Posted: 10/18/19 at 8:14pm
Posted: 10/18/19 at 8:44pm
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:09pm
It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too. Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission. People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception."
They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel.
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:17pm
Theater3232 said: "It's not just the critics who hated this show - it's the audiences too. Rows and rows of empty seats after intermission. People saying "I never leave a show at intermission, but this is the exception."
They have nobody to blame for themselves for this complete misfire of a show. Worst I've seen on Broadway in the entire decade. Hopefully they post a closing notice on Monday once the new Grosses come out; those Grosses aren't going to suddenly rise from the bottom of the barrel."
It takes a truly special and unique kind of pettiness to "hope" for people to lose their jobs, no matter how much of a misfire the show's transfer to Broadway has been (and it was ill-timed at the very least given the amount of work needed on staging and the book).
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:18pm
Did that thread about the tweet get deleted? I understand the "scrappy" attitude of their Twitter account, but that tweet was just bizarre and it's still on their account, and they seem to stand by it.
Posted: 10/18/19 at 9:31pm
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:40pm
Of course it was deleted, just like any interesting thread lately.
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:49pm
Posted: 10/18/19 at 10:50pm
You've been told. This is a happy talk only zone.
Posted: 10/19/19 at 5:22am
it was absolutely an attack on the critics and a tacky one at that
Posted: 10/19/19 at 7:42am
Posted: 10/19/19 at 7:58am
Posted: 10/19/19 at 11:22am
A tacky and juvenile move by the show which is reflective of the overall quality of the show in general.
Posted: 10/19/19 at 2:01pm
Posted: 10/19/19 at 3:54pm
Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices.
Posted: 10/19/19 at 10:01pm
VintageSnarker said: "Am I missing something? Doesn't Percy Jackson center the story on the experience of a cis het white boy? Does it really get points because it's not about a middle-aged man having a crisis over his adult life choices? Because there are plenty of shows, movies, etc. about teenage boys having a crisis over their coming of age life choices."
It's complicated by the fact Chris McCarrell is white, but the source material (ie the books) and portrayal onstage in the form of Jalynn Steele as Sally Jackson (Percy's mother) have Percy as being biracial and coming out of a home with domestic violence (the book is a little more detailed than the one scene we get of stepfather Gabe in the musical). So it's not quite the same (and while Percy is depicted as cis, I don't believe Riordan has ever directly given Percy a specific orientation unless it's in a book I've yet to read) as being just another story in the same vein (ie, DEH).
Posted: 10/19/19 at 11:33pm
Posted: 10/20/19 at 12:38am
I just realized Jesse Green (the NYT critic who panned Lightning Thief) is openly gay. Hoo boy, that was a bit of an oversight.
Posted: 10/20/19 at 1:14am
The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."
While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please.
Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in a position of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate.
Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppression against straight, white men in the theatre, yeah?
Updated On: 10/20/19 at 01:14 AM
Posted: 10/20/19 at 4:45am
NVM, I figured it out.
Updated On: 10/20/19 at 04:45 AM
Posted: 10/20/19 at 9:15am
imissthemusic2 said: "The Distinctive Baritone said: "Is it me, or does “cis het” sound like a derogatory term? To me it seems like calling someone a “homo.” I’m not a fan, especially since we “cis het” males are usually not in positions of power when it comes to musical theater - quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t think The New York Times has had a straight male theater critic since Frank Rich left in the 1990’s. It’s like...not even accurate whining."
While I understand where you're coming from, please don't try and compare an actual gay slur with a history of oppression with a shorthand phrase used for the group of people who are historically the oppressors of gay people, please.
Also, please check out actual demographics re: who is in aposition of power/majority in the theatre. I think you'll find your claim to be inaccurate.
Not saying I necessarily agree with what the LT twitter did, but like, let's not try and imply that there's any sort of systematic oppressionagainst straight, white men in the theatre, yeah?"
That’s not what I was implying. But a slur is a slur, even if it’s towards straight white men. And as someone who has been in show business for 14 years now, trust me: when it comes to musical theatre, 75% of male directors, music directors, choreographers, casting directors, critics - the people who make the big decisions - are gay. I’m all about taking down the patriarchy, but let’s keep the facts straight and not insult the allys.
Posted: 10/20/19 at 9:57am
Do you really think they'll post a closing notice tomorrow?
Posted: 10/20/19 at 10:05am
@baritone, sorry to break the news to you but the "big decisions" are made by producers, and the vast majority of them are not gay men. As to the rest, there is obviously a high proportion but not 75%. And what you have said about "cis het" misapprehends the nature of slurs. The term requires intent, and in this case there is none.
Posted: 10/20/19 at 11:05am
