WEST SIDE STORY (2019 Revival) Preview Thread- Page 4

[uncageg]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:09pm

laurensambrose said: "That merch looks incredibly cheaply made."

 

Really?! I think it is pretty hard to tell that just from a pic! I actually like the design.

 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:11pm

laurensambrose said: "That merch looks incredibly cheaply made."

I’d agree if you meant designed, but made? It’s the same as any other merch from any other show.... 

[msmp]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:12pm

laurensambrose said: "That merch looks incredibly cheaply made."

The designing matches this revival perfectly: dull and uninspired and having no connection to the source material.

[JBC3]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:12pm

Anyone who looks at the promotional materials for this show and expects they will be seeing a traditional version of West Side Story deserves to experience something different. Nothing about the messaging for this show even remotely reflects the imagery and tone of what usually is used.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:15pm

Globefan said: "Jerry Robbins came up with the original concept in 1947!"

And he is dead, which is kinda a disqualifier for a director. Think what you may of Ivo, he is alive. We sanctify the dead in churches and cemeteries.

[msmp]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:17pm

This is all secondhand, but my closest industry friend's social circle is basically all mortified at the changes made based on the invited dress. I'm really curious what the critical take is going to be, especially with (based on what's been said here and elsewhere) the de-emphasis of the female roles.

[Globefan]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:21pm

msmp said: "This is all secondhand, but my closest industry friend's social circle is basically all mortified at the changes made based on the invited dress. I'm really curious what the critical take is going to be, especially with (based on what's been said here and elsewhere) the de-emphasis of the female roles."

And also the casting of Amar Ramasar. Ugh 

[msmp]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:25pm

Globefan said: "msmp said: "This is all secondhand, but my closest industry friend's social circle is basically all mortified at the changes made based on the invited dress. I'm really curious what the critical take is going to be, especially with (based on what's been said here and elsewhere) the de-emphasis of the female roles."

And also the casting of Amar Ramasar. Ugh"

Goes without saying that this was the first strike against the production with nearly everyone I know (and I don't hold that out as a representative sample, of course!).

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:26pm

Luminaire2 said: "First preview is today. So here’s a New York Post article from today, with words from the Ballet dancer at the forefront of what Amar and his colleagues did to women in their company.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/10/city-ballerina-alexandra-waterbury-blasts-amar-ramasars-west-side-story-debut/amp/

Happy first preview."

Here's her post on Instagram for anyone who wants to read it directly: https://www.instagram.com/p/B55ZumnAHG1

[Impossible2]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:38pm

Can we start a separate 'predator' thread so we don't have to read this crud in every thread about the show?

That way you can all hang out in the one place churning up the same hatred and the rest of us can read about the previews which is what this thread is actually about?

[Chowd95]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:41pm

Impossible2 said: "Can we start a separate 'predator' thread so we don't have to read this crudin every thread about the show?

That way you can all hang out in the one place churning up the same hatredand the rest of us can read about the previews which is what this thread is actually about?"

Thank you

[Highland Guy]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:41pm

Globefan said: "And also the casting of Amar Ramasar. Ugh"

 

Here we go.  Again.  And again.  And again and again and again and again and..........

 

[JSquared2]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:44pm

Impossible2 said: "Can we start a separate 'predator' thread so we don't have to read this crudin every thread about the show?

That way you can all hang out in the one place churning up the same hatredand the rest of us can read about the previews which is what this thread is actually about?"

AMEN!!

[Owen22]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 9:58pm

https://www.showbiz411.com/2019/12/09/www-showbiz411-com-west-side-story-adds-tony-winning-choreographer-sergio-trujillo

[Fetus]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:00pm

I don't see how my post or the one quoted was "churning up hatred". I'm upset with his casting, but I'm also continuing to be civil about it. I'd suggest you do the same.

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:00pm

Fetus said: "Here's her post on Instagram for anyone who wants to read it directly:https://www.instagram.com/p/B55ZumnAHG1"

Alexandra Waterbury said: "[Amar] should be on a sex offender list"

We're still doing this, I guess.

Sex offenders are rapists, child molesters, and creators/distributors of child pornography. It's a designation for deviant criminals who have high rates of recidivism.

The seriousness of the title means that these horrible people cannot hide in society. It is intended to keep communities vigilant to their actions, and to keep them away from any future potential victims.

Using "sex offender" as a description of lesser transgressions is an absolute gift to these people. They cannot escape the designation - in the worst cases it applies for the rest of their lives - so their only way out is if the term becomes so diluted as to become meaningless.

I understand why she (and many people on this board) are calling him variations on this. I appreciate it feels good to call him that, to brand him with that. But that momentary rush only helps cloud a term that has very real implications for victims and potential victims.

Amar's transgression was a violation of trust and intimacy, but it wasn't a crime*, and it obviously doesn't rise to the level of being branded a sex offender. It is such a total misnomer that I wouldn't be surprised if it gets used by NYCB's lawyers during the trial to try and characterize her lawsuit as being purely about revenge. Her lawyer should have shut this post down.

* Despite her citing the 2014 New York State law, revenge porn requires the person sharing the images to have the "intent" of harming the victim (relevant Harvard Law Review article). Since the chat was private, and not shared beyond that group, the intent was clearly for her to never find out.

[Kad]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:01pm

JSquared2 said: "Impossible2 said: "Can we start a separate 'predator' thread so we don't have to read this crudin every thread about the show?

That way you can all hang out in the one place churning up the same hatredand the rest of us can read about the previews which is what this thread is actually about?"

AMEN!!"

Oh boy, this thread is gonna be a ****ing trainwreck. A perfect storm of BWW nonsense. 

Updated On: 12/10/19 at 10:01 PM

[Luminaire2]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:02pm

Anything related to this revival deserves to have it brought up. If you are going to hire and cast someone like that, it will not be swept under the rug or hidden. We will not repeat the mistakes of the past.

[Impossible2]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:06pm

Luminaire2 said: "Anything related to this revival deserves to have it brought up. If you are going to hire and cast someone like that, it will not be swept under the rug or hidden. We will not repeat the mistakes of the past."

No it shouldn't...this isn't Twitter it is Broadway World.

I don't see what the point of bitching online is going to do. If y'all truly believe he should be fired go picket the theatre. Go do something, ANYTHING so we don't have to keep hearing about it.

[theblackumbrella]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:08pm

I thought the show jumped the shark when Maria sang “Officer Krupke” in Spanish, but when Anita died at the end instead of Tony... a new WSS indeed.

[theblackumbrella]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:08pm

Double post

Updated On: 12/10/19 at 10:08 PM

[supersam1026]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:09pm

Headed home and can post more later, show ended about 9:55.

The show will be (and seems to already be) incredibly divisive. I suspect I will be in the minority, but I thought that it shows a ton of potential and was incredibly effective. I enjoyed it.

This is a very ANGRY adaptation, incredibly intense. As is the case with every production he does, this is “Ivo Van Hove’s West Side Story”, not “West Side Story”.

Saw Rudin and Sondheim speaking in the lobby before the show, so guessing he is giving his blessing.

Happy to answer questions when I get home and settled, all I’ll say, if you’re in the first row or two, a rain jacket is a MUST.

[SouthernCakes]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:09pm

The merch looks very Forever 21/ Urban Outfitters. So I can see why you’d say “cheap,” but it’s fairly trendy.

[Globefan]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:10pm

theblackumbrella said: "I thought the show jumped the shark when Maria sang “Officer Krupke” in Spanish, but when Anita died at the end instead of Tony... a new WSS indeed."

They kill off Anita? 

[chrishuyen]

Posted: 12/10/19 at 10:11pm

theblackumbrella said: "I thought the show jumped the shark when Maria sang “Officer Krupke” in Spanish, but when Anita died at the end instead of Tony... a new WSS indeed."

I can't even tell if this is real or sarcastic, and my expectations are all over the place.  Definitely trying to snag a ticket as soon as possible.

FYI box office said rush is $40