Yall can say I’m lying. Yall can say these people are jealous. Say whatever you want to make yourself feel better. But I’m just passing on what I’ve witnessed. I’ve consistently met people who were very excited about the show and left very disappointed. These have almost always been theatre workers of all kinds and some tourists.
Therefore I stand by my statement. Word of mouth has not been great.
Exactly this. This board is full of senile white gays so I'm not surprised."
There's microaggressions, and then there's straight-up racism, I guess..."
Please go read a book on what racism is, so that we're not forced to have these conversations AGAIN in 2025 😭"
Racism is juding a person's character on the content of their skin, which at least one comment has done. Do your own reading, if you don't know the defintion.
Everyone enough already! What's happening now lately...everyone seems to be pissed off, filled with indifference or just in a bad mood all the time on this board! What's going on?Let's CHILL n Merry Christmas-Happy Holidays!
"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new."
Sunday in the Park with George
SonofRobbieJ said: "You should see a chiropractor for all the twisting you're doing trying to make this board believe these reviews are anything but raves and that Audra hasn't received life-time best accolades.
KitKatBoy24 said: " I’ve consistently met people who were very excited about the show and left very disappointed. These have almost always been theatre workers of all kindsand some tourists.
Therefore I stand by my statement. Word of mouth has not been great."
I’m not really sure I understand this reaction. Is the narrative now that we have to believe the show is an unqualified critical and audience word of mouth success or something else? Based on show-score.com, this board and my own reaction to this show plus the anecdotes of others in this thread I believe that the noise around this production reflects something.
I don’t mind that the show got raves as I said before this I kind of low key hoped they’d be kind because it’s not good for Audra or the Gypsy brand. But you can hold a gun to my head and I’m still not going to pretend that outside Audra the production had the same magic the LuPone production did as a whole (just go and watch Booyd Gaines and Laura Benanti in their roles there is a high quality bootleg).
And any name calling associated with this, especially some of the disgusting earlier comments re: suggesting senile white gays etc. is so ridiculous and unacceptable. I refuse to accept this childish viscous emotion it’s among the worst behaviour I’ve ever seen here and it’s not ok.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
binau said: "I’m not really sure I understand this reaction. Is the narrative now that we have to believe the show is an unqualified critical and audience word of mouth success or something else? Based on show-score.com, this board and my own reaction to this show plus the anecdotes of others in this thread I believe that the noise around this production reflectssomething.
I don’t mind that the show got raves as I said before this I kind of low key hoped they’d be kind because it’s not good for Audra or the Gypsy brand. But you can hold a gun to my head and I’m still not going to pretend that outside Audra the production had the same magic theLuPone production did as a whole (just go and watch Booyd Gaines and Laura Benanti in their roles there is a high quality bootleg).
And any name calling associated with this, especially some of the disgusting earlier comments re: suggesting senile white gays etc. is so ridiculous and unacceptable. I refuse to accept this childish viscous emotion it’s among the worst behaviour I’ve ever seen here and it’s not ok."
I love how all the deservedly glowing reviews from critics suggest that a "narrative" is taking place.
You don't have to believe it, and you don't have to mind it.
I keep reading how Gypsy has the greatest book ever created... the greatest musical of all time. Who decided this? I can think of ten shows that have books as good. It's not the greatest show ever written. It's a good show. A great show. But it's not the "best" show ever written. It's become a vanity show for actresses who have achieved a certain status... doesn't matter if the show or the role really fits them... squeeze them into the show.... Kelli O'Hara you are up next. Ready or not. Sutton Foster... get ready too. Ruthie Ann Miles get ready... we can have an Asian version going too. And I am not racist because i don't want to see an Asian version of Gypsy.
CurtainsUpat8 said: "I keep reading how Gypsy has the greatest book ever created... the greatest musical of all time. Who decided this? I can think of ten shows that have books as good. It's not the greatest show ever written. It's a good show. A great show. But it's not the "best" show ever written. It's become a vanity show for actresses who have achieved a certain status... doesn't matter if the show or the role really fits them... squeeze them into the show.... Kelli O'Hara you are up next. Ready or not. Sutton Foster... get ready too. Ruthie Ann Miles get ready... we can have an Asian version going too. And I am not racist because i don't want to see an Asian version of Gypsy.
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So funny you mentioned this. I was watching some YouTube videos the other night and was amazed at how many musicals Kelli O'Hara has done and wondered when she was going to do Gypsy. Also, when Sutton Foster was cast in Sweeney Todd right after Once Upon a Mattress, I wondered if producers forgot there were other actresses out there. Not that these two ladies aren't incredibly talented, but, yeah, squeeze them in.
Owen22 said: "These reviews are surprising but I am over the moon happy for Audra! I don't know why Jesse Greene felt he had to bend himself over backwards to justify George C Wolf's concept. I don't understand this protection of Joy Woods where no one actually said she was great (in fact some of my favorite criticsalmost completely ignored her) but no one spoke about how essentially mediocre she is in the role. I like how Sarah Haldren dissected and commented on how the concept doesn't work, however. But even she gave more kudos to Woods than she deserved. But again, these reviews cement Audra as probably theatrical history'sgreatest Rose. SoI'm very happy."
Who made you the barometer of Joy's performance? It feels like you zeroed in on her being "mediocre" and wanted to see that reflected in others opinions. Rooting for negative responses about an actors performance is uber strange. You can say she was not for you and go about your life. Yikes.
I saw tonight’s show. I might say more if I’m inspired later. I thought the first half of the first act was messy. From there it hit hard. Audra’s turn at Rose’s Turn is the best performance I’ve seen on Broadway. Her voice is piercing but is arguably wrong for the role. However, her acting is next level. She’s the Meryl Streep of Broadway. There was a spontaneous and sustained standing ovation at the end of the number that I’ve never encountered. Give her another Tony.
(Btw, we saw the matinee of Sunset and thought Nicole was well directed but superficial and a little stupid in comparison. It’s on.)
Robbie2 said: "Everyone enough already! What's happening now lately...everyone seems to be pissed off, filled with indifference or just in a bad mood all the time on this board! What's going on?Let's CHILL n Merry Christmas-Happy Holidays!"
Ensemble1698878795 said: "Who made you the barometer of Joy's performance? It feels like youzeroed in on her being "mediocre" and wanted to see that reflected in others opinions. Rooting for negative responses about anactors performanceis uber strange. You can say she was not for you and go about your life. Yikes."
Everybody on these boards declare in definitives but that hardly makes anyone a barometer on the subject on which they're speaking. And I'm sorry I do get angered when a mediocre performance is hailed or not called out. And again this kind of thing is not unusual on these boards, but I have a feeling you're mad at me because I'm calling out an actress of color.
joevitus said: "Racism is juding a person's character on the content of their skin, which at least one comment has done. Do yourown reading, if you don't know the defintion."
This is incorrect. PREJUDICE is judging a person's character on the content of their skin. RACISM is using one's power against someone based on that prejudice.
Ensemble1698878795 said: "Welp. Just got a cancellation email for tonight's performance. I hope everyone rests up and gets better."
I wonder if Audra called out or they simply have too many sick cast & crew currently?
A Chorus Line revival played its final Broadway performance on August 17, 2008. The tour played its final performance on August 21, 2011. A new non-equity tour started in October 2012 played its final performance on March 23, 2013. Another non-equity tour launched on January 20, 2018. The tour ended its US run in Kansas City and then toured throughout Japan August & September 2018.
I feel like it needs to be said every time this happens (and I get it, as some folks just don't know) but it's standard practice to not rehearse any understudies or covers until after a shows official opening night. For a show this big, one or two illnesses just a couple days after opening night can essentially shut the whole thing down. I wouldn't be surprised if their first understudy put in was scheduled for this morning, too.