AUDRA GYPSY Reviews- Page 5

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 10:52am

DP

Updated On: 12/20/24 at 10:52 AM

[OharaFosseWolfe888]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 10:54am

RememberTheDay said: "The microagressions in these comments from, no doubt, white folks claiming that the concept doesn't work is truly hysterical. And instead of reading the raves and saying, "Well, maybe I missed something," they ignore their own small mindedness andcontinue to dig their own graves. Well, guess what. Audra is a hit. The show is a hit. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

this. This. THIS. A Million times this. It is truly astounding to me, that some yt folks can see this production and say speak on what it is and isn't doing in regards to race. I have said this before, if you are not Black you might have a different experience at this show but to discount Black folks opinions and now say the reviews don't match the production is utter BS. It seems impossible (especially on this board) for some folks to just say they didn't see what POC saw in the show. It's maddening. The show is a HIT! Let's celebrate!

Updated On: 12/20/24 at 10:54 AM

[OhHiii]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 10:55am

Also noting that the glaring lack of much mention at all of Joy says a lot about her performance and the trepidation many critics had in critiquing her. You mean to tell me Louise (the actual title character of the show) is such a throwaway character as to not mention her performance really at all in any meaningful way? 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 10:55am

RememberTheDay said: "Let's start with you, then - are you white?"

No. Not that I owe you that.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 10:58am

You should see a chiropractor for all the twisting you're doing trying to make this board believe these reviews are anything but raves and that Audra hasn't received life-time best accolades. 

Pilates might help. 

[OhHiii]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:01am

SonofRobbieJ said: "You should see a chiropractor for all the twisting you're doing trying to make this board believe these reviews are anything but raves and that Audra hasn't received life-time best accolades.

Pilates might help."

You mean the people that are accurately pointing out the reservations about the production that are in black and white in the raves you mention? Yes, they're raves, but many are also qualified raves with issues with the production. I don't think anyone is saying Audra didn't get rave reviews here. Including myself. So...great use of snark I guess?

[RememberTheDay]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:17am

OharaFosseWolfe888 said: "this. This. THIS. A Million times this. It is truly astounding to me, that some yt folks can see this production and say speak on what it is and isn't doing in regards to race. I have said this before, if you are not Black you might have a different experience at this show but to discount Black folks opinions and now say the reviews don't match the production is utter BS. It seems impossible (especially on this board) for some folks to just say they didn't see what POC saw in the show. It's maddening. The show is a HIT! Let's celebrate!"

Yep. Something isn't for them 100% and so in their small brains they figure the whole thing doesn't work. 

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:17am

"And instead of reading the raves and saying, "Well, maybe I missed something," they ignore their own small mindedness andcontinue to dig their own graves. "

It's always fascinating to me that people here, and really I guess it's people on the internet in general, are seemingly unwilling to self-interrogate their responses to things. Like. Even if you eventually end up dismissing review you don't agree with, it's a great opportunity to say to yourself "What did I miss" or "I wonder why that played so differently to all these other folks" I love disagreeing with reviews for that reason. You get to have a fun little conversation with yourself.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:22am

I'm not 100% sure why you are so invested in convincing us that the 'reservations' you're going on about alter the actual tone of what the critics are saying. You have serious misgivings about the production. Cool...stand with that. Hell...I even understand why this doesn't work for some people. But why do you need to turn the reviews into something that backs up your opinion when they clearly don't? Sometimes you just have to be ok with being the cheese that stands alone. And hell...you're not alone. A bunch of people on this board feel the same way you do. .I HATED the Fiona Shaw Medea from 20 years ago and I was really the single piece of cheddar standing all by myself in that opinion. I don't care. I hated it and I didn't need the critics to agree with me.

And my snark is expert-level. I got a 5 on the AP test. 

Updated On: 12/20/24 at 11:22 AM

[JasonC3]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:34am

The Cheese That Stood Alone sounds like a great memoir title.

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:37am

RememberTheDay said: "Yep. Something isn't for them 100% and so in their small brains they figure the whole thing doesn't work."

Yawn. Anyone who feels the need to insult those who have (gasp) a different opinion of about a piece of art really has no claim at the high road.

[RememberTheDay]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:43am

MemorableUserName said: "RememberTheDay said: "Yep. Something isn't for them 100% and so in their small brains they figure the whole thing doesn't work."

Yawn. Anyone who feels the need to insult those who have (gasp) a different opinion of about a piece of art really has no claim at the high road."

A perfect example of being part of the problem. If ever there were a Merriam-Webster definition...

Updated On: 12/20/24 at 11:43 AM

[MemorableUserName]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:46am

If you have a Merriam-Webster, you may want to check the spelling of "microaggression" if you're going to throw it around so freely...

[RememberTheDay]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 11:58am

MemorableUserName said: "If you have a Merriam-Webster, you may want to check the spelling of "microaggression" if you're going to throw it around so freely..."

Thanks for pointing that out! I fixed it :-)

[Menken Fan]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:00pm

The arguing and anger over whether a piece of art is good or “works” is tiring, futile and pointless. I did not enjoy Sunset. Most others did. I did share my thoughts, but wouldn’t ever think others’ views are wrong or make any effort to try to convince anyone to feel the same as me. I’m really happy so many people enjoy it. 
 

i very much enjoyed this Gypsy also. And again, I’m really glad so many people enjoy it. No effort to convince me I’m wrong or just don’t understand how awful it really is will take that away. Sorry. 

[BJR]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:10pm

It's also true WOM has been far more mixed. All I've heard are mixed thoughts - on the production, on her performance.

It's too early to know, but I bet Nicole still takes it. Here's where it's relevant Audra has 6 already... And when the award season kicks off, suddenly the elbows get sharper.

[PriscillaN2N]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:21pm

RememberTheDay said: "The microaggressions in these comments from, no doubt, white folks claiming that the concept doesn't work is truly hysterical. And instead of reading the raves and saying, "Well, maybe I missed something," they ignore their own small mindedness andcontinue to dig their own graves. Well, guess what. Audra is a hit. The show is a hit. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

Exactly this. This board is full of senile white gays so I'm not surprised. 

[binau]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:34pm

It’s annoying that people are trying to rain on Audra’s parade but it’s equally annoying that as usual people have to pull the cards they are pulling and now we’re not just racist and sexist we’re ageist too in the cloak of the opposite which is just madness. Thankfully this ideology is on the way out…

[DanS3]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:44pm

WOW to the reviews for this.   As a person who has never seen Gypsy I was a bit worried about this show since I have tickets for later in January.  The reviews on here have not been kind.  So, I'm a bit more optimistic about liking it now.  I mean the only negative review press came from a Trump-supporting rag that probably doesn't hold much weight among people going to Broadway shows (/end of snark).  It always makes me happy when a show gets universal praise.  

[Bwaygurl2]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:52pm

PriscillaN2N said: "RememberTheDay said: "The microaggressions in these comments from, no doubt, white folks claiming that the concept doesn't work is truly hysterical. And instead of reading the raves and saying, "Well, maybe I missed something," they ignore their own small mindedness andcontinue to dig their own graves. Well, guess what. Audra is a hit. The show is a hit. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

Exactly this. This board is full of senile white gays so I'm not surprised."

You are mad about fake "microagressions "but think it is okay to use a phrase like this? This is why so many hate the Left. 

[Kad]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 1:54pm

There was no world in which this production would not have been divisive on this board. It was divisive from the initial announcement back in the spring. It was divisive when they announced additional casting. It was divisive when they revealed their key art. 
 

Although consensus on this board often aligns with critics, Gypsy makes some people here set expectations that cannot be met. 

Updated On: 12/20/24 at 01:54 PM

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 2:03pm

This reminds me of what happened with the most recent Sweeney Todd revival... VERY divisive on board, but pretty loved by critics (Although, I, admittedly, enjoyed this production of Gypsy way more than the Sweeney Todd revival).

I think Kad is right about some of us having expectations that can't be met.

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 2:03pm

There were at least two posters in this thread that implied that no one would review this show poorly because many of the artists involved are black. Those aren't fake microaggressions. I don't think that's the majority of folks who didn't like it... but to deny that that sort of thing still rears its head is. Like. Not the move. Also, it's not an insult if someone suggests a black audience member but notice something different or feel a different way than a white audience member. If aren't one of these posters that posted a micro-aggression or took issue with that suggestion, than don't worry about it. But. To act like that's not still a thing makes you look like you should be lumped in with those posters.

[A0326T]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 2:22pm

Can't wait to see Audra next month. I've seen Nicole in Sunset and now with this Gypsy glorious reviews, I have a feeling Audra will get her seventh Tony 

[MVintheheartland]

Posted: 12/20/24 at 2:29pm

I’m a Midwestern suburban white woman, and have tickets in a few weeks. I absolutely can’t wait to see this show. The fact that there are black AND white actors in it doesn’t even concern me, and I’m surprised some of the posters are making it an issue. The criticisms of Audra’s voice are ridiculous. I don’t plan to sit there and wonder when her chest voice vs head voice makes a difference. I was lucky to see her in “Shuffle Along”, and looking forward to seeing her again.

Is it at all possible that a show like “Gypsy” can be enjoyed without the slicing and dicing of performances? Thankful for Jesse Greene and his review. I plan on having a great time.