ALL Broadway Theatres To Require Proof of Vaccination AND Masks inside- Page 3

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 1:48pm

Ok i figured it out. I got vaxxed when the passes were only valid for 6 months but Cuomo extended it to a year, so I had to get a “new” pass, which took all of 5 seconds. And that one is good for a year.

[kade.ivy]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 1:51pm

I wonder if it would but worth it for The Broadway League to develop an app that everyone can use to upload their various documentation that we can then show at the door of every show?

Obviously not everyone would use it, but many would, so it might save time and confusion. It would probably require lots of funding and man hours, so it might not be worth it…

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 1:53pm

Yeah, I doubt they would develop anything like that. Especially since this is all temporary. 

[Capeguy]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 2:01pm

Great News!

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 2:07pm

"leefowler said: "Maybe I’m the only one here who feels this way, but I’m not interested in seeing a show if I have to wear a mask for 2 1/2 hours."

Then stay home and stay miserable. If a doctor can perform a life saving surgery on your for twice that length while wearing a mask, you can sit through a show in one."

Lee, expect to get more of those responses for a comment that has an easy solution. 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 2:23pm

re passes...

my 1st one was for 1 month, then 6 months and the next one is, as noted above a year. Aftyer that, we shall see where we are obviously.

the problem with a national pass in the US is that the records are only maintained by the health dept of each state and the idiot states, naturally, are not sharing. The Clear Health Pass is (and presumably will be increasingly) a multi-state pass and it is free but of course subject to the same limitation regarding the idiot states. New Jersey, for some reason that must have a back story, decided to use a system developed by a company for Utah instead of the one developed by IBM for New York. In addition to other issues, it does not have a QR code (or didn't a week ago) so it is far less useful. [The Excelsior Pass app works in two directions, to show your vax status, and also to allow anyone with it to scan the QR code of anyone else so that, for instance, a bar that wants to use it does not have to do anything other than download the app and scan patrons' QR code.]

No set of rules would make everyone happy. Some will of course stay home. Some will protest the intrusion of their "liberty." For the rest of us, I think we can finally say  (as I say to my dog several times a day) "let's go!" 

[whatever2]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 2:53pm

> The Clear Health Pass is (and presumably will be increasingly) a multi-state pass and it is free but of course subject to the same limitation regarding the idiot states.

wait -- does this mean that anyone vaccinated in an idiot state (looking at you, Floriduh) can't use CLEAR?

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 3:14pm

I know some folks are disappointed about the mask requirement. But here's how I see it.

Think of living with Covid as akin to driving your car. When you're driving on the road, or on the highway, your seatbelt is sufficient. But in a NASCAR race, or a drag race, they also put on a helmet, to supplement their seatbelts. Think of a vaccination as a seatbelt, a mask as a helmet, and a big surge (e.g. Delta) as a NASCAR race. When there isn't a big wave going on, the vaccine (seatbelt) is probably sufficient. But during a big Covid surge (again, Delta), it's a good idea to add a mask (helmet) as an extra layer of protection.

That's why this is in place through the end of October.

Let's all enjoy the show, folks. I expect to see some stylish masks in September; don't disappoint me!

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 3:21pm

whatever2 said: "> The Clear Health Pass is (and presumably will be increasingly) a multi-state pass and it is free but of course subject to the same limitation regarding the idiot states.

wait -- does this mean that anyone vaccinated in an idiot state (looking at you, Floriduh) can't use CLEAR?"

Expect literally nothing from garbage states like Florida, Alabama, etc. 

[Dolly80]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 3:52pm

leefowler said: "Maybe I’m the only one here who feels this way, but I’m not interested in seeing a show if I have to wear a mask for 2 1/2 hours."

Oh it’s SO hard isn’t it. Nurses have to do it for 14+ hours a day, but you cannot cope for 2 1/2 watching a show. What an idiot.
 

 

[Playbill_Trash]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:05pm

This is great news and a great policy. It’s just a shame that before it can be put in effect, Broadway will be shut down again. Not trying to be negative, but this delta variant is worse than a lot of people think - whether or not you’re vaccinated. And I won’t be surprised if the entire “broadway re-opening” is cancelled. Just adjusting expectations.

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:10pm

Playbill_Trash said: "This is great news and a great policy. It’s just a shame that before it can be put in effect, Broadway will be shut down again. Not trying to be negative, but this delta variant is worse than a lot of people think - whether or not you’re vaccinated. And I won’t be surprised if the entire “broadway re-opening” is cancelled. Just adjusting expectations."

Except you are trying to be negative. And this is not the place for it.

And the Delta variant is A LOT worse for unvaccinated people, than vaccinated.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:10pm

*eyeroll*

[whatever2]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:15pm

Playbill_Trash said: "This is great news and a great policy. It’s just a shame that before it can be put in effect, Broadway will be shut down again. Not trying to be negative, but this delta variant is worse than a lot of people think - whether or not you’re vaccinated. And I won’t be surprised if the entire “broadway re-opening” is cancelled. Just adjusting expectations."

I missed the announcement -- when were you promoted to BWW Message Board Official Expectations Adjuster??

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:15pm

Playbill_Trash said: "This is great news and a great policy. It’s just a shame that before it can be put in effect, Broadway will be shut down again. Not trying to be negative, but this delta variant is worse than a lot of people think - whether or not you’re vaccinated. And I won’t be surprised if the entire “broadway re-opening” is cancelled. Just adjusting expectations."

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:21pm

Just so we're all clear, because one thing Playbill_Trash said was essentially blatant disinformation, the rough estimate for vaccine efficacy against symptomatic disease in the US right now is 88%. Even higher against severe disease, hospitalization, and death. The risk in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated isn't even comparable.

Updated On: 7/30/21 at 04:21 PM

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:24pm

I am assuming this goes for all staff, crew and talent.

Seems like it will take forever to get everyone through the door with long lines and long wait times. 

 

 

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:26pm

SmoothLover said: "I am assuming this goes for all staff, crew and talent.

Seems like it will take forever to get everyone through the door with long lines and long wait times."

To the first thing, yes.

To the second thing, perhaps at first. But like everything else, they'll adjust, and I expect the process will move much more efficiently, with time.

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:35pm

If they do it here like they checked the NHS app in the UK, they’ll have people working up and down the lines, checking vaccine status so they can then just move on to have their tickets scanned normally. Also, staggered entry times and multiple entrances (sometimes through side doors) for some theatres seemed to really help move things along and that’s something that maybe could be looked into for Broadway.

[TheatreFan4]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:42pm

When it comes to International theatre goers, doesn't the US require vaccinations before entry? Wouldn't that cover the need to check vaccination for them on the theatre level?

[ClumsyDude15]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:43pm

uncageg said: "They will just have to announce that they can be used. I am in Jersey and we have an app now. I still had to show my card, a picture of it, at two venues in NYC. At this point it should be looked at like a personal ID. I have only glanced at the NYC app. Ours has 2 squares with the info for each shot. Only thing is on our app your name is on the first screen and you have to tap a box to open up the 2 boxes with shot info. It only takes a second though."

Thank you for mentioning this as I had no idea it was a thing and looked it up and downloaded it as I'm also in Jersey. 
 

I am so glad this is being done and it makes me feel much more at ease. I figure most touring venues in the country will follow similar requirements for the national tours coming to their cities (The Pantages in LA already has). 

Updated On: 7/30/21 at 04:43 PM

[JSquared2]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:47pm

TheatreFan4 said: "When it comes to International theatre goers, doesn't the US require vaccinations before entry? Wouldn't that cover the need to check vaccination for them on the theatre level?"

How on earth would the Covid Compliance Term at the theatre know whether or not someone is an international visitor who has already been "vetted"?   

[leefowler]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:52pm

iluvtheatertrash said: "leefowler said: "Maybe I’m the only one here who feels this way, but I’m not interested in seeing a show if I have to wear a mask for 2 1/2 hours."

Then stay home and stay miserable. If a doctor can perform a life saving surgery on your for twice that length while wearing a mask, you can sit through a show in one."

I'll stay home, but I won't be miserable. I'll listen to opera, or watch Rick And Morty, or read the new James Lapine book. There's many entertainment options that don't require wearing a mask. People need to realize that different people have different feelings about wearing masks. I went to Ireland to work on a movie, and I found wearing the mask during the flight quite unpleasant. And during rehearsals there, everyone had to wear masks, which was unpleasant for everyone (especially the dancers, as you can imagine.). Some people find wearing a mask a non-issue, but it really makes me uncomfortable. Why this offends people is confusing to me.

My main concern is that Broadway has to be profitable to survive, and enforced mask wearing won't help. My entire income is from Broadway royalties, so this is very close to home for me. Already, foreign tourists won't be coming to Broadway shows for a while, and foreign tourists made a big portion of of show grosses.

Also, though it's true that doctors have to wear masks during a long operation, I'm not sure they want to do so when they're relaxing watching a show.

 

 

 

[stoptheworld38]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:54pm

I'm 100% glad that Broadway is working hard to keep people safe, but I have been getting very fed up with all the people saying things like "Masks aren't uncomfortable" or "I don't mind wearing one" or "If I can wear one for 8 hours at work, you can wear one to watch a show" or "I'm gonna keep wearing mine even after Covid is over" or "You're selfish if you don't wear one", or any number of similar things. (And not just in relation to theatre). Those comments may be true for you but that doesn't mean they are for other people. While a mask is not a medical risk/issue for me, I do have autism and sensory issues, and it is confining and exhausting (both physically and mentally) for me to wear one for an extended period. Yes, I've worn them for well over a year to go into stores and commercial establishments that required them, but that's about it. I've been unemployed for almost a year and a half (and likely will still be this fall) because I want to work with kids who aren't yet eligible to be vaccinated, and masks will probably still be required in schools in the fall, and it isn't feasible for me to wear one for the length of a shift. Wearing a mask may not be uncomfortable for the average neurotypical person but for me, (and undoubtedly others), it is. I'm seeing Hadestown in late September (rescheduled from end of March 2020) and while I will of course have a mask with me, I will almost certainly take it off for a good part of the time once the lights are down and the show is going on - not because I disagree with the policies, but because I have a legitimately diagnosed disability, and wearing one for a significant time period simply isn't realistic for me. Just please realize your experience isn't the only one, and the only person you can speak for is yourself. Telling someone that something is or isn't uncomfortable when they may have a disability or medical issue that you don't know about is, to put it simply, ableist. I'm not saying people shouldn't have to do things simply because they're uncomfortable or inconvenient, just don't tell people what is or isn't an issue for them cause their experience and challenges may be different from your own.

Also, to clarify, I have been fully vaccinated since April, and I live in Vermont which has the lowest number of cases and the highest vaccination rate of anywhere in the country.

[BroadwayRox3588]

Posted: 7/30/21 at 4:56pm

leefowler said: "iluvtheatertrash said: "leefowler said: "Maybe I’m the only one here who feels this way, but I’m not interested in seeing a show if I have to wear a mask for 2 1/2 hours."

Then stay home and stay miserable. If a doctor can perform a life saving surgery on your for twice that length while wearing a mask, you can sit through a show in one."

I'll stay home, but I won't be miserable. I'll listen to opera, or watch Rick And Morty, or read the new JamesLapine book. There's many entertainment options that don't require wearing a mask.People need to realize that different people have different feelings about wearing masks. I went to Ireland to work on a movie, and I found wearing the mask during the flight quite unpleasant. And during rehearsals there, everyone had to wear masks, which was unpleasant for everyone (especially the dancers, as you can imagine.). Some people find wearing a mask a non-issue, but it really makes me uncomfortable. Why this offends people is confusing to me.

My main concern is that Broadway has to be profitable to survive, and enforced mask wearing won't help. My entire income is from Broadway royalties, so this is very close to home for me. Already, foreign tourists won't be coming to Broadway shows for a while, and foreign tourists made a big portion of of show grosses.

Also, though it's true that doctors have to wear masks during a long operation, I'm not sure they want to do so when they're relaxing watching a show."

While it may be true that some people won't go see shows because masks are required, I think you'll also see just as many (if not more) that WILL go see shows because masks are required. Particularly during this surge of the Delta variant.