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Kad said: "(I also think the ending of Part 1 is manipulative, and went on long enough to become somewhat absurd- and a staging concept that has zero payoff in the second part)."

100000% agree. It was definitely manipulative and didn't necessarily feel earned (as others have discussed), but that moment still got to me... and then it kept going, and going, and going, and going. It was so long that most of the people who started crying in my area stopped sniffling well before it was over. It became clear that Daldry was bringing on enough actors to fill three sides of the rectangle, which just made me annoyed. He must have known it was too long, but did it anyway just to get the closing visual he wanted?

haterobics said: "I'm completely confounded whether to spend an entire day, and good chunk of change, to see this show... usually with polarizing shows, I can sort of sort out which side I'm likely to land. But not this one. Ack."

I mean if you want to see it you should see it. I will say, based on the London reviews I seem to be in the minority. Although the friend I went with had similar feelings to mine. (Actually he enjoyed Part 2 more. I didn't care for either.)

Saw both parts last weekend, Friday then Saturday night. It was the most self-serving, self-indulgent, over stuffed, meandering, and preachy piece I've seen. And damn is it also great. I've read all the reviews in this thread and I'd say I agree with, well, all of them. The positive and the negative, it's all there. This show has MOMENTS that are all-timers for drama and intensity. And it has plots and scenes that get too cute, try too hard, and go on far too long. There is a superb 3 hour story in this 7 hour show. Those bits I keep thinking about and string together into one coherent thread that has me thinking back fondly. I want to see it again just for those moments and scenes. Then I remember the other stuff.

It's hard to overlook the bad parts, they outweigh the good part in terms of showtime. The speeches go on too long, the philosophical banter draws away from the plot, and the sex scenes... I was not prepared for just how explicitly pornographic they were, though mostly in verbal description. There is some great acting, and some surprisingly bad acting. Sometimes the same actor would go from bad to great depending on the scene/character they were inhabiting.

Overall it felt like a first draft. Everything thought that Lopez had was written down and then just left in. Cheeky jokes about long plays with two intermissions (as this is) were funny but in the wrong way. The show would be better served by cutting those and other unnecessary bits. I can understand why the script reads well, it felt like a novel being read to me rather than a story being shown to me. When I did get the story in traditional format (the format changes A LOT) I was engaged and invested in the characters.

This was a great show mixed in with a bunch of garbage. For me, it was ultimately worth it to sift through the garbage for the great. I did not feel that way after Part I, but after seeing both parts I did. I had to have the completed story to feel satisfied that I found the great show within.

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I see both sides of this debate. This play is as great as it is execrable. I sat there often struck by genius but just as often annoyed beyond measure. The humor though occasionally brilliant is generally insipid. The ending - I will probably be massacred for this - is manipulative and cloyingly sentimental; a case of more being so much less. Eric's arrival at the house would have been so much more affecting if the author had respected the audience's hearts and minds to grasp Eric's spiritual communion without hitting us over the head with it. The iconic final tableau (a pastiche of a famous religious painting) is ridiculous.

But then there are scenes of exquisite structure when Lopez smartly knows exactly what he's doing and writes with great truth and feeling which match and earn his inventiveness. Lopez's idea - interpolating Howards End and Forster's own life in this multigenerational story of gay late 20th and early 21st century life in New York is a visionary one. The cast that invests every fiber of their being. The two most captivating (in each case double) roles go to Samuel H. Levine and Paul Hilton. Both are outstanding.

Updated On: 11/8/19 at 07:00 AM

Kyle Soller seems to be a very talented actor. Eric Glass is as flat as a pancake. He simply isn’t interesting. He’s rather a Chamaeleon, isn’t he? Adapting to who ever is the most influential person in his life at the moment, reflecting their opinions and viewpoints. standing up for them if necessary, even at the cost of his circle of friends. He's also a bit of as a gold digger and I think that opinion is pretty arguable. I think Kyle has the chops to make Eric pleasant enough company but the character is thin. Toby is more the dominating force. It feels like this is the character the playwright loves best. What Andrew Burnap is doing with that role throughout the play, his very clear arc, is exquisite. I can’t wait to see this actor in other things.

Updated On: 11/23/19 at 11:14 AM

I don't think there's really a bad seat for this. I sat last row of the orch, house left, for Part 1, and second row center of the second half of mezz for Part 2. Both were great views.

There isn't much of the way of set and everything is played front and center.

haterobics said: "It seems like I am doing alternate programming by seeing this on the Saturday after Thanksgiving, but any word on where to sit/not sit? Be sure to be close? Mezzanine is amazing? What's the good word?"

As someone who has sat front row center for both parts, I would really recommend choosing seats from the fourth row onward. The set is a square platform. The first and second rows are obstructed view for anything happening upstage. Moments played downstage were just fine and there were moments that were truly lovely to be so close to. However, if you want a real view of the action and it’s entirety, I wouldn’t go any closer than the fourth row.

Chowd95 said: "Plus you might get a used Q-Tip or pizza box thrown at you :)"

True story.

Come to think of it....and please let me know if I’m misremembering this....isn’t Adam the only character who ever directly involves the audience?

I’m not talking about any of the narrative language that stretches through the whole thing. And not climbing over the seats or dropping off the stage, pretending the audience isn’t there. I mean in the sense that both actor and character are acknowledging the audience in a way that admits, “Yes, we’re at the Barrymore in New York and this is only a play.” And isn’t it only in the Prague bathhouse scene that this ever happens?

Two moments come to mind. The Q-Tip bit where Adam cleans his ears and tosses it out at the audience. And the end of the Prague story regarding the hiv scare when Adam buries his face in his hands, sobbing, thoroughly convincing Toby of his vulnerability, before turning away and looking directly at the audience with a smug nasty grin. As if to say, “I fooled him, you’re in on it, and this is our little secret.”

Oh! Yes, and an actor sitting downstage left at the “table” does toss a book out to the first couple rows

Are there any other moments like that in the play? From Adam or anyone? It seems very odd to have an actor essentially break character for two bits in one scene and another actor break character for one bit much much much later in the play. Should a choice like that be more reoccurring, as in should it be a committed part of the vision rather than just a couple larks?

Again, if there are more and I’m not remembering, please let me know

Updated On: 11/9/19 at 01:36 AM

Eddie3 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "I saw part one last night, almost exactly one year after seeing it on the west end. When part one ended last year, I remember sitting there almost shellshocked and still crying, as people were leaving the theatre. And my reaction last night was virtually the same. So many things I had forgotten that triggered an instantaneous emotional reaction from me. When the chair was brought out for Walter at the end of act one I started crying knowing I was about to see again one of the greatest monologues I’ll ever see live on stage. When the house was first mentioned, when the letter was shown to Henry, when Eric gets out of the car at the end and many more. So many scenes and moments that are written, performed and staged so simply and so beautifully that even though I’d forgotten them they came rushing back to me in the moment.

Is it a perfect play? I don’t know, does it need to be?
Is it a perfect play to me? Yes. Very much so, it is. I feel a lot of dissection of the play is from people (not everyone but a lot) not wanting it to be as good as people say it is, which is a shame. I find it hard to put into words just how much it moves me or even how I feel about it in general. But the somber collective and communal experience I had with everyone else at the Barrymore last night shows me that I’m not alone in my praise and my admiration for it and I hope more people grow to feel the same way."

Thank you for your posting. I saw The Inheritance at the Young Vic. My reactions were very similar to yours. I don't understand a lot of the other comments here, but I do understand the way the play made me (and the audience around me) feel and am happy that there are others who continue to respondsimilarly.

I think Dominic Cavendish's review in The Telegraph is as spot on as any review is likely to be. Here it is:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/what-to-see/inheritance-young-vic-reviewperhaps-important-american-play/

I saw this at the Young Vic as well. No expectations and only one person I knew saw it. I came to my mostly, but not all, negative opinions all by myself.

A plot question for anyone who has seen it: