SOME LIKE IT HOT- Starts at the Shubert November 1- Page 3

[BritCrit]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 7:22am

VintageSnarker said: "CableCableCable said: "They say there should not be a show about: a man dressing as a woman to trick people."

Genuine question. Is this the line or is the problem that they've been comedies? Would Yentl be acceptable? The Breadwinner? Mulan? And is there a specific distaste for a "man in a dress" rather than a woman?

I don't think we should be telling stories where the primary humor comes from a man looking ridiculous dressed as a woman (or a woman looking ridiculous dressed as a man). But it does seem like with Tootsie and Mrs. Doubtfire, part of the problem is that the cishet characters aren't overcoming structural boundaries or claiming opportunities denied to them but stomping personal boundaries and taking opportunities they don't deserve. Arguably, Victor/Victoria is more similar to Tootsie/Doubtfire in the nature of the deception while La Cage aux Folles would get a pass."

Fair point. I think a lot of the backlash is to "men in drag" in particular. I am writing from Britain, where the debate over trans rights is particularly aggressive, and the reason for this is the fear that men will use relaxations in self-id/transitioning laws to "invade" women's spaces such as domestic shelters and sports contests (There is also the fear that moves towards "gender neutral" language primarily affect females). These fears have been blown out of proportion, but they need to be treated with some level of delicacy and sensitivity.

W/ regards to "women disguised as men", there is less of a concern because it doesn't feed into the narrative of "women under threat"...

Updated On: 4/21/22 at 07:22 AM

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 7:30am

CableCableCable said: "I am not Trans

I am friends with and love a lot of Trans people

They say there should not be a show about: a man dressing as a woman to trick people.

We should believe Trans people.

Broadway should be about the best of us.



"

Your trans friends aren't the arbiter of what should or should not be on Broadway. Different folks have different ideas about these things. 

 

[BritCrit]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 7:56am

Bwaygurl2 said: "Your trans friends aren't the arbiter of what should or should not be on Broadway. Different folks have different ideas about these things."

I think that there should definitely be a lot more sensitivity towards the trans community, and more realistic and honest portrayals of gender fluidity. But I don't think that Christian Lewis' "zero tolerance" perspective is inherently right, or J. Harrison Ghee's "Work with these productions" approach is inherently wrong...

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 8:25am

This makes me think of the Kathy Griffin clip of her a prison:

Kathy: Hi Ladies!

Inmate: I hate you!

Kathy: Yeah, take a number honey!

This isn't for the "woke" crowd. I bet the target audience is people who loved the movie, and would want to see it on stage, and it can tour the country and everyone will think its a nice little show. They are trying to bring some 2022 agency to the show, to try and get some of that "woke" demographic, but (I feel) will never satisfy them. I feel like they will run for a year or two and we'll move on.

[DramaTeach]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 8:33am

This conversation is exactly what I said I was worried about. It’s not going to satisfy the younger crowd and will be too woke for the older generation. It hasn’t even opened yet, and people’s reactions to the impending arrival are not what I’d think the backers would want. I’ll be there.

[BritCrit]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 8:38am

fashionguru_23 said: "This makes me think of the Kathy Griffin clip of her a prison:

Kathy: Hi Ladies!

Inmate: I hate you!

Kathy: Yeah, take a number honey!

This isn't for the "woke" crowd. I bet the target audience is people who loved the movie, and would want to see it on stage, and it can tour the country and everyone will think its a nice little show. They are trying to bring some 2022 agency to the show, to try and get some of that "woke" demographic, but (I feel) will never satisfy them. I feel like they will run for a year or two and we'll move on."

Tootsie closed before Doubtfire arrived. Doubtfire probably won't make it to November (barring a major Summer comeback). Does that mean SLIH will survive until another "cishet in drag" musical comes along? Because we're pretty much out of popular films in that subgenre...

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 11:32am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Two other things:

1) Anyone complaining about the artwork obviously hasn't seen the "art" for Funny Girl or 2nd Stage or American Buffalo or Mr. Saturday Night... Seems like this is trying to evoke an old travel ad, which makes sense for the show.

FYI - Obviously you know nothing. I have seen the artwork for "Funny Girl" and "American Buffalo" and "Mr. Saturday Night" and I stand by my opinion. 

You're free to have yours.

Have a nice day.

 

 

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 1:25pm

I still like the art, but had to laugh at this description of it:

"Some Like It Hot: The story of a tiny bassist who stares directly into the vulva of an enormous woman in a world where everyone has only one leg."

[jkcohen626]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 1:29pm

I actually kinda love the art!

[stlrod]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 1:30pm

My prediction for the 2023-2024 Season:  Bosom Buddies, the Musical!

[Theatrelover1975]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 2:02pm

I’ve heard this version has been updated to the 1950’s hence Sugar’s 50’s dress in the artwork. Can anyone that saw the workshop confirm?

[BroadwayGuy12]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 2:33pm

The show as presented in the workshop was still very much set in the Prohibition Era, not the 1950s.

[WestEndGal]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 4:26pm

BritCrit said: "Bwaygurl2 said: "Your trans friends aren't the arbiter of what should or should not be on Broadway. Different folks have different ideas about these things."

I think that there should definitely be a lot more sensitivity towards the trans community, and more realistic and honest portrayals of gender fluidity. But I don't think that Christian Lewis' "zero tolerance" perspective is inherently right, or J. Harrison Ghee's "Work with these productions" approach is inherently wrong..."

This! At the very least let people see the production first before condemning it as transphobic! 

[YvanEhtNioj]

Posted: 4/21/22 at 4:46pm

DramaTeach said: "I want to love this. I hope I love this. The people involved are top shelf. But what I’ve heard from people who’ve attended the last workshop makes me hesitant. ??"

What's been the feedback? 

[Playland]

Posted: 6/1/22 at 10:42am

Hi - I saw Some Like It Hot during the Open Rehearsal - it was wonderful!

I was not familiar with J. Harrison Ghee and his non-binary status prior to seeing this show.  My friend and I both agreed that J. Harrison Ghee is certainly going to be nominated for a Tony Award as well as the gentleman playing Osgood.  Their relationship was the highlight of the show and was beautifully written and acted.

My only issue this that this show will cost me a lot of money; I raved about it so much that my family of five is expecting me to treat them to the show and to dinner before the show.

 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 7/13/22 at 1:49pm

If this is the best song to show off the score.... Pass...

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/VIDEO-Christian-Borle-J-Harrison-Ghee-Adrianna-Hicks-and-More-in-SOME-LIKE-IT-HOT-Music-Video-20220713

[Fordham2015]

Posted: 7/13/22 at 3:00pm

RippedMan said: "If this is the best song to show off the score.... Pass...

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/VIDEO-Christian-Borle-J-Harrison-Ghee-Adrianna-Hicks-and-More-in-SOME-LIKE-IT-HOT-Music-Video-20220713"

Agreed, how many mixed metaphors can you fit into one song?

[Owen22]

Posted: 7/13/22 at 3:04pm

RippedMan said: "If this is the best song to show off the score.... Pass...

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/VIDEO-Christian-Borle-J-Harrison-Ghee-Adrianna-Hicks-and-More-in-SOME-LIKE-IT-HOT-Music-Video-20220713"

Well, at least it doesn't sound like it's from "Kinky Boots".

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 7/13/22 at 3:50pm

Sounds leagues better than that dreck that DEVIL WEARS PRADA released of Elton John today. It sounds like classic Shaiman & Wittman, with a great Charlie Rosen orchestration.

That doesn't mean the whole score will be great, but I enjoyed this one song.

Updated On: 7/13/22 at 03:50 PM