^Accept Bring it On for what it was- the Golden Boy of Broadway was involved- Lin, of course, and they got a Tony nod for best musical and extended- grosses aside, it was a success and much of that cast still works. I'm not saying it was a great show, but it was a success. The sad thing about this is, it had a decent run the first time around, but will probably go down as a flop and be overshadowed by this run. It seemed like it was done to prove a point, i.e., we'll be back, we are no we're closing, but we came back! Rant over, sad to see those kids lose their jobs- side note, is The Nederlander becoming the latest flop house?
They really didn't do much advertising and their pricing was way too high. A ton of seats were Premium even though the rest of them were barely selling. I think word of mouth is now starting to catch on, but it's definitely too little too late.
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
So...what are everyone's predictions? Does the Nederlander stay empty until spring, get a limited holiday tenant, or does War Paint transfer sooner than spring?
I hope that War Paint doesn't transfer before the spring, mainly because I'm not confident that this is the best time of year to open a show. They will miss the summer rush and could open in a slower period (e.g. September/October), then will have make it past the winter till when I can see it haha (in the Spring). That said, with this particular cast and opening at a time where there isn't much competition, maybe it will be fine.
Grief has Dear Evan Hansen though - so I wonder if it would even be possible for it to open before the spring?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
qolbinau said: "I hope that War Paint doesn't transfer before the spring, mainly because I'm not confident that this is the best time of year to open a show. They will miss the summer rush and could open in a slower period (e.g. September/October), then will have make it past the winter till when I can see it haha (in the Spring). That said, with this particular cast and opening at a time where there isn't much competition, maybe it will be fine.
Grief has Dear Evan Hansen though - so I wonder if it would even be possible for it to open before the spring?
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You say not much competition in the fall, I think DEH and maybe Natasha... will be popular at least in the fall, therefore War Paint should transfer in the spring if they plan to come to broadway IMO. I agree with you though with Grief already with DEH opening WP in the fall may be too much
I don't know anything about Bring It On, but the poster wasn't referring to a "financial success", but said it was in other ways (Tony nom, extended run ect.).
I'll predict another show will snatch up the Nederlander, maybe a play for a limited run. I think there are still a number of plays wanting to transfer without theaters and timelines. Perhaps something with a star like Photograph 51 with Nicole Kidman. That should do fine even over the fall, esp. if it's only a 12 week engagement or something.
qolbinau said: "I hope that War Paint doesn't transfer before the spring, mainly because I'm not confident that this is the best time of year to open a show. They will miss the summer rush and could open in a slower period (e.g. September/October), then will have make it past the winter till when I can see it haha (in the Spring). That said, with this particular cast and opening at a time where there isn't much competition, maybe it will be fine.
Grief has Dear Evan Hansen though - so I wonder if it would even be possible for it to open before the spring?
There are more shows still open that opened in the last fall (Hamilton, School of Rock, The Color Purple, Fiddle on the Roof) still open, thgan ones that opened in the Summer (Waitress).
WOW!! These tours really need to stop during limited return engagements on Broadway. This, HAIR, FELA all bombed in their returns.
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
"Accept Bring it On for what it was- the Golden Boy of Broadway was involved- Lin, of course, and they got a Tony nod for best musical and extended- grosses aside, it was a success and much of that cast still works. I'm not saying it was a great show, but it was a success."
Bring It On was a commercial run, so it didn't "extend" at all. In fact, it closed after only 6 months, at a total loss of its investment. So calling it a "success" is just... weird. It didn't even get very good reviews - the Times called it "alternately snarky and sentimental ," a "featherweight concoction," adding that it "relies so blithely on the familiar formulas (and clichés) of fictional depictions of adolescence." They did like the cheerleading gymnastics, however.
Calling it a"success" is Trump-speak, where any kind of lie works if it's said with sufficient volume and vulgarity. Bring It On was, in truth, a major flop.
newintown said: "Bring It On was a commercial run, so it didn't "extend" at all. In fact, it closed after only 6 months, at a total loss of its investment."
This is incorrect; the production was a limited run from August to October, and later extended until December.
"This is incorrect; the production was a limited run from August to October, and later extended until December."
Ah - my mistake, you're mostly right. The extension, however, was through January 20, but the producers cut their losses early, and closed on December 20.