#301
Posted: 7/7/19 at 1:47am
Thank you to everyone who provided advice on the 'Bad Romance' number, interesting to hear!
Moulin Rouge! Previews — Page 13
#302
Posted: 7/7/19 at 4:05am
I found it to be aggravating. The sets and costumes were awesome but they were doing TOO much with the songs. It was frustrating when they used 1-3 lines from random songs bc the audience reacts to every one and I couldn’t fully get into the story bc every 30-60 seconds, it’s disrupted by a unnecessary lyric.. I’d rather have seen Hadestown again.
#303
Posted: 7/7/19 at 10:48pm
Saw this on Saturday. I think I bought way too much into the hype. I actually came away disappointed. After reading this board and Show Score I was expecting so much more. The show is visually stunning. The staging and choreography is amazing. However, I think the show lacked substance. I personally got tired of singing lyrics to various popular songs. I wish the musical had its own original material. To me it seems to be laziness on the part of writer. Certainly it would be fine to sing lyrics from popular songs sporadically, but not the entire show.
Maybe my expectations were set too high, along with the ridiculous ticket prices, but I walked away disappointed.
Maybe my expectations were set too high, along with the ridiculous ticket prices, but I walked away disappointed.
Not to be confused with Dave19.
#304
Posted: 7/7/19 at 10:49pm
Hellob said: "I found it to be aggravating. The sets and costumes were awesome but they were doing TOO much with the songs. It was frustrating when they used 1-3 lines from random songs bc the audience reacts to every one and I couldn’t fully get into the story bc every 30-60 seconds, it’s disrupted by a unnecessary lyric.. I’d rather have seen Hadestown again. "
Ditto
Not to be confused with Dave19.
#305
Posted: 7/7/19 at 11:21pm
Anyone know if they've made any significant changes this past week?
#306
Posted: 7/8/19 at 1:34am
Basically, what I'm getting from most of the posters on here is that the show looks amazing, but the substance of it is not that great.
Updated On: 7/8/19 at 01:34 AM
#307
Posted: 7/8/19 at 3:22am
Not sure why anyone who has seen the films or read the reviews here or from Boston would be expecting "substance" in this show.
It is beautiful, spectacular piffle. If you have hearing aids, turn them off and you will have an amazing time.
#308
Posted: 7/8/19 at 6:38am
I’m wondering if this show will have legs. I can see it selling really well for a few months and then petering out.
Also looking forward to the Tonys when this goes head to head with Girl From the North Country for best book.
Also looking forward to the Tonys when this goes head to head with Girl From the North Country for best book.
#309
Posted: 7/8/19 at 8:02am
Some days I just can't with these boards. And yet not surprised, because many on here have such a bias against anything that's too commercial, too flashy, or too touristy. If it's not high-brow, super deep material (with an original score), they write it off instantly. Jukebox musicals have to work that much harder to win over this crowd (unless SJB is playing Cher...then they'll try to rally around it as much as possible).
Then again, these are the same boards that said Ain't Too Proud would be DOA before the first preview even started and had zero chance of being nominated for anything. And, well...
#310
Posted: 7/8/19 at 8:08am
I know sometimes I imagine posters on here just downright miserable at these shows. If you don't like the show thats fine but sometimes the descriptions of the "aggravating" experience you had I just don't get it. You sound truly miserable. Spend your money on something else or use better adjectives to describe your displeasure. Just comes off as petty.
#311
Posted: 7/8/19 at 8:09am
IHeartNY2 said -- Some days I just can't with these boards.
I second that.
I second that.
Updated On: 7/8/19 at 08:09 AM
#312
==> this board is a nest of vipers <==
"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage
Posted: 7/8/19 at 8:44am
QueenAlice said: "I had a fabulous time watching the show, and much of my reservations - much like the experience of visiting a whorehouse - came the next morning, when I realized the extent of what I had subjected myself to."
Can we hear more about your visit to the whorehouse? 
"Michael Riedel...The Perez Hilton of the New York Theatre scene"
- Craig Hepworth, What's On Stage
#313
Posted: 7/8/19 at 11:27am
Just how is one supposed to know that they will hate a show until they go see it? Should they not talk about it?? So others should only see positive reviews?
I liked the show in Boston (and I usually hate spectacle) looking forward to seeing it again in a few weeks....but other's reactions (hatered or love) have no bearing on my enjoyment...or lack thereof.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Updated On: 7/8/19 at 11:27 AM
#314
Posted: 7/8/19 at 11:29am
dramamama611 said: "Just how is one supposed to know that they will hate a show until they go see it? Should they not talk about it?? So others should only see positive reviews?
"
And why do people take it so personally when someone doesn't like something that they do.
It's baffling...
#315
Posted: 7/8/19 at 11:32am
Yup.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
#316
Posted: 7/8/19 at 11:52am
Impossible2 said: "dramamama611 said: "Just how is one supposed to know that they will hate a show until they go see it? Should they not talk about it?? So others should only see positive reviews?
"
And why do people take it so personally when someone doesn't like something that they do.
It's baffling..."
Yeah, some posters have already stated their opinion on the show, but they keep coming to this thread to criticize and even question anyone that didn’t like it...
It just comes across as “I spent so much money on these tickets and therefore everyone must like it to validate my opinion and my purchase”...
#317
Posted: 7/8/19 at 11:52am
I'm just surprised by the criticisms of "lack of substance" and the pop music score. That is what Moulin Rouge! is: a by-the-numbers romantic melodrama spectacle with a pop music score. That is what the film is and was meant to be. It doesn't say anything particularly deep ("the greatest thing you will ever learn is to love and be loved in return" is the climactic thesis statement, for god's sake- it was arguably trite when Nat King Cole sang it and it was definitely trite in 2001) but it says it with a lot of panache and style.
I think people take for granted what Moulin Rouge!, the film, did for musicals, both on screen and off. It took what was then seen as a moribund and stodgy genre and made it cool, with recognizable music and frenetic energy.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#318
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:12pm
Oh I don't care if people like it or don't like it, I am just often shocked at the language used here to describe their experience fro posters who don't like it. Some posters make it sound like they truly hate theatre when they see something and they must tear it down, rather than sharing their opinion on it. Its just a flare for the dramatics mostly that is ridiculous. Hate a show all you want but it wasn't an "aggravating" experience for you. If it were that bad you would have left or never gone in the first place. There is a difference between not liking/critquing a show and tearing down a show you don't like, and I think people can agree with that.
#319
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:12pm
The difference between the movie and the show is that the movie had heart, whereas the show is pure sugar. Nothing wrong with the show being that, it's extremely entertaining, but like sugar, leaves you feeling kind of empty later.
#320
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:17pm
I disagree about the heart of the movie, with its wild MTV edits and gelatin boobs and boing-boing sound effects and throw-it-all-against-the-wall razzle dazzle, but that's neither here or there.
But if it's not trying to be anything but entertaining, criticizing it for that seems silly. There is an inclination on this board to ding things for being slight in order to look, I don't know, mature or intellectual or something, even when slightness is the point.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
Updated On: 7/8/19 at 12:17 PM
#321
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:43pm
Mike Barrett said: "Oh I don't care if people like it or don't like it, I am just often shocked at the language used here to describe their experience fro posters who don't like it. Some posters make it sound like they truly hate theatre when they see something and they must tear it down, rather than sharing their opinion on it. Its just a flare for the dramatics mostly that is ridiculous. Hate a show all you want but it wasn't an "aggravating" experience for you. If it were that bad you would have left or never gone in the first place.There is a difference between not liking/critquing a show and tearing down ashow you don't like,and I think people can agree with that."
If as the poster who used the word says, that it is full of instances of 2 or 3 lines from a song before it switches to another for no other reason than to cram as many songs in as possible, it would be pretty much a given that that would 'aggravate' me somewhat no matter how spectacular it was x
#322
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:45pm
Mike Barrett said: "Oh I don't care if people like it or don't like it, I am just often shocked at the language used here to describe their experience fro posters who don't like it. Some posters make it sound like they truly hate theatre when they see something and they must tear it down, rather than sharing their opinion on it. Its just a flare for the dramatics mostly that is ridiculous. Hate a show all you want but it wasn't an "aggravating" experience for you. If it were that bad you would have left or never gone in the first place.There is a difference between not liking/critquing a show and tearing down ashow you don't like,and I think people can agree with that."
Certain shows are gonna cause certain reactions... no one goes to see a show expecting not to like it... and it’s ok to be disappointed and write a review stating how you honestly feel... it’s all opinions at the end of the day...
I personally loved Head Over Heels, a show that most people here hated it, so what? I didn’t go around questioning every negative review, regardless of how nasty it was... I know what I like and what I don’t like and I don’t let someone else’s opinion change how I feel...
Also, I wasn’t referring to you Mike on my post...
#323
Posted: 7/8/19 at 12:48pm
Thank you Kad! @Dramamama: like and dislike a show all you want. I'm just stating the fact there's an unfair bias against jukebox musicals--before they even see the light of day, and I stand by that. I already gave one great example of that above with ATP, but if you'd like another: Check out the "Way too early 2020 noms" thread. Hardly anyone will even consider TINA as a best musical nominee even though it's been well-received so far...and instead they'll throw in shows that haven't even announced when/if/where/how they're coming this season. But JLP is deemed worthy, I guess, because it's artsy and 'deep' and not your typical jukebox. Different shows are held to different standards it seems.
We have a true spectacle of a show that could potentially break $2M right out of the gate, and that's too much for some people to handle. (And since I'm fired up right now, let's also acknowledge that MR is not one of those classic films that everyone has seen 50X, and that can't be altered in any way because it's so beloved by the masses). #Exhale
But back to the MR previews: If anyone knows of any major changes since first preview please share, I'm going back just before opening!
Updated On: 7/8/19 at 12:48 PM
#324
Posted: 7/8/19 at 1:13pm
Kad said: "I disagree about the heart of the movie, with its wild MTV edits and gelatin boobs and boing-boing sound effects and throw-it-all-against-the-wall razzle dazzle, but that's neither here or there.
But if it's not trying to be anything but entertaining, criticizing it for that seems silly. There is an inclination on this board to ding things for being slight in order to look, I don't know, mature or intellectual or something, even when slightness is the point."
Wow, Kad I completely disagree with your assessment of the film as having no heart. The last third of the film has true pathos and I remember half the theatre in tears by the end of it. The film also ends in a somber, quiet, reflective way. The musical on stage has none of that.
#325
Posted: 7/8/19 at 2:50pm
Well, there are SOME here that dont like jukebox musicals. So what? There is no unfair bias. People know what they like. Who cares what someone isnt predicting for awards that are 11 months away?
But you know something? Many of these people will still go to see it...because they might be wrong, and they want to KNOW, not guess.
And again...people on a discussion board has no control over the Tony Awards or the general public.
But you know something? Many of these people will still go to see it...because they might be wrong, and they want to KNOW, not guess.
And again...people on a discussion board has no control over the Tony Awards or the general public.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
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