SLAVE PLAY headed to London? — Page 2

I'd more excited about Fisayo Akinade who's been in a bunch of stuff.

FIVE years? That's generous.

TimeToStartLivin said: "The TONYS cameduring Covid when few shows were open. Slave Play was an anomaly and to claim the nominations, while true, are really misleading. Saying it was a "huge Broadway hit" is also really poor reporting. Slave Play couldn't give tickets away. They hardly could sell out 1/4 of the house, and that only through the dedication (misguided, I'd say) of its producers who seemed OK tolose money in the name of supporting a new black Yale wunderkind playwright who happened to write a ****ty play but sold the producers on his brand of koolaid.Itwas a precocious ego effort at best. What has he done since? And this "Black Out"**** for "safety" for black audiences, and "free from the White gaze"? What the hell is that? Why is no one calling out this racism at its worst?And making the show affordable to underprivileged people? They could not give tickets away in NY. No one wanted to see the show. Curious to see who will buy the 30 pay-what-you-can tickets and 10 seats priced at£20. WOW! 40 tickets !!!!!!! I hope the London audienceand press eviscerates this show both for its racism and how crappy the show is."

who hurt you my guy?

I don't think O' Harris is very interested in trying to at least, appear as appeasing. Moreover, this-gaze and that-gaze are very common terms now, used for so many things. Can't believe people are responding to Daily Heil articles.

TimeToStartLivin said: "Why is no one calling out this racism at its worst?"

Setting aside two performances of one play out of a three-month run is racism at its worst? Are you really prepared to defend that claim?

TimeToStartLivin said: "The TONYS cameduring Covid when few shows were open. Slave Play was an anomaly and to claim the nominations, while true, are really misleading. Saying it was a "huge Broadway hit" is also really poor reporting. Slave Play couldn't give tickets away. They hardly could sell out 1/4 of the house, and that only through the dedication (misguided, I'd say) of its producers who seemed OK tolose money in the name of supporting a new black Yale wunderkind playwright who happened to write a ****ty play but sold the producers on his brand of koolaid.Itwas a precocious ego effort at best. What has he done since? And this "Black Out"**** for "safety" for black audiences, and "free from the White gaze"? What the hell is that? Why is no one calling out this racism at its worst?And making the show affordable to underprivileged people? They could not give tickets away in NY. No one wanted to see the show. Curious to see who will buy the 30 pay-what-you-can tickets and 10 seats priced at£20. WOW! 40 tickets !!!!!!! I hope the London audienceand press eviscerates this show both for its racism and how crappy the show is."

rac·ism

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noun

1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
   
   "a program to combat racism"

binau said: "I'm starting to think that this whole thing is/was a publicity stunt lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/feb/29/no-10-condemns-london-theatre-for-hosting-black-out-nights"

"To be absolutely clear, no one will be prevented or precluded from attending any performance of Slave Play." –– the producers of the show in that article

It's been done on other shows with little controversy. The wording surrounding it may be poorly done. They're simply encouraging Black audiences to attend those nights. It's a larger-scale version of "Girls Nights Out" or "LGBTQ Night" or "Student Matinees" or other things that have been done for decades at theatres around the world, where people from certain groups are encouraged to attend and it offers a sense of community.

The nonsense surrounding this initiative is fairly stupid, but as we know, the Right likes to make a mountain out of a molehill.

He did black out nights on Broadway so it makes sense he would repeat that in the UK.

And this "Black Out" **** for "safety" for black audiences, and "free from the White gaze"? What the hell is that? Why is no one calling out this racism at its worst? And making the show affordable to underprivileged people?

Tell me you're white and clueless without telling me you're white and clueless. And damn those affordable tickets for people who otherwise couldn't attend the theater, they are the WORST! And for people triggered that they are excluded from two performances in the entire run? Get a life. No, seriously.

binau said: ""Tell me you're white and clueless" -god - is this the level of argument that is considered not just acceptable but even morally virtuous in the USA today? Imagine if you said "Tell me you're black and clueless" in response to something someone said. It feels ugly to be using people's race in an insult, and I'm pretty sure in a couple decades we will look back on these times and be shocked at how we spoke to each other, and use it as an example of how not to create a healthy functioning diverse inclusive society.I realise you're probably not actually looking to change anyone's mind and you're just enjoying speaking like that anonymously over the internet, but if you do you really do need to respond to the actual points."

Except black people don't have a centuries long history of oppressing white people. So it's really apples and oranges.

It's also amazing seeing people complain they are excluded from a night or two of a show they have absolutely no interest in seeing.

The people complaining were NEVER going to watch this in the first place. I can't believe that a rag like DM still manages to get so much attention. Was anyone even aware of the moaners before that article got published?

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "binau said: "I'm starting to think that this whole thing is/was a publicity stunt lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/feb/29/no-10-condemns-london-theatre-for-hosting-black-out-nights"

"To be absolutely clear, no one will be prevented or precluded from attending any performance of Slave Play." –– the producers of the show in that article

It's been done on other shows with little controversy. The wording surrounding it may be poorly done. They're simply encouraging Black audiences to attend those nights. It's a larger-scale version of "Girls Nights Out" or "LGBTQ Night" or "Student Matinees" or other things that have been done for decades at theatres around the world, where people from certain groups are encouraged to attend and it offers a sense of community.

The nonsense surrounding this initiative is fairly stupid, but as we know, the Right likes to make a mountain out of a molehill."

the Right likes to make the mountain, yes, but sometimes the Left wants it to. This is a publicity stunt, of course, because there can be no such thing as "no White people allowed to buy tickets tonight"- how would they enforce that? its preposterous--and so it really is just a way to encourage/welcome Black theatergoers to special performances. Its harmless.

AND SO THEREFORE Jeremy O Harris has smartly/intentionally marketed it to be something it isnt, to get headlines, and piss off the usual pearl-clutchers, and rally the woke troops. And on it goes.

"Oddly, I don’t remember the “Black Out” performances being an issue here."

I assume it's a combination of more publicity for this one due to cast involved, the use of 'white gaze' which I would say is pretty race-baity and also I want to emphasise that the UK is not the US. People don't seem to always understand that many of the US concepts and issues around race (for example) do not necessarily apply or resonate well when exported to the rest of the world.

Too often I think Americans have a tendency to believe that their way of thinking should make its way everywhere or is even relevant for other countries. There also seems to be this odd homogenous treatment of black people in Western countries as if the issues are the same. While there are similarities, there are big differences between the history and experience of black people across US, UK, Australia/NZ and Europe. The USA Black African American experience is something very specific to the USA, and exporting ideas around this elsewhere on this should probably be done more carefully than it is now.

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I could care less about having those special nights, but I do find it interesting that a show whose entire conceptual design revolved around having mirrors across the stage so that everyone could watch themselves and others watching the play is now suddenly concerned about anyone's gaze.