Posted: 2/22/23 at 10:59am
There's some gorgeous bunting going on both inside and outside the Jacobs — which was seemingly also the case at City Center.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:11am
RippedMan said: "I did actually grow up in a very inclusive part of the South given the different job opportunities. But, what I actually said was that I've been harassed more in NYC and hate crimed far more in NYC than ever growing up in South. But yes, back to show!"
What you said the first time could not have been more clear. I'm so sorry that happened to you here and I hope you found a place that you feel safe.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:19am
EDSOSLO858 said: "There's some gorgeous bunting going on both inside and outside the Jacobs — which was seemingly also the case at City Center."
Bunting?
(Yes, my point was pretty muffled for sure. My point being that the South gets a terrible reputation, for good reason, but that it can be a place of inclusion. My mother's best friend is Jewish and we did not think anything of it growing up. Wish more people could embrace their differences, but alas).
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:23am
RippedMan said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "There's some gorgeous bunting going on both inside and outside the Jacobs — which was seemingly also the case at City Center."
Bunting?
(Yes, my point was pretty muffled for sure. My point being that the South gets a terrible reputation, for good reason, but that it can be a place of inclusion. My mother's best friend is Jewish and we did not think anything of it growing up. Wish more people could embrace their differences, but alas)."
Bunting, meaning flags or other festive decorations:
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:23am
I’m a bit confused. From the video posted on Twitter, it looks like the 5-6 people were protesting paedophilia? The video was only 5 seconds long.
im just curious why these protesters targeted this show and not others like Leopoldstadt (or did they but it didn’t make the news?)
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:40am
Posted: 2/22/23 at 11:45am
EDSOSLO858 said: "RippedMan said: "EDSOSLO858 said: "There's some gorgeous bunting going on both inside and outside the Jacobs — which was seemingly also the case at City Center."
Bunting?
(Yes, my point was pretty muffled for sure. My point being that the South gets a terrible reputation, for good reason, but that it can be a place of inclusion. My mother's best friend is Jewish and we did not think anything of it growing up. Wish more people could embrace their differences, but alas)."
Bunting, meaning flags or other festive decorations:"
Thanks! I do love a good front of house decoration.
Yeah, I was confused once people starting throwing around anti-Semitism word since it seem they only cared about the pedo angel - which by all accounts seems odd too. But whatever. Seems stupid all around.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 12:20pm
Anti-Semites and Neo-Nazis are convinced that Leo Frank did all of the horrible things the prosecution said he did during the trial, including making sexual advances towards his younger employees. So that's why they're saying this musical glorifies a "pedophile," they consider Frank to have been one. They're probably protesting this shows and not others because it's about Frank, and they are VERY hung up on him specifically.
It's actually really disturbing: if you search the Leo Frank case online it's very easy to find their websites, which are chock full of misinformation. They also aren't overtly anti-Semitic enough that you would realize the information is false and anti-Semitic/Neo-Nazi propaganda unless you're really familiar with the facts of the case.
Updated On: 2/22/23 at 12:20 PM
Posted: 2/22/23 at 1:32pm
RippedMan said: "Yeah, I was confused once people starting throwing around anti-Semitism word since it seem they only cared about the pedo angel - which by all accounts seems odd too. But whatever. Seems stupid all around."
Yes, I'm sure that's the angle they're using. But to believe that's what they actually care about is just playing into their hand. It's much less socially acceptable to outright say they're antisemitic than that they're anti-pedophilia. This show is easy to protest because they can pretend Leo actually did the things he was accused of and they can pretend that's why they're angry. Also, if you look at the signs/fliers they had, they do explicitly mention Leo's Jewishness. Don't let them control the discussion--this is obviously about antisemitism.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 3:45pm
Nicticorax said: "
Yes, I'm sure that's the angle they're using. But to believe that's what they actually care about is just playing into their hand. It's much less socially acceptable to outright say they're antisemitic than that they're anti-pedophilia. This show is easy to protest because they can pretend Leo actually did the things he was accused of and they can pretend that's why they're angry. Also, if you look at the signs/fliers they had, they do explicitly mention Leo's Jewishness. Don't let them control the discussion--this is obviously about antisemitism."
Precisely. And well put. Which is why they are not doing their hateful and outrageous thing at the Longacre for LEOPOLDSTADT, which does not give them the opportunity to cloak their ant-Semitism in pedophilia, or at MJ -- which does not give them the opportunity to be anti-Semitic.
Updated On: 2/22/23 at 03:45 PM
Posted: 2/22/23 at 4:15pm
Nicticorax said: "RippedMan said: "Yeah, I was confused once people starting throwing around anti-Semitism word since it seem they only cared about the pedo angel - which by all accounts seems odd too. But whatever. Seems stupid all around."
Yes, I'm sure that's the angle they're using. But to believe that's what they actually care about is just playing into their hand. It's much less socially acceptable to outright say they're antisemitic than that they're anti-pedophilia. This show is easy to protest because they can pretend Leo actually did the things he was accused of and they can pretend that's why they're angry. Also, if you look at the signs/fliers they had, they do explicitly mention Leo's Jewishness. Don't let them control the discussion--this is obviously about antisemitism.
For sure!
Posted: 2/22/23 at 8:00pm
For anyone who’s curious, I just walked past the Jacobs and there is a huge police/security presence outside. Line to get in is pretty backed up with the extra bag checking and metal detectors.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 8:51pm
It's good to have the extra security because of these antisemitic protestors but I just wish we did not have to do this, but this is the country we live in! I will know to come early when I see the show in April.
Posted: 2/22/23 at 9:10pm
So well-put!
Some of the responses here are pretty disheartening. Its a show about an anti-Semitic lynching of a man falsely accused of murdering a little girl. If you show up to suggest he was JUSTLY convicted--let alone shout it angrily at theatergoers-- yeah, you're not there because you are an activist for the poor children.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 2:03pm
The funny thing is, like the Streisand effect, the protestors have brought more attention to the show by being there than they would had they just ignored it. The show has now got NYTimes, Variety, CBS, Washington Post, NBC, Hollywood review, Rolling Stone among other press out of it, and the instagram post condemning the protest has over 3x as more likes than any other post on their instagram channel plus many more comments. Hopefully the coverage doesn't put people off attending the show - and helps word of the show spread to the people that would be most interested in it. And of course it does help justify its own existence too.
Updated On: 2/23/23 at 02:03 PM
Posted: 2/23/23 at 3:41pm
I have been a fan of this musical since the original production and can’t wait to see this revival! Just the other day I found out that there was a miniseries from 1988 called The Murder of Mary Phagan starring Jack Lemmon and Peter Gallagher. I had no idea about this! Has anyone seen it before? The whole thing is on YouTube and may check it out before revisiting the musical.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 4:04pm
Posted: 2/23/23 at 4:29pm
I rewatched this miniseries recently. It was a little longer than it needed to be, but decent. I’d recommend it if just to get some additional details about the story.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 4:30pm
HoldYourBatBoy2 said: "I have been a fan of this musical since the original production and can’t wait to see this revival! Just the other day I found out that there was a miniseries from 1988 called The Murder of Mary Phagan starring Jack Lemmon and Peter Gallagher. I had no idea about this! Has anyone seen it before? The whole thing is on YouTube and may check it out before revisiting the musical."
Yes, I saw it when it aired and recall it being excellent. It won the Emmy for best miniseries and was my first exposure to the Leo Frank story. Definitely check it out. FYI there’s also a very good book about the case titled “And the Dead Shall Rise.”
Posted: 2/23/23 at 5:15pm
pethian said: "Nicticorax said: "
Yes, I'm sure that's the angle they're using. But to believe that's what they actually care about is just playing into their hand. It's much less socially acceptable to outright say they're antisemitic than that they're anti-pedophilia. This show is easy to protest because they can pretend Leo actually did the things he was accused of and they can pretend that's why they're angry. Also, if you look at the signs/fliers they had, they do explicitly mention Leo's Jewishness. Don't let them control the discussion--this is obviously about antisemitism."
Precisely. And well put. Which is why they are not doing their hateful and outrageous thing at the Longacre for LEOPOLDSTADT, which does not give them the opportunity to cloak their ant-Semitism in pedophilia, or at MJ -- which does not give them the opportunity to be anti-Semitic.
"
100% - WOW. Never thought about it like this.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 6:44pm
Yup. I saw the miniseries many years ago, way before I had ever heard of the musical. I remember thinking it was a very well done film (I think it was two 2-hour parts) and because of that I knew the whole story well before seeing Parade.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 7:42pm
Can anyone who’s seen the show give us an indication on how they think this show will do at the Tonys?
Posted: 2/23/23 at 8:22pm
I know it's already been addressed but please don't be fooled by the "it's about the pedophila" angle. These nazi's are there on behalf of organizations with names like "the goyim defense league", their agendas are clear. Entertaining their idea that Frank was a pedophile simply lends their other thoughts about Jewish people credibility it does not need.
Posted: 2/23/23 at 8:51pm
Posted: 2/23/23 at 11:43pm
Saw this tonight. An exceptional production. Really well done. Most every actor is pitch perfect but I had the most issues with Platt. I felt the show highlights his lack of range as an actor. I felt he lacked the gravitas of the other company members. I found his performance very “Evan” -even using the same hand gestures and body language at times. He seemed like a teen at times, not a grown man in the middle of a harrowing tragedy. Are directors afraid to give him notes? His vibrato wore on me as well. He had some solid moments but he left me cold overall. He was serviceable.
Diamond is exquisite. She’s just exceptional. The supporting cast and ensemble are impeccable. The staging is really effective. I recommend only seeing this show from the mezzanine to get the full scope of its power.
