped on here?
If you could revive any Broadway flop? — Page 2
#27
Posted: 3/29/18 at 3:24am
haterobics said: "Has anyone ever admitted that a show flopped on here?"
All the time...but it's usually met with derision.
My pick: Scottsboro Boys.
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#28
Posted: 3/29/18 at 3:39am
More to the point, is there anyone here who was born prior to 1990 who may be aware there were shows before that date, and some rather infamous flops?
#29
Posted: 3/29/18 at 7:42am
Speaking for those born well before 1990, I nominate
RAGS
THE RINK
STEEL PIER
THE SECRET GARDEN (happy to hear this one is getting a real revival soon).
#32
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:36am
Hmmmm 1776, I Can Get It For You Wholesale, and The Pirate Queen come to mind.
#33
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:40am
Although I'd like to maintain some semblance of neutrality here, the very thought of The Pirate Queen's revival numbs me.
#34
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:41am
Flora The Red Menace- but Liza would have to be 18 again. I loved that show as a kid.
#35
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:49am
TRIUMPH OF LOVE in a small off-Broadway house
#36
==> this board is a nest of vipers <==
"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:52am
The Woman in White
Groundhog Day
American Psycho
Sunset Boulevard (the original production, which was only a flop in that it didn't recoup)
"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage
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#37
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:55am
I'm also a fan of I Can Get it for you Wholesale. The leading man's arc crests a little too early. The women get some great songs in act two, but the lead needs an 11o'clock number before his big decision. (They also need to agree on what that decision is. In one rewrite he betrays his friend. In the other he saves him.)
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#38
Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:55am
markypoo said: "Although I'd like to maintain some semblance of neutrality here, the very thought of The Pirate Queen's revival numbs me."
Lol. Even though I suggested it, I know it was a hot mess :P
#39
Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:15am
I saw the Chicago tryout of The Pirate Queen.
Favorite scene: Stephanie Block giving birth, then leaping up to sword fight with the British.
Favorite lyric: "Where has it been writ / my life should turn to ****?"
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#40
Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:19am
Significant Other, for plays, but aren't most "flops" nowadays? Does Indecent qualify as a flop?
#41
Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:33am
I was expecting to see a slew of Great Comet answers.
Way to prove me wrong BWW!
#42
Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:42am
poisonivy2 said: "Merrily We Roll Along. I stand by my assertion that this was Sondheim's strongest score."
And all you would need to do is contact the Huntington Theatre in Boston to find out who all the creatives were in their incredible production last year. I would never ever ever again want to see the atrociously bad Harold Prince production, but boy would I have loved to have seen the Boston production (which originated in London) a few more times.
As for me, I would probably choose 'Darling go the Day' from 1968. Terrific story, terrific score, terrific role for the leading lady and I suspect the right leading man. Book revisions required, a couple of songs replaced. Ran 4 weeks, despite mixed reviews with quite a few raves. No advance, theatre out of the way, opened in the dead of January (which was admittedly more common in those days). Probably still be a flop, because it is decidedly old-fashioned, but who knows.
#44
Posted: 3/29/18 at 11:02am
Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812. This show really deserved better.
#45
Posted: 3/29/18 at 2:14pm
The original book and score (in original Broadway keys) of Carrie. With solid direction, choreography, and casting, this could be the camp nostalgia trip that Broadway and our country could use. Keep it in the 80's, synthesizers and all, update the effects and have real "blood" drop... and cast either Carolee Carmello, Karen Mason, or Julia Murnie as Carrie's mother, and it will be a hit.
#46
Posted: 3/29/18 at 2:53pm
Addipia94 said: "Hmmmm 1776, I Can GetIt ForYou Wholesale, and The Pirate Queen come to mind."
You think 1776, a show that ran 1,217 performances and three years was a flop? Really?
#47
Posted: 3/29/18 at 3:01pm
I don’t know if this counts but I’d really love to see a financial successful revival of Gypsy, considering the last two failed to recoup their investments.
#48
Posted: 3/29/18 at 3:30pm
Gypsy will never be considered a flop. And why would a financially successful Gypsy be different? The LuPone one was amazing and wouldn't be any different if it had recouped.
I'm so glad to see all the American Psycho love, that was one of my favorites from that season and I'm still mad we never got an American recording as there are significant differences and Matt Smith is a terrible singer.
I think Tuck Everlasting could succeed, but if it were reworked to a 90 minute no intermission, cut all the Man in the Yellow Suit filler, and just focused on Winnie and the Tucks. The songs she shares with them are the show's strongest, and it would be a popular license for schools.
Updated On: 3/29/18 at 03:30 PM
#49
Posted: 3/29/18 at 3:53pm
bk said: "Addipia94 said: "Hmmmm 1776, I Can GetIt ForYou Wholesale, and The Pirate Queen come to mind."
You think 1776, a show that ran 1,217 performances and three years was a flop? Really?"
Sorry, I was thinking of when it played at the Roundabout in 1997, but I realize now that was a limited engagement anyway!
#50
Posted: 3/29/18 at 4:25pm
Rainah said: "What are you defining as a flop, before I answer?
- didn't recoup?
-played less than X number of performances?
- critical miss?"
- didn't recoup?
-played less than X number of performances?
- critical miss?"
Yes, this. I think it's easy to pick out shows that didn't recoup that are still artistically valid.
As far as shows that I consider "real" flops, I don't think Good Vibrations or Doctor Zhivago should be revived just for my personal enjoyment... though I wouldn't say no to a bootleg.
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