Is revival the only real Tony race this year?- Page 4

[AlfieByrne]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 2:05pm

pupscotch said: "Best Play should be an interesting category. I've said previously in the thread that I haven't seen Eclipsed, but even between the Humans and King Charles III it is very difficult for me to pick a winner. "

 

I would also keep an eye out for Mtc's production of The Father.

 

[goldenboy]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 2:20pm

To Broadway Concierge:

You mean you haven't questioned the legitimacy of the Tony Committee til now? Not even when Titanic won over The Life? Or Kelli O' Hara for King and I won over Kristin Chenowith for On the 20th Century? or When Catherine Zeta Jones won for A Little Night Music? Or when Stephen Sondheim was denied a best score nomination for Forum??   The list is endless of wrong choices.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 2:33pm

I completely disagree that Jane Krakowski is giving the same performance we've been seeing from her. It's one of the big misconceptions of her career. In terms of her Tony-winning role, Ilona is completely different from Carla. I do think Goldsberry is just marvelous and find the idea that HAMILTON's women are not memorable to be preposterous.

 

Also, I'm not sure what you are talking about, QueenAlice. The men in HAMILTON are classic supporting roles not featured ensemble members. Diggs (who is likely to win), Groff, and Christopher Jackson will all probably and rightfully get in.

[goldenboy]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 2:35pm

"If Goldsberry were not to win Featured Actress, the legitimacy and validity of the entire Tony institution would come into serious question for me."     Broadway Concierge

 

You  mean you didn't question the legitmacy of The Tonys when On the 20th Century lost to King and I last year for best muscial revival? Or when Kelli O'Hara beat Kristen Chenowith last year? Or when the mundane Once and Titanic both won best musicals over better musicals?  Or when Andy Karl lost for everything else he was nominated for? Or when Danny Burstein lost for everything he was nominated for? Or when Kelli 0' Hara lost the many times she should have won only to win the one time she  shouldn't win?   Or when when Catherine Zeta Jones won? Or when Starmites was even nominated for best musical? The list goes on and on.

Trust me. You will question the legiimacy and validity.  And soon.  Awards are a flawed phenomenon.

And in my humble opinion Goldsberry will not win because no one remembers the women  in Hamilton. The only woman I remember from Hamilton is the fierce looking short haired butch blonde female dancer.

Updated On: 3/19/16 at 02:35 PM

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 2:59pm

To each their own- I don't remember all the supporting men, others don't remember the women, though I bet we all remember the staging and the striking material of Hamilton which are the real stars of that show. 

 

I wonder how many voters will have seen Hamilton early in its run? And I wonder if, like the Oscars, there is any advantage (especially performance wise) to opening closer to the Tony Awards in tears of staying fresh in the minds of Tony voters.  For example, if it had opened earlier in the season, I bet Jennifer Simard might not have made the cut, but even though her show is terrible, I have a hunch she will get in: it's one of the most memorable performances of the spring for sure.

Updated On: 3/19/16 at 02:59 PM

[broadwayboy223]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 3:14pm

Featured Actress in Musical will be hard but I hope the actress playing Nettie in Color Purple gets a nomination. She was just as amazing as Cynthia 

[gypsy101]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 3:16pm

goldenboy said: "As for Rene Goldsbury... I don't even remember her in Hamilton. I don't remember much of the woman. It is a man's musical. The key parts are Hamilton, Burr and King George and the women were just there. This was also the case in Something Rotten. You just don't remember the woman.  I think the Color Purple woman will thrive here."

 

I think the term you are looking for is "women." There was more than one woman in those shows.

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 3:31pm

Eek I don't remember the actress playing Nettie at all. I do remember....Renee Elise Goldsberry in the original! 

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 8:25pm

No-one remembers the women in Hamilton? What?

If you don't remember them that's one thing but to claim everyone doesn't is beyond ridiculous. Putting aside Renee's great performance for a second, the last image you see of that show is Eliza alone at the front center of the stage with the spotlight on her. 

The Schuyler Sisters have been one of the main talking points of the show and Lin has been praised for his portrayal of the female characters.

Just a few of the articles that have focused entirely on the women:

http://www.themarysue.com/how-the-hero-of-hamilton-the-musical-is-a-woman/

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-women-of-hamilton

http://amysmartgirls.com/the-women-of-hamilton-making-herstory-on-broadway/

 

[Musical Master]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 10:42pm

It seems that we do have another great revival race after a stellar season last year with 3 revivals that might have the same chance to win.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 3/19/16 at 11:32pm

 

no one remembers the women  in Hamilton

 

Don't be silly. Of course we do. If you don't, you are the only one who doesn't.

 

[DAME]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 4:51pm

The women in Hamilton were fabulous. 

[funhamilton_rent]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 7:47pm

How can you not remember the women in Hamilton? Did you fall asleep? 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 9:03pm

Anybody who "forgot" about these supremely talented ladies should be denied the ability to ever receive a ticket to Hamilton ever again.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 3/20/16 at 11:37pm

Yeah, I sort of feel bad for the person that sees HAMILTON and doesn't remember the women. Lin-Manuel Miranda couldn't have come up with more fascinating renditions of the three women in HAMILTON's than he already did. And the ladies who get to play those roles every night are rocking it at the Richard Rodgers. I certainly hope Soo and Goldsberry both manage to get in.

[CindersGolightly]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 12:01am

I've got to say the opposite. It's the women whom I couldn't forget about. I think the show is good, but was only truly entertained when there was a female on stage. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 12:07am

I wouldn't say I was only "truly" entertained with the women of the show, but I do truly believe they are critically important to making Hamilton Hamilton. Saying you forgot about the women in Hamilton is like saying you saw Wicked and forgot about all the times Elphaba and Glinda were on stage.

[CindersGolightly]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 1:22am

Agreed! And while I certainly think Lin has written far better for the women in his shows before, he could have easily made this show less about the women, which he did not. So I commend him for that in spades.

[yankeefan7]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 8:54am

Like others have mentioned, there will be a bunch of interesting races. The only "lock" would be "Hamilton" winning Best Musical.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 9:33am

yankeefan7 said: "Like others have mentioned, there will be a bunch of interesting races. The only "lock" would be "Hamilton" winning Best Musical."

^ and I'd say Book and Score are locks in their favor, too.

I would even venture to say Director and Choreography, too, but I won't bite off more than I can chew at this juncture

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 10:19am

I really think people are underestimating American Paycho. The show got good reviews in London and they have constantly been rewriting the show to make it perfect. If Walker pulls off this role (he should, he was involved in workshops before the London production) then it's one hell of a role to be nominated for. The crisp and cool set and lighting have a shot as does the choreography and it would be a crime if it doesn't get nominated for Score as it's incredible (I love Hamiltons score but found AS far more exciting and clever). Jen Damiano as well also has a shot in that role at nomination as does the strong book.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 10:27am

I know Hamilton is the one to beat, but it has a lot of competiton for best musical. It will be an interesting race for both which should we gets nominated and who wins.

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 11:33am

In regards to American Psycho, it got mixed-to-positive critical reviews in London. I personally wasn't too impressed with the press preview, but we'll see how it plays out. I already know that it is going to be a very hard sell financially.

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 11:44am

Hamilton has no competition for Best Musical except in a very literal sense. It would be beyond shocking if it didn't win.

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 3/21/16 at 11:59am

Hamilton won't lose Best Musical, Book or Score, but the Tony voters may want to reward some other things in a strong season like this. So some of the tech and performance categories may go elsewhere.