Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
#25Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/8/12 at 7:47pmNo, it isn't.
wonkit
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#26Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/8/12 at 9:02pmAmazing the lengths some producers will go to in order to back out on their funding commitments.
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#27Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/8/12 at 9:17pmI believe he was an investor, not a producer. Not that it really matters.
#28Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 1:16amI do feel sorry for anyone expecting to make their Broadway debut in this. It may not happen with Rebecca.
#29Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 4:51am
"It is mysterious, who's the dead millionaire?"
Uncle Pennybags!
#30Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 7:01am
To the poster who mentioned Spider-Man not having money issues, let me direct you to this little gem of information:
Readings of the musical were held beginning in 2007, but the production was delayed several times. By early 2009, the Broadway production ran $25 million into debt, the New York Post reported, and work on it was suspended. The budget for the project was reported in March 2009 to be a record-setting $52 million. In late 2009, Bono asked Michael Cohl to step in as producer, and by May 2010 Cohl had raised the money to proceed with the project, much of it from Jeremiah J. Harris, former Chairman of Live Nation, who is also listed as a producer. Meanwhile, the musical was eventually scheduled to open at the Foxwoods Theatre on February 18, 2010, but the production was delayed again until fundraising could be completed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Turn_Off_the_Dark
bk
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/03
#32Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 8:25pm
"A friend of mine saw it in Vienna and raved about it. He was worried, however, abut it being translated to english."
There is something terribly wrong and terribly amusing about someone being worried that REBECCA, based on an ENGLISH novel, would not translate well into - ENGLISH.
These producers are amateurs, sorry. They announced this thing without having all the money together. They postponed. Then they announced again, STILL without having all the money in the bank. Rule one: Do not waste your time or ours unless you have all the money in the bank. End of story. You do NOT book a theater, pay unions, build sets, announce an opening date without having ALL the money in the bank. How stupid are these people? You have all the money in the bank or go look for another line of work, because clearly being a producers isn't working for you.
#33Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 8:39pmI wonder if the REBECCA producers have reached out to Ken Davenport? He might be able them raise the needed 4.5 million in $1000 increments.
#34Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 8:55pmIf they want to pick gullible money people, forget Davenport -- hit up the poor suckers with dough in Spider-Man. Maybe they'll feel like they can turn ****e into shinola again.
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#35Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 9:06pm
Unless I misread the article from yesterday, it doesnt seem like the producers have to RAISE 4.5 million from an investor. I took it as that money is still going to be invested, but now instead from the individual, from the estate. The delays are due to HOW they are getting the money deposited into the bank account, from the estate of the investor who died.
Also, it is common for producers to begin spending invested money BEFORE all of it comes in. Pending on the deal and the investors' agreements, once you hit a certain percentage of investment, you may begin to spend that money on predetermined expenses. (For one, a down payment on the rental of the venue. Secondly, the shops needs to start building the set and costumes. Thirdly, some marketing/advertising may need to begin sooner, pending on the calendar and on strategy.)
I also find it hard to believe that the $4.5 million comes from a single investor. It's possible. However, I'd imagine that instead it was a co-producer. Funds would have to channel through differently, if that were the case.
--Aristotle
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Broadway Legend Joined: 5/19/03
#36Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 9:26pmTranslation issues. i wouldn't doubt that's what killed "Kristina" coming to Broadway. The music is gorgeous, but the English lyrics are so ponderous and repetitive.
bk
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/03
#37Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 10:02pmCapnHook, my point is simple. It doesn't matter WHEN you start spending the dough - but you don't announce an opening date and book theaters and pay unions until ALL of it is in the bank. That's just stupid. You think David Merrick did this crap?
#38Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/9/12 at 10:27pm
bk, that's simply not how it works. If you don't have an established relationship with a theatre owner (and even if you do), you may have to spend money on a down payment to book a theatre BEFORE you have all the money in the bank. There are certain expenses that can't wait until all the money is in.
If I'm a producer, and I'm 90% funded, if I am allowed to spend the money, and if I'm sure I can raise that final 10%, I'm not going to wait to finish getting the money in the bank. I'm going to START because time is of the essence! Someone else may book that venue I want. If the shops don't start building TODAY, my sets and costumes may not be ready by my opening night.
Of all the shows I have worked on, and of all the shows my friends have worked on, I don't have a single example of a show that didn't spend any money until 100% capitalized.
--Aristotle
bk
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/20/03
#39Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/10/12 at 1:01amWell, apparently you or your friends have only worked on shows in the last decade, because this stuff did not happen before then. I understand you may have to put down payments on stuff - I get it. I also get that only fools go into rehearsals not funded. And this thing is now 4.5 million light - not exactly 90% funded.
#40Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/10/12 at 12:42pm
But that $4.5 million was pledged. From an accounting standpoint, they had raised the full capitalization.
I also get that only fools go into rehearsals not funded.
Well, that would be why they delayed the start of rehearsals, then.
Everything in life is only for now. ~ Avenue Q
There is no future, there is no past. I live this moment as my last. ~ Rent
#41Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/10/12 at 7:12pmCorrect, this recent delay is because they were anticipating receiving a check that is now not able to be signed for by its investor. And bk, you are correct that a show needs to be fully funded before rehearsals start. Not having 100% capitalization does not impede, however, getting a theater and putting a marquee up (as already pointed out).
--Aristotle
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#42Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/10/12 at 9:05pmI will also say that from the producers I have spoken to it is actually helpful to raise the rest of your capitalization once you have announced the theatre and dates for previews and opening. So waiting until you have everything in place could potentially mean you are waiting for a much longer time as that visible presence (i.e. your press release stating the dates and your theatre, the marquee going up, casting notices and auditions, all of that) can help speed up investors who may be on the fence, or bring forward some who may not even be on your radar.
#43Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 6:23amI just want to know if it's going to open and play all twelve performances it's going to have.
#44Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 10:52ambk, my friend was referring to the translation of the lyrics to english, not the story itsef.
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#45Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 12:27pm
Dos anyone known who actually passed away?
Here's the announced producer list from IBDB:
Produced by Ben Sprecher, Louise Forlenza, The Shubert Organization (Phillip J. Smith, Chairman; Robert E. Wankel, President), DC Tours Pty Ltd, Manderley Partners, Julian Spencer, Paul Abrams, Tony Fusco, Nanda Anand, Peter Bogyo, Peter Bezemes and Dennis Grimaldi. Produced in association with David Mirvish, Stage Entertainment and Larry Feinman. Produced by special arrangement with Vereinigte Bühnen Wien GmbH.
Edit: Patrick Healy of the NY Times reported that it was Paul Abrams. IBDB lists REBECCA as his only producing credit.
Updated On: 9/20/12 at 12:27 PM
wonkit
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/30/08
#46Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 12:31pmIf the estate is in probate, no check will be forthcoming any time soon. Just saying.
#47Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 9:47pm
^ I was gonna say, two weeks on a check that's held up in probate on a large estate is really being hopeful.
I'll bet it takes more like 6-8 weeks ... and that's if it isn't contested and there aren't any other legal holdups.
Still, it sounds like the check will eventually come.
But could they lose the theatre if they have to postpone the starting date(s) now?
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#48Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 11:31pmThe investor died in early August. It's been 3-5 weeks already.
--Aristotle
#49Breaking News: REBECCA $4.5 Million Short After Investor's Death - Delays Start of Rehearsals for 2 Weeks; Previews & Opening Night as Well
Posted: 9/11/12 at 11:53pm
Well, if I was a member of his or her family,
I would certainly contest his money going up in flames.
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