Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
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Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
#25Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/3/18 at 5:40pm
DAME said: "Oh god no! Please not another paired down broadway revival. This show was big ,magical , and very theatrical . That’s the way I want it."
Don't get me wrong, I would also hate a pared down revival on Broadway. This project (some 17 years ago) was to force myself to put it in a new space so I would be thinking about it differently. Since we also had to kind of be our own directors in those classes, my concept didn't reduce the cast size at all, or any of the fantasy elements. It just put them into a much more immediate setting.
#26Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/3/18 at 8:40pm
Mister Matt said: "I love the score, but when I saw the tour with Chita, I really hated the staging. With all the bars, panels, spots, projections and lasers, I found it to be a visual mess and at times, had difficulty finding the actors on stage or knowing where to look. I was also disappointed in the choreography andthought the end scenewas rather trite. It was great hearing the score performed live and there were a few effective numbers here and there with Gimme Love being the unexpected standout for me (originally one of my least favorite on the cast recording, but it was stunning on stage).
I'd love to see it revived in a cleaner production that doesn't layer all the visuals directly on top of each other. I also think it would be more interesting to revisit the orchestrations of all the non-Aurora numbers with a more authentic traditional Argentinian sound. There's a little bit here and there, but it could definitely be pushed further, which could create a more stark contrast against the Aurora sequences."
I completely disagree. I loved the staging. However I think the visuals would seem old fashioned now.
Tony2600
Understudy Joined: 12/5/09
#28Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/3/18 at 9:29pmAre there any video clips of Anthony Crivello in the OBC available? The only OBC clips I have found primarily feature Chita (which is great!) but I wanted yo see a bit of the other actors.
#29Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 12:58am
Was Vanessa Williams really that big a star in 1995 to warrant an entirely new cast recording (on a different record label), or was that a Garth Drabinsky stunt?
#30Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 2:08amI’m going to take a guess and say yes she was that big of a star. She was a former Miss America, the first African American woman to wear the crown, bounced back from the ridiculous scandal, made several films, television appearances both in sitcoms and movies and had 3 albums out with multiple Grammy Award nominations. People knew who she was. As for why they recorded a separate album, who can say? Terrance McNally’s liner notes don’t give a specific reason as to why. Maybe someone here knows.
#31Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 2:40am
Alan Cumming
Steven Pasquale
Bernadette Peters or Catherine Zeta-Jones
#32Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 2:57am
qolbinau said: "Alan Cumming
Steven Pasquale
Bernadette Peters or Catherine Zeta-Jones
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Honey I know you love Bernadette; but..NO!!,, CZJ is more like it.
#33Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 9:17am
YAAASSS. CZJ for the win!!!
I can hear her singing now... "And the moon grows dimmer, at the tide's low ebb..."
#34Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 9:57am
CATSNYrevival said: "I’m going to take a guess and say yes she was that big of a star. She was a former Miss America, the first African American woman to wear the crown, bounced back from the ridiculous scandal, made several films, television appearances both in sitcoms and movies and had 3 albums out with multiple Grammy Award nominations. People knew who she was. As for why they recorded a separate album, who can say? Terrance McNally’s liner notes don’t give a specific reason as to why. Maybe someone here knows."
Could it have anything to do with the Wing/Mercury Record Label she had a contract with at the time? Did they put up the money?
#35Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 10:39am
Am i correct that the Vanessa sings half a step higher than Chita?
#36Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 11:41am
I thoroughly enjoyed KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN in its original staging. I saw Carol Lawrence in the title role, when she briefly replaced Chita Rivera during the tour's first stop in Chicago. I also saw Sandra Guida in a bus-and-truck tour that played Madison, Wisconsin. Sandra was amazing! For a revival of the musical, I always dreamed of seeing Ute Lemper as Aurora/Spider Woman, kind of in the tradition of Marlene Dietrich.
#37Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 1:44pm
Was Vanessa Williams really that big a star in 1995 to warrant an entirely new cast recording (on a different record label), or was that a Garth Drabinsky stunt?
I don't know the specific reason as to why the cast recording was made, but yes, she was riding a tidal wave of success at the time. She already bounced back from the Miss America scandal by producing her first hit single, Dreamin', in 1988. By 1994, she had two more successful albums, and a #1 hit single, Save the Best for Last, which was also featured in the popular Australian flick, Adventures of Priscilla. Her Broadway debut in Spider Woman was a pretty big deal at the time. The other replacements for Aurora, Carol Lawrence and Maria Conchita Alonso, didn't come close to the impact Vanessa made, which was one of the best-reviewed Broadway replacements in the last 25 years.
My only quibble with Williams is her stylistic choice to slide down the note at the end of every phrase. Regardless, I adore her. I still think she's the most beautiful woman on the planet and I have massive crazy respect for her. The way she bounced back was amazing for any woman, but for a POC in the 80s-90s, it was EXTRAORDINARY.
brettcx5
Chorus Member Joined: 2/7/16
#38Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 5:59pmI would personally love to see Cynthia Erivo play the role of Aurora.
#39Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/4/18 at 6:54pmKatrina Lenk would be perfect for a revival.
#40Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 5/7/18 at 4:59pm
I remember seeing this show when I was 15 with Vanessa Williams, Howard McMillan, and Brian Stokes Mitchell. It was abosuletly thrilling. I always thought this show would be a great vehicle for Andrew Rannells, not sure why but I could see him killing some those songs of Molina's. I think you would need a name for Aurora, I agree Katrina Lenk would be beautiful, but if a star is needed I would say someone like Jennifer Lopez or in a real stretch Rihanna.
#41Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 1/1/20 at 6:28am
I recently saw the Melbourne Theatre Company production of this show with Caroline O'Connor (who I've now seen in The Rink, Anastasia, Chicago & Gypsy). I haven't seen the show in 10 years - Act 1 was a bit longer than I remember (too long), and I do wonder if the whole Aurora escapism theme is a bit overdone. Valentin feels like he could have been written with at least some personality. But overall, I just love this show - it's dark, entertaining, camp & serious at all different points throughout the same show. At this point, I now feel like I can accept a revival never happening - but it would seem like a missed opportunity for it not to be so. There is so much that can be done in this show in terms of performances, musical arrangements, direction & staging.
#42Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 1/1/20 at 10:43am
I would LOVE to see what Daniel Fish would do with this show.
Owen22
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/24/11
#43Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 1/1/20 at 2:20pm
qolbinau said: "I recently saw the Melbourne Theatre Company production of this show withCaroline O'Connor (who I've now seen in The Rink, Anastasia, Chicago & Gypsy). I haven't seen the show in 10 years - Act 1 was a bit longer than I remember (too long), and I do wonder if the whole Aurora escapism theme is a bit overdone. Valentin feels like he could have been written with at least some personality.But overall, I just love this show - it's dark, entertaining, camp & serious at all different points throughout the same show.At this point, I now feel like I can accept a revival never happening - but it would seem like a missed opportunity for it not to be so. There is so much that can be done in this show in terms of performances, musical arrangements, direction & staging."
I saw that production as well...I don't think it made much of a case for that show. However, as much as I lLOVE Caroline O'Connor (I've seen her wonderful Gypsy Rose and Rink Anna in England, her Follies Phyllis in Chicago, her Assassins Sarah Jane Moore in Milwaukee and her Anything Goes Reno in Melbourne) I think a lot of the blame lies with her. For this show she was just the wrong actress. You need someone statuesque and mysterious as Aurora and she came off more or less a cartoon.
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#44Kiss Of The Spider Woman 25th Anniversary
Posted: 1/1/20 at 5:07pm
I know what you mean. I got the sense they were really playing up the humour/fun/entertainment value in her musical scenes especially. I don’t have a good sense of how it might work otherwise.
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