#26
Posted: 1/3/13 at 12:55pm
Phantom - booooorrrring! Same with the upcoming The Bodyguard.
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#27
Posted: 1/3/13 at 12:59pm
At this point, I'd say Book of Mormon and Once are tied for that distinction.
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#28
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:00pm
At least from this past season the most overrated show was definitely ONCE. Yes the show is beautiful but it is also boring as f****, honestly there is more action watching paint dry. As well as I think it's outrageous that they are charging $150 a ticket.
#30
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:08pm
The Producers
Spring Awakening
Rent
Lion King
All over-hyped beyond any sense of reality.
Spring Awakening
Rent
Lion King
All over-hyped beyond any sense of reality.
#31
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:18pm
I'd say Cats, but it has the throngs of people who acknowledge it's awfulness, so I'm going with The Sound of Music.
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#32
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:26pm
Even though a lot of people have come to acknowledge just how mediocre it truly is, I still think this distinction goes to The Producers. It didn't deserve every Tony it won.
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#33
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:29pm
Cats. There's no plot. It's just Cats.
#34
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:30pm
How to choose just one? I'd go with any show that touts itself as having a "rock" score. Put a bass, guitar, synth, and drums on a stage and the musical illiterates (the ones who couldn't tell you the difference between a fermata and a suspension) start throwing words like "relevant" and "contemporary" about. As long as the marketing team says it's "rock," things like story, character, and craft seem to be unnecessary.
But up for valid discussion as well would be Cats, Phantom of the Opera, and Les Miserables, all rather mindless/artless/astonishingly successful examples of inflated children's theatre.
But up for valid discussion as well would be Cats, Phantom of the Opera, and Les Miserables, all rather mindless/artless/astonishingly successful examples of inflated children's theatre.
#35
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:49pm
Wicked easily. Listening to all the tweens horribly sing Popular and Defying Gravity makes me want to pull my hair out.
Also, I don't see what's so great about Oklahoma
Also, I don't see what's so great about Oklahoma
#36
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:52pm
Newintown, how can you classify Les Miserables as 'mindless' and 'artless'? I don't think that position can be substantiated. Children's theatre... but with more whores and suicide than a Disney show?
#37
Posted: 1/3/13 at 1:54pm
But up for valid discussion as well would be Cats, Phantom of the Opera, and Les Miserables, all rather mindless/artless/astonishingly successful examples of inflated children's theatre.
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#38
Posted: 1/3/13 at 2:24pm
First Place: Cats
Second Place: Phantom
Second Place: Phantom
#39
Posted: 1/3/13 at 2:30pm
Cats, Wicked, The Producers.
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#40
Posted: 1/3/13 at 2:33pm
" Newintown, how can you classify Les Miserables as 'mindless' and 'artless'? I don't think that position can be substantiated. Children's theatre... but with more whores and suicide than a Disney show?"
Anything can be "substantiated." Les Miserables is an exceptionally simple-minded show - utterly devoid of humor (I'm aware that the Threnardier scens are meant to be "comic," but no one is laughing much at them), with a score that borders on Composition 101 level simplicity (much of the score can be sung to the same accompaniment). As far as narrative is concerned, the show is told in a string of sentimental clichés; when a potentially political moment does happen, the audience (unless they've studied it prior) has no idea what the students are "rebelling" against at all (nor do they seem to care much).
"Children's theatre," as I used it above, isn't about specific content, but about artlessness, lack of sophistication or deep thought, and superficiality (even when it pretends to be profound, generally by eschewing any semblance of humor).
Anything can be "substantiated." Les Miserables is an exceptionally simple-minded show - utterly devoid of humor (I'm aware that the Threnardier scens are meant to be "comic," but no one is laughing much at them), with a score that borders on Composition 101 level simplicity (much of the score can be sung to the same accompaniment). As far as narrative is concerned, the show is told in a string of sentimental clichés; when a potentially political moment does happen, the audience (unless they've studied it prior) has no idea what the students are "rebelling" against at all (nor do they seem to care much).
"Children's theatre," as I used it above, isn't about specific content, but about artlessness, lack of sophistication or deep thought, and superficiality (even when it pretends to be profound, generally by eschewing any semblance of humor).
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#41
Posted: 1/3/13 at 3:06pm
Newintown, you're just flat out wrong. They may well be your opinions, but your opinions are wrong.
The story of Les Mis is intricate, complex, and deeply layered, steeped in the complexity of the most difficult questions life has to offer. The music is soaring and intricate and serves the story perfectly. The original staging was beyond artful -- it was complex in a way that seemed simplistic because of it's inventiveness and flawless execution.
The story of Les Mis is intricate, complex, and deeply layered, steeped in the complexity of the most difficult questions life has to offer. The music is soaring and intricate and serves the story perfectly. The original staging was beyond artful -- it was complex in a way that seemed simplistic because of it's inventiveness and flawless execution.
#42
Posted: 1/3/13 at 3:24pm
Also, I don't see what's so great about Oklahoma
Probably the fact that it's one of the most influential pieces of musical theatre ever written. It's not so much how the show comes across now (which I still adore), but how it came across when it premiered. And how it changed musical theatre forever.
Les Miserables is an exceptionally simple-minded show
Or...it's the opposite of that.
Cats. There's no plot. It's just Cats.
I don't know...lack of plot doesn't really bother me when it is intentional. Like a revue or when the source material itself has no plot (i.e. Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats). It's what you do with the material that I find interesting, and Cats was extraordinarily creative and innovative when it opened. I found its instant global appeal very apparent when I saw it.
Probably the fact that it's one of the most influential pieces of musical theatre ever written. It's not so much how the show comes across now (which I still adore), but how it came across when it premiered. And how it changed musical theatre forever.
Les Miserables is an exceptionally simple-minded show
Or...it's the opposite of that.
Cats. There's no plot. It's just Cats.
I don't know...lack of plot doesn't really bother me when it is intentional. Like a revue or when the source material itself has no plot (i.e. Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats). It's what you do with the material that I find interesting, and Cats was extraordinarily creative and innovative when it opened. I found its instant global appeal very apparent when I saw it.
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#43
Posted: 1/3/13 at 3:32pm
The Book Of Mormon
Mamma Mia
The Phanton of the Opera
Newsies
Wicked
All shows I saw that I don't understand the hype. I enjoyed Wicked more than I thought I would, but I wouldn't say it's the most amazing show ever. The rest I was highly disappointed and underwhelmed when I left the theatre.
Mamma Mia
The Phanton of the Opera
Newsies
Wicked
All shows I saw that I don't understand the hype. I enjoyed Wicked more than I thought I would, but I wouldn't say it's the most amazing show ever. The rest I was highly disappointed and underwhelmed when I left the theatre.
#44
Posted: 1/3/13 at 3:32pm
MY FAIR LADY --overlong and BORING!!!
#45
Posted: 1/3/13 at 4:25pm
Mais non, non, non, Idiot; you're just flat out wrong. They may well be your opinions, but your opinions are wrong.
See how effective that sort of discourse is? Delightful, oui?
See how effective that sort of discourse is? Delightful, oui?
#47
Posted: 1/3/13 at 4:43pm
At the end of WICKED I said--Is that all there is?
#48
Posted: 1/3/13 at 4:57pm
Is that all there is, my friend? Then let's keep dancing.
#49
Posted: 1/3/13 at 5:16pm
Couldn't agree more with your assessment of Les Mis, newintown.
My vote as of late would go to "Book of Mormon". I laughed out loud maybe three times. By the middle of the second act I found myself checking my watch quite frequently.
My vote as of late would go to "Book of Mormon". I laughed out loud maybe three times. By the middle of the second act I found myself checking my watch quite frequently.
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#50
Posted: 1/3/13 at 5:23pm
Wicked, Cats, Rent, Mamma Mia
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