Nicole Scherzinger- Page 9

[Jvj24605]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 9:36am

Wow, it's Monday.  People are still talking about it.  And we're gonna keep talking about it for a long, long time.  

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 09:36 AM

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 9:38am

blaxx said: "And she didn't apologize, a PR team did."

When a PR Team is hired, they can't release anything without the client signing off on it. The apology might be more articulate or measured because a third party drafted it, but directionally it's 100% saying what Scherzinger wanted it to say. For better or worse.

[Theatrefanboy1]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 10:19am

This is all fascinating.  When I pay my 100s of dollars for a night out at the theatre. I truly could care less what the individuals personal political view is of mine. In fact there are times when I know the persons political view is very much against mine but they are fantastic in the role and the show overall. I just don’t care.   I do feel terrible for those who’ve been pulled through the ringer (Nicole.  Laura Osnes. Zachary Levi) based on politics or political assumptions. ) considering it’s well known the theatre/film communities are 99% somewhere on the progressive spectrum. It seems that if it were reversed would these message board critics be in turn boycotting theatre all together???  It truly seems immature.  
I will also say that considering 50% of tourists coming and supporting theatre are from more conservative areas it would be a terribly poor assessment to only cater to one political side.  In fact in recent years we’ve seen a large number of shows pushing deeply political or polarizing messages tank in box office returns.  This is a business.  I love that artists like Dolly Parton have refused to comment or endorse from any political side.  And that has proven to add to a longevity of a career. 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 10:32am

The 50% statistic asserted above reminded me we can always turn to Broadway League audience demographics research:

https://www.broadwayleague.com/research/research-reports/

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 10:33am

Jvj24605 said: "Wow, it's Monday. People are still talking about it. And we're gonna keep talking about it for a long, long time. "

This is truly only being talked about on Broadway related sites and message boards. The mainstream masses are clueless about any of this. I asked 5 entertainment industry friends and they first, have no idea there’s a SUNSET BLVD revival on Broadway right now, and second, are totally unaware of Nicole’s “alleged” backlash. Even a friend who’s close to Jake Spears is totally unaware of the trashing TAMMY FAYE is getting on message boards. She’s excited about attending the musical’s opening night. 

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 10:52am

Theatrefanboy1 said: "I do feel terrible for those who’ve been pulled through the ringer (Nicole. Laura Osnes. Zachary Levi) based on politics or political assumptions. ) considering it’s well known the theatre/film communities are 99% somewhere on the progressive spectrum."

What infuriated the Broadway community about Zachary Levi, much more than him endorsing Trump, was him claiming that the Covid vaccine caused Gavin Creel to die of cancer. Absent of any medical evidence. 

Levi was, irresponsibly around a tragedy, pushing his personal politics on the Broadway community, not the other way around.   

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 10:52 AM

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 10:56am

BrodyFosse123 said: "Even a friend who’s close to Jake Spears is totally unaware of the trashing TAMMY FAYE is getting on message boards. She’s excited about attending the musical’s opening night."

I normally wouldn't bother with this, but since you jumped on someone for using the wrong pronoun for Cecil B. DeMille in the Sunset thread in what was a clear typo...

It's Jake Shears. 

 

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 11:06am

Matt Rogers said: "QueenAlice said: "Wow, it's Monday and people are still talking about this. I imagine this is going to be part of the general narrative of the season, and I suspect you are also going to see a lot more attempts to exposepeople in the entertainment industry who might be 'traitors' to the Democratic Party, because the unspoken agreement in the Broadway community is that if you are not a liberal democrat you are not welcome on Broadway. And Broadway would apparently rather take down its own, even if that meant hurting it's own livlihood, than focus its energy on anything that might actually help the causes it believes it needs to fight for.

I'm sorry but if you were to remove everyone in the Broadway community who might have voted for Trump, you wouldn't be able to put on a show, because that group is going to include a large amount of the producers, investors, behind the stage crew, and audience memnbers. And guess what not all of these people are automatically anti-gay, anti-trans, anti women rights.

I really think the Broadway community needs to have a serious conversation about how they are going to navigate this. The cut and dry "us verses them" mentality that has permeated the last eight years needs to be rethought - its not a smart strategy anymore."

Happy that you got all that off your chest, sweetheart?

That disgusting orange piece of garbage has pledged to wreak hell on various minorities including members of the LGBTQ community. Perhaps that doesn’t bother you or the rest of you right wing comrades on here, Karen, but it deeply bothers many in the theatre world."

Matt, I'm not trying to negate feelings or fear, but beyond being bothered by it, what is the theatre world going to do about it to proactively protect its community or change minds from people who aren't prioritizing LGTBQ issues when they vote? And how does going after Nicole Sherzinger (or other people in the community who likely do care about LGBT issues more than most) help any of this? Asking for your serious opinion, I respect your outrage. But I'd like your solution.

[joevitus]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 11:43am

BrodyFosse123 said: "Jvj24605 said: "Wow, it's Monday. People are still talking about it. And we're gonna keep talking about it for a long, long time. "

This is truly only being talked about on Broadway related sites and message boards. The mainstream masses are clueless about any of this. I asked 5 entertainment industryfriends and they first, have no idea there’s a SUNSET BLVD revival on Broadway right now, and second, are totally unaware of Nicole’s “alleged” backlash. Even a friend who’s close to Jake Spears is totally unaware of the trashing TAMMY FAYE is getting on message boards. She’s excited about attending the musical’s opening night."

"Entertainment industry friends" can mean anything, but if people who work in entertainment in any significant way don't know there's a revival of Sunset Blvd going on, they might perhaps be in the wrong profession. If you were talking about the average Joe (Gillis) on the street, I'd understand the comment better.

[morosco]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 11:45am

So has Scherzinger been officially cancelled or is that still to be determined?

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 11:51am

morosco said: "So hasScherzinger been officially cancelled or is that still to be determined?"

Only on Broadway related message boards. In real life, everything is as it was before. No protesters outside the St. James Theatre and no boos or zero standing ovations. On the Broadway message boards she will be burned at the stake by Sunday. 

[mshalo18]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 11:52am

Very seriously- while yes, Nicole posted that video of herself supposedly going to vote- but we don’t even know if she did. Is she even registered to vote in NY? Somehow I find it hard to visualize her strutting into a grimy NYC public school gym to cast her ballot. 
And yes, I know she could vote by absentee ballot for whatever state her legal address is (Kentucky? Hawaii?)- but at the end of the day, I’m questioning if she really voted. Lots of assumptions being made that may mean a lot less than they actually do. 

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 12:04pm

BrodyFosse123 said: "On the Broadway message boards she will be burned at the stake by Sunday."

You're as accurate about that as you were on Jake Shears' name.

 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 12:05pm

The internet is not real life and is only representative of the most obnoxious, self-righteous people you've ever come across. And that applies to both sides of the aisle. Brody (as loathe as I am to admit this) is 100% right. The general public has no clue about this and even if they did, wouldn't give a sh*t. 

We need to reconcile that canceling people has not and will never be a productive means of dealing with people who disagree with us. And when we're canceling people for such minuscule, trivial nonsense, people will not pay attention to the things that actually matter. No one that isn't terminally online gives a flying flip about Nicole Scherzinger tangentially being adjacent to MAGA. No one that isn't terminally online gives a flying flip about Patti LuPone sending flowers to thank a neighboring show for adjusting their volume.

In Nicole's case, there isn't actual proof she voted for Trump, just people weaving tales from her engagement on two posts on Instagram. In her career, there isn't evidence of her treating marginalized people badly. She's not gloating about mass deportations. She's not espousing racist bile. She's never expressed homophobic or transphobic views. She may have voted for him, she may have voted for Kamala. We will never know. But the mob is acting as though they know for sure and that she's a heinous person. 

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 12:06pm

joevitus said: "Entertainment industry friends" can mean anything, but if people who work in entertainment in any significant way don't know there's a revival of Sunset Blvd going on, they might perhaps be in the wrong profession. If you were talking about the average Joe (Gillis) on the street, I'd understand the comment better."

 

Ignore her, she drinks.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 12:39pm

morosco said: "So hasScherzinger been officially cancelled or is that still to be determined?"

It's too soon because the weekly Broadway gross data hasn't been released yet. But it's so rare for people to get cancelled in the way people mean it. 

My guess is the worst case scenario is along the lines of SUNSET BLVD. makes $50,000 less than last week and is the 4th highest grossing show on Broadway instead of the 3rd. Then heading into the holidays their grosses go up again. This is a headache but not more than that for Scherzinger and the show. 

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 1:06pm

mshalo18 said: "Very seriously- while yes, Nicole posted that video of herself supposedly going to vote- but we don’t even know if she did. Is she even registered to vote in NY? Somehow I find it hard to visualize her strutting into a grimyNYC public school gym to cast her ballot.
And yes, I know she could vote by absentee ballot for whatever state her legal address is (Kentucky? Hawaii?)- but at the end of the day, I’m questioning if she really voted. Lots of assumptions being made that may mean a lot less than they actually do."

Just pointing out that NYC has a variety of polling places that aren’t “grimy” gyms. My polling place the last few elections has been the Shed. I early voted in 2020 at Madison Square Garden.

[Jvj24605]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 1:07pm

Jonathan Cohen said: "morosco said: "So hasScherzinger been officially cancelled or is that still to be determined?"

It's too soon becausethe weekly Broadway gross data hasn't been released yet. But it's so rare for people to get cancelled in the way people mean it.

My guess is the worst case scenario is along the lines ofSUNSET BLVD. makes $50,000 less than last week and is the 4th highest grossing show on Broadway instead of the 3rd. Then heading into the holidays their grosses go up again. This is a headache but not more than that forScherzinger and the show."

Even if this dies down in the next few weeks, the controversy will resurface prior to Tony nominations and most definitely during the awards season.  
 

The general public may not be aware of her statements but without a doubt the theater community is neither deaf nor blind to them.

 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 1:12pm

TotallyEffed said: "joevitus said: "Entertainment industry friends" can mean anything, but if people who work in entertainment in any significant way don't know there's a revival of Sunset Blvd going on, they might perhaps be in the wrong profession. If you were talking about the average Joe (Gillis) on the street, I'd understand the comment better."

Ignore her, she drinks."

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 1:59pm

TotallyEffed said: "Wait til y’all hear about Amazon."

I started a thread on amazon years ago!

I’ll dig it up if you like.

#AmazonAreEvil

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:14pm

Jvj24605 said: "Even if this dies down in the next few weeks, the controversy will resurface prior to Tony nominations and most definitely during the awards season.

The general public may not be aware of her statements but withouta doubt the theater community is neither deaf nor blindto them."

We'd never know the why, but it's possible 20 Tony voters could decide they won't vote for Scherzinger because they think she supports Trump, and Audra McDonald wins a Best Actress Tony as a result. 

I just don't think getting nominated for a Tony and just not winning equals getting canceled. This is unlikely to cost Scherzinger money or future casting opportunities.   

[Jarethan]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:40pm

I hate Donald Trump as much as anyone on this board.  But I do feel like there are a number of people on this board who need to get a life.  Some comments on prior topics have made me cringe (e.g., passion as to whether a straight person should be allowed to play a gay man, whether someone who isn't trans should play a trans character, etc., recently some of the comments on the Kecia Lewis rant, etc., because they were passionate in a way that I personally felt was over the top.  I think the same thing is arising here. 

Over 50% of the voters sadly decided that Trump was their choice (Note: I have quietly concluded that there are more morons in the country than I even realized), but I still need to live with them (at least until likely complete lack of focus on Climate Change kills us all).  People who don't even know who she voted for are talking about boycotting the show.  IMO that is your choice, but you are going to miss a great performance in a stupendous production.  

I should probably envy the simplicity of some folks' lives if they can get so emotionally invested in topics that have little impact on their daily life.  

[OhHiii]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:44pm

If an actress (who may be giving the more Tony-worthy performance) were to lose the Tony due to political beliefs that no one knows for certain are her actual political beliefs (she has plausible deniability at this point), then we're farrrrrr too gone. It could very well be the case, but how f'in ridiculous. The woman has done zero material harm to anyone. They aren't going to fire her (she'd have a very easy lawsuit on her hands if they did), there are over 100 people counting on the production for their livelihood that would be collateral damage.

It has to be said again. NO ONE KNOWS WHO SHE VOTED FOR. We know too much about each other and that's the root of the issue. People assume they know someone because they have access to a slice of their lives via social media. So people take these things personally in a way that sends them into blind rage and the keyboard starts a-clack-clack-clackin until they tire out. It's performative. It's a way for people who are isolated to feel validated and part of a community to assemble a digital mob and go after someone. Mind you, there are plenty of behaviors that warrant jettisoning someone off the face of the planet's consciousness, but none of those are anywhere close to this particular brand of stupid discourse.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:47pm

Jarethan… but MAGAism does have an impact on our daily lives?

[OhHiii]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:49pm

Jarethan said: "I should probably envy the simplicity of some folks' lives if they can get so emotionally invested in topics that have little impact on their daily life."

Wow you said it with this. Thank you.