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NBC's SMASH - Series & Broadway Adaptation Thread

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#825Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 9:21am

I don't think that the reprimand right into drinking together was unusual. I've had many tense moments with co-workers during the day that end as soon as we get to the bar. Just because you have an argument at work doesn't mean you can't still enjoy your post-work drink.

Gothampc
#826Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 10:58am

Have any of these writers ever worked in theater? Will Chase's wife and kid would not be able to just run into a workshop rehearsal. And Ellis would not be sitting at the table like he's an important contributor to the show.

What's up with the heat storyline? Just to get the bartender to see the workshop? A better writer could have gotten him there without that stupid storyline.

And even though Bernadette did a good job, I was disappointed in her storyline. Nobody knew that Ivy had a Tony Award winning actress for a mother? Really? Really??


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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#827Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:03am

I think the gimmick with the heat was more a plot device to throw 'uncertain' reaction on the workshop and thus prolong / incite further conflict: i.e. as they said in the final scene: "was it the material wasn't working? Ivy suffering from lack of focus or was it the heat? Guess we need to explore more."

Yes its a gimmick, but honestly I've seen that exact scenario happen before in a Broadway workshop.

FindingNamo
#828Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:07am

Cousin Debbie's Annoying Younger Brother needs to pick "If I Ran the Zoo" for his next bedtime story. I make up plenty of my own character nicknames, for example, "Replacement Roger," which is some of my best work. I loved his Dimaggio number, btw, which is saying something since they worked so hard to make his character (not Dimaggio) so unlikeable. Also, do NOT do a broken heat scene if shirts are going to stay on.

Also, not for nothing, but I haven't seen anybody "complain" or even mention Nathan Lane this week.


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#829Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:10am

Is Cousin Debbie's child to old to get SIDS? Cause that's a storyline I can get behind. Maybe he can wander into the Zombie-pocolypse of Walking dead and be the dessert to the entree that is that awful child, Carl.

The workshop stuff was sensational...I actually thought, for the first time (and believe me, I never thought I'd say this), I'd like to see this musical. Every time it gets soapy, it loses me just a bit. Mabye cause I'm myopic and think putting on a musical is the MOST INTERESTING THING IN THE WORLD. Never let it be said that I don't recognize my faults.

I have no idea what next week's episode is about. Director-man is going behind their backs to hire another songwriter and Ninny McPhee is going to work on their music? In a number that looks surprisingly like something from Thou Shalt Not??? Sign me up!

Oh...and the reason Chase doesn't work as DiMaggio is because the Broadway actor one would go to to play DiMaggio is...well...Christian Borle. LOOK AT HIM!

FindingNamo
#830Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:15am

I think it's a thinly veiled "ripped from the headlines" plot based on Bono and The Edge completely selling out Julie Taymor with their secret Plan X.


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#831Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:15am

DiMaggio was never a handsome man. Chase was really miscast.


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#832Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 11:33am

He looks like he's walked right out of an AR Gurney play. Even someone like Christian Hoff would be me appropriately cast as DiMaggio.

Oh...right...Spiderman drama. It's so SVU.

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#833Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 12:18pm

Apropos of nothing, Marilyn-era Joe DiMaggio makes me swoon.

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#834Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 12:21pm

I adored the DiMaggio number. I read a Marylin Monroe bio years ago and remember reading that he was there when that iconic scene was shot and he was livid. Maybe it was my knowledge that heightened my enjoyment but I thought it was the best song yet.

And Bernie...well Bernie. She's just amazing. Loved her Rose's turn and count myself lucky that I got to see it live when she did it on Broadway. I also loved how she struggled between wanting to tell her daughter how proud she was and wanting her to choose a different career.


"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".

Gothampc
#835Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 12:24pm

Rachel  Shukert's

Will Chase? I think not!


If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

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#836Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 2:12pm

"That being said: many fewer comments..."

Then my work here is done.

Updated On: 3/20/12 at 02:12 PM

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#837Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 2:22pm

There was bad weather in my city and the receiver was interrupted a few times, so I watched the parts that I missed online. I really enjoyed Bernadette on the episode. It's no surprise that Chase's character will not continue with the musical since he is a recurring character, but I think he is still scheduled to appear in two more episodes.

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#838Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 2:25pm

I'm sure Tom was well-intentioned when he was trying reassure Ivy before the workshop. But did anyone else question the wisdom of reassuring an actress that she has "ice water in her veins" when she is about to go on as Marilyn Monroe?

Gothampc
#839Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 2:40pm

"But did anyone else question the wisdom of reassuring an actress that she has "ice water in her veins" when she is about to go on as Marilyn Monroe?"

I thought the ice water comment was stupid. He should have said "Why are you looking in the rearview mirror? Stars only look forward."


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FindingNamo
#840Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 2:47pm

I just thought of something that stuck out like a sore thumb: the backstage chit chat about the agent representing three stars who would love the role of Marilyn. Like THAT'S the first thing those chorines would think! Not, "Oh my god, I hope he notices me! Maybe if I fall off the riser he will!!!!" But of course, whatever Uma wants... Uma gets.


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#841Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 3:02pm

I loved the DiMaggio number, I'm quite enjoying Chase on the show but I agree that some of the 'ensemble' seem more fun to watch. Bernadette was great. Most of the show is completely implausible but I'm loving Scott Whitman and Marc Shaiman's work and whilst I don't like Ivy as a character I think Megan Hilty is wonderful. I don't take the show seriously and obviously it's not going to be an accurate representation of the theatre world. It does seem to take a bit of a bashing here, and everywhere but you know, if you don't like it, don't watch it.

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#842Rachel Shukert's
Posted: 3/20/12 at 3:09pm

I too think putting on a musical is really interesting, but I'd rather read a book like Ted Chapin's or watch a documentary on the subject.

Thanks to the miracle of modern technology, I happened to watch SMASH and GCB back-to-back last night and I'd like to propose a writers' exchange for a few weeks. Shaiman can write new songs for Chenowith and the writers of GBC can boost the camp and soap opera quotients on SMASH.

Not that GCB is so brilliant, mind you, and it is set in a milieu (Dallas) that lost any interest it held for me back when J.R. was shot. But at least its writers know how to turn up the volume. They'd have not only had "Mama Rose" sing a song from GYPSY, they'd have had her competing for the director's sexual attention and trying to get the writers to create her a part as "Marilyn's mother". Leaving the episode far less time for Ellis and Debra Messing's son.

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#843Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 4:58pm

The goddess hath posted:




Smash Recap: The Bernadette Motherf*cking Peters Show By Rachel Shukert


Updated On: 3/20/12 at 04:58 PM

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#844Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 5:22pm

Haven't read the Shukert yet, but I had to weigh in.

Last night was PREPOSTEROUS! But, still it was lively at least. It was nice to see the focus shifted away from That Damned Karen for a while. I love how the chorines ran to the SM and asked her if TDK could go see the superstar producer for an hour and Ann Harada was like, "Oh, without letting us know anything in advance? Sure! We don't need you!" Frankly, nothing in this looked like a professional rehearsal with everyone's whole fam-damily running in and out at will. And Cousin Debbie running out of a rehearsal to mope about Will Chase....? Oh, come on! That's professionalism! Don't you just hate it when women in shows and movies have marital, sexual, or boyfriend problems and they....throw up!! Or, in this case, feel like they're going to throw up? Do women really do this when they're upset? In my experience they just get really really pissed. Good thing Morally McHandpatter was there to do his thing right there in the street!

I have decided I don't much like the songs in the show. Too poppy/facile.

I couldn't help but snort when Cousin Debbie snarls to her son's friend as he squirms out of their apartment, "Get out of here, you DRUG ADDICT!" Who is the "chemical use adviser" on this show, Nancy Reagan?

When the previews showed Anjelica Huston snarling to the assistant something to the effect of "You'll never work in this town again", I got really excited. Like maybe he was going to be an informant to M*****l R****l or something and that would lead to controversy, but no one would know it was him, and Anjelica's character couldn't decide if the bad publicity was good for the show and she's getting pressure from the creatives and.... But no. Turns out he's just an everyday gossip who is snapped shut like a coin purse. What a waste.

Still, it was livelier than other episodes.


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#845Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 5:25pm

If anyone looks like DiMaggio it's Christian Borle.

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#846Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 5:43pm

This is better than Henry James:


They are behaving like a couple of hormone-crazed, acne-scarred grotesques on the band bus, moistly holding hands and gnashing their damp pelvises together frantically before springing apart ostentatiously whenever a door opens, lest Derek or Anjelica Huston see what they’re up to, forgetting that Derek barely knows either of their names, let alone their marital statuses, and just wants Cousin Debbie to keep her legs closed long enough to, I don’t know, finish writing the goddamn show in time for the workshop tomorrow, and Anjelica Huston just wants the goddamn liberal crypto-Islamofascist Socialist Saul Alinsky–reading,William Ayers–butt-sniffing labor union to let the maintenance crew to turn the f**king heat down in the building before Manny Azenberg has a stroke and his heirs decide to sink their inheritance into a major Broadway revival of Emanuel Azenberg’s Jerome Robbins’s Broadway instead.


"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.” ~ Muhammad Ali

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#847Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 6:00pm

How did I not see this before?! All this talk about Christian Borle looking like Joe DiMaggio has finally helped me to see clearly now. He really DOES look like DiMaggio. O_O

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#848Rachel Shukert Is A Goddess
Posted: 3/20/12 at 6:56pm

I love Rachel's Cole Escola reference.
Check out his Bernadette on the tube.

Side note; Where can I watch a full episode I missed?

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