Moulin Rouge! Previews - Page 11

[Jarethan]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 9:47am

Miles2Go2 said: "Kidman is 4 years older than McGregor. Olivo is 7 years older than Tveit. Are those 3 extra years that bothersome?"

IMO Kidman doesn't look a day older than MacGregor, whereas Oliva looks a decade older than Tveit, who is 'boyishly handsome.'  I really think they should have replaced her after Boston, but then i liked Donna Murphy better then Bette Midler.

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 9:59am

I don’t know if this was be case in Boston, but the script in NYC certainly implies that Satine might be older than Christian. I don’t in theory have a problem with the characters not being the same age but it’s a little like if you teamed Daniel Radcliffe and Jennifer Lopez together. It looks off. The biggest problem for me is again that Olivio is the picture of good health and vitality. There is nothing fragile about her. A woman dying of consumption wouldn’t look like that.

[the.hard.part]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 9:59am

Re: Tam/Duke comments - IMO in Boston it seemed to be more of an attraction, on Broadway he is much harsher and "scarier" as a threat, Karen seemed more disgusted and only doing it to save the MR. That change alone made a difference to me.

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:03am

The script on Broadway makes it clear the Duke is very likely a psychopath. It’s fine but I preferred the script and characterization of that part in the film.

[IHeartNY2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:41am

Reading these comments, all we can do is laugh, right? Next up we'll be scrutinizing their cocktail menu. 

[nyskier]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:57am

Saw the show Wednesday night.  Did the cancellation line and ended up with H center orchestra for $199 which was a wonderful seat needless to say.  Was also watching Stubhub and could have gotten Row P or Q center orchestra for $165 with fees about an hour before the show, so there are more reasonably priced tickets out there if you can wait last minute.

I saw the movie once probably when it came out so I went in fairly fresh and enjoyed the show.  Very high energy, a feast for the eyes and senses.  Loved Danny Burstein and Aaron Tveit, but also enjoyed Karen's performance.  A fun and high energy evening, and I think if people go into the show with that expectation they won't be disappointed....

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:58am

Such an entertaining thread. The things you learn on here...from one member’s fondness for whorehouses to another’s brother husbands to another thinking the biggest problem between Daniel Radcliffe and Jennifer Lopez together would be the perceived age difference and not that one has proven himself a good actor and the other...is certainly beautiful.

Updated On: 7/5/19 at 10:58 AM

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 11:05am

(Continued)...

I’m beginning to think Moulin Rouge! was designed as an experiment by a bunch of psychologists as the ultimate Rorschach Test. Whatever you see in it, whatever it calls to mind, says more about you than the musical itself.

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 1:49pm

I didn't really even notice the age difference when I saw it in Boston. And if Christian reads younger than Satine, why not? Christian is the innocent ingenue of the piece, so I can see him storyline-wise falling for an older beauty as charismatic as she.

[inception]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 3:03pm

Miles2Go2 said: "... and Jennifer Lopez

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...is certainly beautiful."

Jennifer Lopez reportedly made $350, 000/ show for her Vegas residency, which ran for 120 shows.  She ain't doing Broadway anytime soon.

It was one of the best shows I have ever seen - amazing sets & costumes.  I went in just because it was something playing while I was there, & left a fan.

[batchels]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 5:20pm

If you buy tickets at the box office for this show, are the Ticketmaster service fees avoided or reduced?

[the.hard.part]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 5:55pm

batchels said: "If you buy tickets at the box office for this show, are the Ticketmaster service fees avoided or reduced?"

No fees at the box office, just the ticket price

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 6:20pm

Ticketmaster/telecharge fees are always avoided at a bway box office. Because you arent using their service.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 8:07pm

Uh ... my mom has seen the film and liked it. Would this be good momsical material? Anything too risqué? My mom wants to see something but has dismissed Oklahoma!

[DAME]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 8:15pm

poisonivy2 said: "Uh ... my mom has seen the film and liked it. Would this be good momsical material? Anything too risqué? My mom wants to see something but has dismissed Oklahoma!"

I like your mom.

[Sho-Tunes-R-Us]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 9:50pm

Miles2Go2 said: "(Continued)...

I’m beginning to think Moulin Rouge! was designed as an experiment by a bunch of psychologists as the ultimate Rorschach Test. Whatever you see in it, whatever it calls to mind, says more about you than the musical itself. "

Isn't that true of all entertainments?

And what is a "brother husband"?  An obscure Game Of Thrones reference?

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:02pm

Same thing as a sister wife. I think you were the one who said you had four husbands?

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:37pm

DAME said: "poisonivy2 said: "Uh ... my mom has seen the film and liked it. Would this be good momsical material? Anything too risqué? My mom wants to see something but has dismissed Oklahoma!"

I like your mom."

I like my mom too. I usually screen shows for her to make sure they're okay for a momsical but I'm not spending $250 to screen a show just to make sure my mom will like it.

[Jarethan]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 10:44pm

How old is your mom?  I am 68, saw the show twice in Boston, loved it despite some weaknesses.  I was not familiar with at least a third of the songs, some apparently huge hits, so I am not the ideal target audience, I suspect.  Have tickets for 10/10 and cannot wait.  It is exhilarating.

[poisonivy2]

Posted: 7/5/19 at 11:36pm

Jarethan said: "How old is your mom? I am 68, saw the show twice in Boston, loved it despite some weaknesses. I was not familiar with at leasta third of the songs, some apparently huge hits, so I am not the ideal target audience, I suspect. Have tickets for 10/10 and cannot wait. Itis exhilarating."

My mom is mid-70's, politically very liberal but in terms of entertainment she likes wholesome entertainment with lots of singing and dancing. She did a hard pass on the Oklahoma! She saw Moulin Rouge when it came out with me and liked it, but I understand the song list for the musical is very different than the movie. My mom doesn't like really loud, electronica music.

[BroadwaySusie]

Posted: 7/6/19 at 12:29am

Ticketmaster has center orchestra seats in rows L thru O selling at $199 for Saturday, 7/6, at 2pm. I think those seats usually sells for $299-$349. It would be a nice treat for you and your mom if you’re available tomorrow.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/6/19 at 12:30am

Just getting in from tonight’s performance. Having seen the show last year, there were definitely things I liked and quite a few that I didn’t like about it and I had been disheartened to read not much has changed in a year. But I really was pleasantly surprised tonight at how much I enjoyed it! The show obviously is a sumptuous treat to look at and never leaves you wanting for something to look at. I was most surprised by the chemistry between Olivo & Tveit, which I found non existent in Boston but was excellent here.
I still wish some of the music was changed and that “Firework” was taken out and Satine given back “One Day I’ll Fly Away”, but strangely it didn’t bother me as much tonight as it did before.

I will say my one very big complaint is the ending. Satine is robbed of a proper death scene by the awful writing there. “Christian, by the way I’m dying. Sorry but write me well, K?”
is basically what she’s given before she dies. I want to cry at hat moment and the writing as it is now completely robs me of that. Why couldn’t they sing a reprise of “Come What May” or “Your Song” together right there? That really just pissed me off, actually. But other than that the show is greatly tightened up and trimmed, which solved a lot of the problems it had originally. I’m looking forward to seeing it after opening and hoping for a few more tweaks between now and then, but as everyone else has said - this is going to run for years.

[msmp]

Posted: 7/6/19 at 12:54am

poisonivy2 said: "Jarethan said: "How old is your mom? I am 68, saw the show twice in Boston, loved it despite some weaknesses. I was not familiar with at leasta third of the songs, some apparently huge hits, so I am not the ideal target audience, I suspect. Have tickets for 10/10 and cannot wait. Itis exhilarating."

My mom is mid-70's, politically very liberal but in terms of entertainment she likes wholesome entertainment with lots of singing and dancing. She did a hard pass on the Oklahoma! She saw Moulin Rouge when it came out with me and liked it, but I understand the song list for the musical is very different than the movie. My mom doesn't like really loud, electronica music."

My dad is in that age bracket (and my mom is not quite a decade younger, in the same boat) and aside from Maroon 5 (ugh) doesn't listen to much modern music. He thoroughly enjoyed the show in the Boston tryouts, and I wouldn't call the music for this one "electronica." There's definitely a mix of 1980s (maybe 1970s for a couple?) to the present, but nothing that wasn't a mainstream pop/rock song in that era. The closest you might get to that is the Bad Romance/Toxic Act II opener (which I'm guessing is the same as in Boston), but I think the choreo and staging for that scene would really impress your mom even if the music style there isn't her favorite! Overall, though, I think you'd be safe taking her!

[msmp]

Posted: 7/6/19 at 12:58am

Jordan Catalano said: "Just getting in from tonight’s performance. Having seen the show last year, there were definitely things I liked and quite a few that I didn’t like about it and I had been disheartened to read not much has changed in a year. But I really was pleasantly surprised tonight at how much I enjoyed it! The show obviously is a sumptuous treat to look at and never leaves you wanting for something to look at. I was most surprised by the chemistry between Olivo & Tveit, which I found non existent in Boston but was excellent here.
I still wish some of the music was changed and that “Firework” was taken out and Satine given back “One Day I’ll Fly Away”, but strangely it didn’t bother me as much tonight as it did before.

I will say my one very big complaint is the ending. Satine is robbed of a proper death scene by the awful writing there. “Christian, by the way I’m dying. Sorry but write me well, K?”
is basically what she’s given before she dies. I want to cry at hat moment and the writing as it is now completely robs me of that. Why couldn’t they sing a reprise of “Come What May” or “Your Song” together right there? That really just pissed me off, actually. But other than that the show is greatly tightened up and trimmed, which solved a lot of the problems it had originally. I’m looking forward to seeing it after opening and hoping for a few more tweaks between now and then, but as everyone else has said - this is going to run for years."

Your criticism here of the ending rings true to me, and I'm kind of disappointed that hasn't been tightened up since Boston. When I saw it at the 2nd preview there, it was even worse though, if you can believe it. The show just kind of...ended and then went into the bows megamix. By the time I saw it post-opening it had gotten better, but you're right that it still lacked the emotional oomph the scene should provide. I'm one of the people who thought Karen/Aaron actually did have some good chemistry, so I know that wasn't why the ending left me cold at the time.

Hope they make use of the preview period to add either some dialogue or, like you said, a reprise of one of the more meaningful numbers.

[bear88]

Posted: 7/6/19 at 1:06am

Jordan Catalano said: "Just getting in from tonight’s performance. Having seen the show last year, there were definitely things I liked and quite a few that I didn’t like about it and I had been disheartened to read not much has changed in a year. But I really was pleasantly surprised tonight at how much I enjoyed it! The show obviously is a sumptuous treat to look at and never leaves you wanting for something to look at. I was most surprised by the chemistry between Olivo & Tveit, which I found non existent in Boston but was excellent here.
I still wish some of the music was changed and that “Firework” was taken out and Satine given back “One Day I’ll Fly Away”, but strangely it didn’t bother me as much tonight as it did before.

I will say my one very big complaint is the ending. Satine is robbed of a proper death scene by the awful writing there. “Christian, by the way I’m dying. Sorry but write me well, K?”
is basically what she’s given before she dies. I want to cry at hat moment and the writing as it is now completely robs me of that. Why couldn’t they sing a reprise of “Come What May” or “Your Song” together right there? That really just pissed me off, actually. But other than that the show is greatly tightened up and trimmed, which solved a lot of the problems it had originally. I’m looking forward to seeing it after opening and hoping for a few more tweaks between now and then, but as everyone else has said - this is going to run for years."

I'm always struck when people's opinions change. (I haven't seen the musical but liked the film and would certainly like this to be good.) Chemistry can be a tough thing to pull off, because it's intangible, so good for them. The ending seems like it ought to be easy to fix. It puzzles me that they haven't gotten to that, because it's been one of the complaints many people on this board - even those who liked the show - have had with it.