Nicole Scherzinger — Page 10

Yep, Trump won under the prevailing question of "why are you worried about [insert far left buzz word] when I can't afford groceries" and as a lifelong leftie myself, if we keep listening to the folks that scream the loudest on the internet, we're doomed to lose and lose and lose.

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Can you give an example of a far left buzzword, please?"

"Free Palestine", "Ukraine", "trans rights".

I forgot I had Jay blocked and thank god I do.

Yes, in exit polling and interviews and in the data, the economy won out. Couple that with the GOP candidate spending $200M on anti-trans advertising targeted at Democrats, yes people recoiled from it.

You don't need to waste your fingertips coming after me, I believe Palestinians should be free, that trans people deserve every single right that cis people have and Ukraine should be given a blank check as far as I'm concerned.

But the majority of this country said that they don't care about those things and that the economy is more of a determining factor. I don't make the rules, that's how it panned out. Argue with a wall.

For those who like data as part of their discussions, the current popular vote spread per the NYT is:

Donald Trump: 74,847,542 votes (50.4%)

Kamala Harris: 71,259,676 votes (48%)

The 2024 registered voter number I could find online is 186.5 million, so 40+million did not vote and a lot of people did not register to vote given the eligible population 18 or older is around 260 million.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-voters-have-a-party-affiliation/

I understand the frustration with the fact that people are spending so much time and energy on such a small issue.

However, I also disagree with everyone saying we're "canceling" or "censuring" her. If she got fired or somehow formally rebuked, sure, then let's have a discussion. But this situation is just individuals discussing their personal opinions. There is no sort of organized action or mobs in the street. I just don't think it's that out of bounds to discuss publicly available information and make personal decisions based on that. Especially since Nicole is more than able to make a clarifying statement to change people's mind if she so chooses.

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 04:07 PM

Bwaygurl2 said: "gibsons2 said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "Can you give an example of a far left buzzword, please?"

"Free Palestine", "Ukraine", "trans rights".

"

Those "examples" are absurd. Most far-left folks are against supporting Ukraine. "Settler colonialism" or "Latinx" would be better examples."

Yes, ironically, far left found themselves aligning with many far right stances. They both are anti Ukraine and antisemitic (yes, not anti-Israel government, but straight up antisemitic, as some of their actions showed). All of these college campuses encampments, protests, assaults, ganging up on Jewish businesses have backfired, predictably. These protests with "death to America" slogan and flag burning have been taken very negatively among immigrants who know the cost of succeeding in the US and obtaining a legal status here. Many of us naturalized citizens consider this country the only home and have nowhere to return to. The alternative is quite literally death, jail, poverty and homelessness. Shift to Trump in minority and immigrant groups doesn't surprise me a bit. It was a reactionary vote in many cases.

Updated On: 11/11/24 at 04:48 PM

BrodyFosse123 said: "Jvj24605 said: "Wow, it's Monday. People are still talking about it. And we're gonna keep talking about it for a long, long time. "

This is truly only being talked about on Broadway related sites and message boards. The mainstream masses are clueless about any of this. I asked 5 entertainment industryfriends and they first, have no idea there’s a SUNSET BLVD revival on Broadway right now, and second, are totally unaware of Nicole’s “alleged” backlash. Even a friend who’s close to Jake Spears is totally unaware of the trashing TAMMY FAYE is getting on message boards. She’s excited about attending the musical’s opening night."

Seeing that this was discussed this morning on the View (in Nicoles's favor) it's gone beyond the Broadway message boards. And, as the season and awards season progresses, will continue to do so.

gibsons2 said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "Can you give an example of a far left buzzword, please?"

"Free Palestine", "Ukraine", "trans rights""

Wait... there's no disagreement on this board on the need for our side to zealously defend the rights of our transgender friends, is there?

CreatureKitchen said: "I understand the frustration with the fact that people are spending so much time and energy on such a small issue."

You're more generous than I am, because I don't understand it. It's a thread on a message board. As you note, there is no coordinated effort to make the conversation here extend to the real world. So why are some so offended by the thread and the conversation's mere presence on this board? Can't they just...not read it?

So...exactly who wants to censor people?

Doesn't matter, she's cooked. Everyone knows it. Time to focus on other things.

Conveniently leaving out the support for Russell Brand and restricting reproductive choice. People keep trying to shift the conversation to what Trump policies she does or doesn't support when we can already see what she does support.

WOW looks like all this outrage calling for people to see Mandy instead and then LOVE has resulted in an outpour of support for Mandy tonight. Jks she has still barely sold anything and the balcony still closed.



Meanwhile Nicole has already practically sold out for tomorrow night, despite posts on reddit suggesting they do exchange performances (with hundreds of upvotes talking about being nice to box office staff) and someone here even saying they will refund! (which is very generous of them).



We generally don't seem to live in the real world sometimes.

Ok but sure the Tony voters will REMEMBERRRRR THISSSSSS MARK MY WORDSSSS111!1. Ok whatever. Niolce doesn't need these radical vengeful people to validate herself anymore.

I predict that this kind of behaviour will in the next few years become left behind when we hopefully have a new generation of reasonable, strategic, intelligent progressive leadership who recognise that they aren't going to hand this country over to an entire generation of Republican Leadership and the only way to achieve those goals is to once again return to a time of freedom of expression, mutual respect, acceptance that not everyone is going to buy your ideas and that's ok, honest and accurate description of reality.

Limiting freedom of expression and holding tyrannical views about what should happen to people if they don't agree with you only works in an authoritarian dictatorship not a democracy where people can just simply shut up as you tell them to and vote in private. Left-wing activists have hijacked the progressive movement and driven everyone off the cliff. It's time to leave them behind for the sake of our own movement or you risk becoming a marginalised fringe extreme that will have no influence or power except getting angry on social media.

Updated On: 11/12/24 at 02:53 AM