"No, but good job completely missing the point. I suppose that's par for the course.
I said the following "If Clinton wins, she will be the most disliked/most untrusted person ever elected POTUS". You replied back "Lincoln. While Lincoln was not liked or trusted, it was totally different reason. The main part of it was he was elected during the brink of a Civil War which is a big difference than somebody the majority of the country believes is a habitual liar and a decent percentage believe she is corrupt. Are you trying to say that Hillary and Lincoln were both disliked but both could become great Presidents? If so, sorry I don't think Hillary would be great.
One thing that still completely mystifies me are idiots who insist they want someone with zero political experience to be president. You would really trust and demand a brain surgeon to fix the economy? A car mechanic to fix your house's plumbing? A farmer to have authority over the military? Most policy-makers start in the House of Representatives for a reason; I certainly wouldn't want anyone with zero inkling of how the modern world's governments and economies work to be at the helm of the entire country. To want otherwise is naivete of the highest order.
These "idiots" probably want someone with zero political experience because they are so angry and disgusted with so many people with political experience. Just curious if you considered being a General political experience which is what Eisenhower had before becoming President. Personally, I think Governors have the best experience to be President because they bring to the table executive experience but they can be short of foreign policy experience.
The polls have definitely ticked back in Clinton's favor, and 538 now shows her with a 70% chance. The positive trend bodes well.
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yankeefan7, you can't go back on your original statement "If Clinton wins, she will be the most disliked/most untrusted person ever elected POTUS" and try to move the goalposts in arguing that you were somehow right because of "different reasons" when you were, hands down, factually INCORRECT. That's all.
You were wrong. Don't be a Trump.
Madonna is performing for Hillary in Washington Square park tonight.
Hillary is going to get 60 million votes (+) tomorrow, which is twice the number of the entire population at the time of Lincoln.
Guys! I can't wait until tomorrow night. I'm seeing Fun Home and then after I'll get to witness Hillary winning the election. It will be the day to beat this week. Today in my AP Gov class we were talking about how it's Hillary's election to lose and I just started blushing. To have two extraordinary and vibrant presidents one after the other would be the epitome of our democracy and nation. Let's hope we only have a white male president every 4 presidents.
Jorge, I understand your ardor but blushing, really? This is not a candidate who would've beaten anyone else. We have work to do, and your prejudice against white males is misguided. How bout Bernie?
When Trump is defeated tomorrow the GOP will rally and become more cohesive. The Dems will be waiting to see if Clinton governs the way us leftists want her to. It will be interesting, imagining her with two terms is impossible.
The GOP is more divided than it's ever been. There's no way they suddenly rally after this election and come together. They didn't do it after 2012, they're not gonna suddenly start now. If anything, the party splits.
No, I don't think the Trump presidency buries them. The takeaway from these primaries is that the GOP will get there act together after this disaster, and us Dems we're divided.
South Florida--your utter lack of political comprehension has astounded me throughout this long election season, made even longer by your cuckoo prattle. As adamgreer just said, the GOP will be unable to unite after this election because it has been rent asunder. Everyone in the country knows this, because everyone in the country has watched it happen. Yet you utter inanities that haven't been accurate since the Reagan administration.
The GOP hasn't been this split apart since Teddy Roosevelt split from the Republicans and formed the Progressive Party.
What will happen to it is anyone's guess. But a miraculous mending is NOT in the cards.
Happy Election Day, everyone. MAY THE BEST WOMAN WIN!
Viewed from afar, neither deserve to win, but one of them has to. At least the world will only have to endure one of them for 4 years and hopefully the damage that person creates can be undone by the next [sensible] person in charge.
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Does it say something about those of you who consistently refer to the female candidate by her first name and the male candidate by his last name? Does that insinuate that the lady is less than or that the man is more formidable?
"yankeefan7, you can't go back on your original statement "If Clinton wins, she will be the most disliked/most untrusted person ever elected POTUS" and try to move the goalposts in arguing that you were somehow right because of "different reasons" when you were, hands down, factually INCORRECT. That's all.
You were wrong. Don't be a Trump."
I am not going back on my original statement, I was just adding context. How are you factually proving that Lincoln was more disliked than Clinton? If you are going by vote total, Lincoln only got 39% of the vote but there was three other candidates that were viable in that election. I also jokingly said to you if you have to go back to Lincoln to say that I was wrong that is still pretty bad. Just for the fun of it, see vote totals below.
Candidate Party Electoral Votes Popular Votes
Abraham Lincoln Republican 180 1,866,452
John C. Breckinridge Democratic 72 847,953
John Bell Constitutional Union 39 592,906
Stephen A. Douglas Democratic 12 1,382,713
"Let's hope we only have a white male president every 4 presidents."
That is a bigoted statement and if you don't think so just change it to another ethnicity.
"Does it say something about those of you who consistently refer to the female candidate by her first name and the male candidate by his last name? "
In case you have not noticed, the bumper stickers for her and many signs say "Hillary". If her campaign does this why is it a big deal for people on this board to refer to her as Hillary.
"Viewed from afar, neither deserve to win, but one of them has to. At least the world will only have to endure one of them for 4 years and hopefully the damage that person creates can be undone by the next [sensible] person in charge."
Very true, either one will never serve 8 years IMO.
"South Florida--your utter lack of political comprehension has astounded me throughout this long election season, made even longer by your cuckoo prattle."
You've been the biggest blithering idiot ever from the left I've ever witnessed.
I agree with PJ that the GOP will be terribly split following this election. But a thousand things can happen over the next several years which could make that split meaningless. In any case, the split is not so much over policy, but rather, who is best suited to carry out the policy.
My sense is that the Democrats are also quite divided and mostly over policy. HRC is the best thing that can happen for the GOP. Instead of electing the worst President of all time, who becomes a complete disaster, they continue to be energized by their dislike of Clinton. Plus if things don't go well with the ACA, foreign policy, or the economy, she and Obama get the blame.
South Florida said: ""South Florida--your utter lack of political comprehension has astounded me throughout this long election season, made even longer by your cuckoo prattle."
You've been the biggest blithering idiot ever from the left I've ever witnessed.
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Sorry South, but half of your posts make no sense, I always have to read them twice to decipher them, and often fail.
The Repubs got nothing, the Dems got CORY BOOKER! waiting in the wings.
"Does it say something about those of you who consistently refer to the female candidate by her first name and the male candidate by his last name?"
Perhaps it's because there was a President-elect Clinton before her. Similar thing happened to tennis great Venus Williams whose younger sister was the first to win a major championship. As they often played doubles together earlier in their careers, Williams and Williams was awkward for on-air commentators and viewers alike..ergo, Venus & Serena countervailing Kerber, Sharapova, and Azarenka. Finally, returning to politics, there's the Bush clan.
Rise and shine everybody!!! Go out and vote!!! Happy Election Day!!!
Good Luck America!
I'm gonna pray for y'all.
"My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over."
--Gerald R. Ford, August 9, 1974
I voted this morning and already I feel optimistic and enthused. I was full of pride the two times I voted for Obama and I felt the same way after voting for Hillary.
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