Nicole Scherzinger- Page 8

[Alexander_Nevermind]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 12:43pm

The intolerance shown by many in this thread boggles my mind.

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 3:04pm

Seb28 said: "Hitler was a socialist, exactly as the left is in the USA today. That's the historical facts.

Yesterday an islamic assassination attempt on Trump has been foiled. 3 muslims arrested. He gets in the way of theirplan. The left is being used for the plan.

I would say Trump is a victim of that phenomenon, but he and the country were saved by the gigantic majority of voters who understood this and understand history."

More tired low life ignorant right wing talking points. How typical of you. Trump is a victim? F*cking seriously???? Give it a rest.

[Robbie2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 3:30pm

Seb28 said: "Oh look, it's tomorrow!

What other roles would the people on here like to see her in?"

 

Florence in CHESS

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 3:31pm

Oh, Seb.  Tell us about how liberals were actually pro-slavery.  I love that one!

[Peter Barker]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 6:01pm

After reading elsewhere comments that were extreme and in many cases simply unhinged, I came here expecting a discussion somewhat more focused on the impact this issue has/will have on Nicole's  performance and continued association with Sunset Blvd. After digesting this thread with its wild tangents on Hitler's reputation, socialism, Catholics and Christians, and of course The Election, I realize that what is happening is that people are reacting to reactions of a reaction to a post. Once the conversation becomes that many levels and layers removed from the original topic, the points being made get lost. Similar to when couples start arguing about arguing and stop listening to each other, eventually forgetting that the initial conflict was over someone forgetting to pick up milk on the way home. Theater is one of the last places of refuge for me and a lot of others and it will be a sad day when the ability to see a performance or performer is determined by a group-think committee six degrees removed from the source.

[Robbie2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 8:37pm

blaxx said: "Robbie2 said: "Cancel cultutue is a toxic threat and destroying us and this is why Trump won the election.

We must stop !"



Yes, Trump won the election because of cancel culture."

[Lola Getz2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 9:44pm

I don’t believe “Cancel  Culture” is  a political movement. It is simply many individuals who have chosen not to give money to or support people whose goal is to take rights away from or otherwise harm individuals or groups. 
If enough individuals are offended that Nicole or Zachary or Louis CK or Diddy or whomever are supporting politicians or partake in behaviors which offends or threatens enough people who would rather not spend money or support such celebrities (even for a critically successful performance!!) that is OUR RIGHT. They are “cancelled” not by some insider underground “conspiracy”, but by enough INDIVIDUALS who just say enough is enough.  It is freedom of expression to say “you be you, Nicole, but you be you without my support. Bye.” I don’t believe anyone is saying she should be fired and never work again. She can always do the State Fair circuit. 

Some  people bemoaning “cancel culture” are the same people using the argument “Hey, Hitler wasn’t all bad, he was a pretty good painter!” 

It is THAT kind of thinking that got a rapist/misogynistic/racist and fraudulent felon reelected. 

[Ensemble1731275423]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 9:56pm

Yes it's youre absolute right but it is so dangerous.  Hope this doesn't happen to you or anyone you love.  Cancel culture IS DANEGROUS because it more often than not leads to shaming and social ostracism absent of due process, sometimes based on incomplete or out-of-context information. It prevents open dialogue like what's happening now and discourages people from expressing diverse viewpoints out of fear of backlash.

Updated On: 11/10/24 at 09:56 PM

[BenjaminNicholas2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 9:56pm

Aside from what she said or didn't say, saw the production today and was underwhelmed.

She was pitchy on songs and had odd issues with her vowels on big notes.

Understudies in for Joe and Betty.  Both underwhelming vocally and as actors.

I don't see the big deal about this production, as it only highlights the weakness of the material.

[Lola Getz2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 10:30pm

Ensemble1731275423 said: "Yes it's youre absolute right but it is so dangerous.  Hope this doesn't happen to you or anyone you love.  Cancel culture IS DANEGROUS because it more often than not leads to shaming and social ostracism absent of due process, sometimes based on incomplete or out-of-context information. It prevents open dialogue like what's happening now and discourages people from expressing diverse viewpoints out of fear of backlash."

 

How is it “dangerous” if I choose not to buy a ticket to a show because I cannot and will not support an actor who speaks out and shows solidarity with someone who is actively attempting to deny me of my rights? In fact, NOT doing so is what is dangerous. 

 

 

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 10:37pm

Wait til y’all hear about Amazon.

[Ensemble1731275423]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 10:55pm

that's your prerogative.  It seems like you have all the "facts" you need to judge a person's character.  Good for you.  I guess cancel culture is not an issue cause we don't rely on facts and due process nowadays anyway.

 

[Lola Getz2]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 11:18pm

Ensemble1731275423 said: "Yes it's youre absolute right but it is so dangerous.  Hope this doesn't happen to you or anyone you love.  Cancel culture IS DANEGROUS because it more often than not leads to shaming and social ostracism absent of due process, sometimes based on incomplete or out-of-context information. It prevents open dialogue like what's happening now and discourages people from expressing diverse viewpoints out of fear of backlash."

Did you join this board just to reply to my post? Is that you, Nicole? 

[blaxx]

Posted: 11/10/24 at 11:52pm

Lola Getz2 said: "Ensemble1731275423 said: "Yes it's youre absolute right but it is so dangerous. Hope this doesn't happen to you or anyone you love. Cancel culture IS DANEGROUS because it more often than not leads to shaming and social ostracism absent of due process, sometimes based on incomplete or out-of-context information. It preventsopen dialogue like what's happening now and discourages people from expressing diverse viewpoints out of fear of backlash."



How is it “dangerous” if I choose not to buy a ticket to a showbecause I cannot and will not support an actor who speaks out and shows solidarity with someone who is actively attempting to deny me of my rights? In fact, NOT doing so is what is dangerous.



"

It's not dangerous. The oppressor doesn't have a say on who you support. Hate is not an opinion either. 

[Ensemble1731275423]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 12:48am

No, I’m not Nicole. I wish I was that pretty and talented but I'm not.  

Nicole remains dedicated to entertaining audiences, regardless of the negative comments circulating in this echo chamber. I've been lurking at this forums for years now and just decided to join the forum as for the first time I felt I need to defend someone from bullies who claim to be advocates of tolerance but exhibit the same intolerant behavior as bigots.

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 12:48 AM

[Lola Getz2]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 1:10am

Where were you when it was time to defend Zachary Levi or Sierra Boggess from the so called bullies? 

[Ensemble1731275423]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:14am

Haha.  Comparing those other people with what she mistakenly did and already apologised for is a total reach.  Get off your high horse and touch some grass.

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 02:14 AM

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 2:27am

Ensemble1731275423 said: "Haha. Comparing those other people with what she mistakenly did and already apologised for is a total reach. Get off your high horse and touch somegrass."

She didn't accidently do ****, don't play dumb. 

[blaxx]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 3:53am

TheatreFan4 said: "Ensemble1731275423 said: "Haha. Comparing those other people with what she mistakenly did and already apologised for is a total reach. Get off your high horse and touch somegrass."

She didn't accidently do ****, don't play dumb."

And she didn't apologize, a PR team did.

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 7:55am

The person

[iluvtheatertrash]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 7:56am

The person trying to cancel LuPone in another thread for imaginary “racism” says cancel culture is dangerous. LOL. K.

[broadway86]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 8:41am

Ensemble1731275423 said: "I felt I need to defend someone from bullieswho claim to be advocates of tolerance but exhibit the same intolerant behavior as bigots."

Ever heard of the "paradox of tolerance"? If not, read up.

[Ensemble1731275423]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 8:47am

iluvtheatertrash said: "The person trying to cancel LuPone in another thread for imaginary “racism” says cancel culture is dangerous. LOL. K."

Lolz. That’s a different poster haha. 

[QueenAlice]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 9:15am

Wow, it's Monday and people are still talking about this. I imagine this is going to be part of the general narrative of the season, and I suspect you are also going to see a lot more attempts to expose people in the entertainment industry who might be 'traitors' to the Democratic Party, because the unspoken agreement in the Broadway community is that if you are not a liberal democrat you are not welcome on Broadway.  And Broadway would apparently rather take down its own, even if that meant hurting it's own livlihood, than focus its energy on anything that might actually help the causes it believes it needs to fight for.

I'm sorry but if you were to remove everyone in the Broadway community who might have voted for Trump, you wouldn't be able to put on a show, because that group is going to include a large amount of the producers, investors, behind the stage crew, and audience memnbers. And guess what not all of these people are automatically anti-gay, anti-trans, anti women rights.

I really think the Broadway community needs to have a serious conversation about how they are going to navigate this. The cut and dry "us verses them" mentality that has permeated the last eight years needs to be rethought - its not a smart strategy anymore. 

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 09:15 AM

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 11/11/24 at 9:28am

QueenAlice said: "Wow, it's Monday and people are still talking about this. I imagine this is going to be part of the general narrative of the season, and I suspect you are also going to see a lot more attempts to exposepeople in the entertainment industry who might be 'traitors' to the Democratic Party, because the unspoken agreement in the Broadway community is that if you are not a liberal democrat you are not welcome on Broadway. And Broadway would apparently rather take down its own, even if that meant hurting it's own livlihood, than focus its energy on anything that might actually help the causes it believes it needs to fight for.

I'm sorry but if you were to remove everyone in the Broadway community who might have voted for Trump, you wouldn't be able to put on a show, because that group is going to include a large amount of the producers, investors, behind the stage crew, and audience memnbers. And guess what not all of these people are automatically anti-gay, anti-trans, anti women rights.

I really think the Broadway community needs to have a serious conversation about how they are going to navigate this. The cut and dry "us verses them" mentality that has permeated the last eight years needs to be rethought - its not a smart strategy anymore."

Happy that you got all that off your chest, sweetheart? 

That disgusting orange piece of garbage has pledged to wreak hell on various minorities including members of the LGBTQ community. Perhaps that doesn’t bother you or the rest of you right wing comrades on here, Karen, but it deeply bothers many in the theatre world.