Broadway Legend Joined: 11/14/13
Enjolras5 said: ""Trump extends social distancing guidelines through April 30" is now the top CNN article...it's going to be a LOT longer than that, for sure..."
No kidding...I just saw someone I used to respect pull the "If you're the reason this was extended...SHAME". I wanted with every bone in my body to crack right back, because YO, it was going to get extended anyway...good grief. It's like pulling teeth trying to get people to realize just how much of a toll something like this takes, especially when you have a moron running the country who didn't deal with this crisis in time.
On another note, I've actually been wondering about when this finally ends or at least is mostly at an end. On one hand, mass hysteria in terms of the want to get back to normal abounds like crazy so I don't see people being as apprehensive to go back into 'crowds' as it seems others do. Maybe I'm wrong? Too many people still don't have a problem going out and about when we shouldn't, so what makes us think that'll change when this finally reaches it end?
As for today - Monday night
7000 more CASES in NYC from yesterday
CASES
NYC 38,087
NYS 66,544
USA 160,718
NY now has only 42% of CASES in the USA...this is really accelerating now throughout and won't peak for another 4-6 weeks outside NYC
CASES SUNDAY
NYC 33,700
NYS 59,513
USA 141,096
CASES are really accelerating outside NY now: NJ, CA, MI, LA, MA, FL, IL, CO, TX, PA
CASES - SATURDAY
Friday > Saturday
25,393 > 29,777 NYC
44,635> 52,318 NYS
95,101 > 113,805 USA
***They are saying this won'tpeak in NYfor another 14-21 days or so...
45% of CASES in NY down from 60% last Tuesday
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
It is difficult to project into the future about how people will react to being in crowds after a few more months of this crisis passes. If 100,000- 200,000 people die- and the fallout from this pandemic are as extreme as some scientists suggest they could be- then all bets are off as to how people might react. I think we will all be shell-shocked for a long time- and it could be a long while before people want to go to theaters, on planes or stay in hotels.
I'm just shocked they have not announced that shows will be closed beyond mid April. I know they have to set a definitive date at some point, and we still are not in the worst of it yet, I don't envy the people in charge of this entire thing.
I think June 1 is the closest obtainable date right now. And that's being optimistic.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/7/18
I agree about June 1. The NY apex is expected sometime in April so I think Broadway with social distancing limitations in place could start to reopen in June. Of course, that could all change depending on how bad the apex actually is and how long it lasts.
Do we know if they've gotten together (virtually) to discuss this yet, or are they waiting for the apex to hit?
I agree with June 1, just thinking of all the folks that left town when Broadway closed that have to travel back, they need to plan for that and then probably to re-quarantine for another 2 weeks once they're back in town.
Stand-by Joined: 2/26/20
It is one thing for guidelines to allow for people to be out and about again routinely, but it is quite another thing for shows to be ready to welcome patrons again ... as others have previously noted here and in other threads. I'd imagine theater offerings will remain fairly slim during at least the early summer months.
People also need to take into account new casting, shows rehearsal schedule, tech, replacing front of house etc. let’s just say that on May 1st they announce June is ok to reopen. It’s gonna take a while to get everything ready for most shows.
Updated On: 3/31/20 at 12:58 PM
I was thinking closer to the fall for a reopening tbh but I am a pretty pessimistic person. I hope people are right about June but why do you all think that? I just don't see it getting any better for awhile.
For what it’s worth, Dr. Birx, Coronavirus Response Coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, agrees this projection is likely:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
Which projection are you referring to- June or Fall for BWAY reopening?
BWAY Baby2 said: "Which projection are you referring to- June or Fall for BWAY reopening?"
Look at the link. It’s about projected deaths and use of medical resources. That will likely suggest how long it will take for things like Broadway to open back up.
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
I did look at the graph- but was not sure what to make of it- but it looks like July 1 is the date for the beginning of zero= I have never been to great reading maps or charts- but NY is June- but we must be aware of visitors coming to NYC with the virus- so July 1 looks like the date to shoot for. Do you agree? Did I read the graph right?
Updated On: 3/31/20 at 02:24 PMAll shows that plan to reopen will have a short rehearsal period to refresh any returning cast members as well as any new cast members that needed to be added.
I noticed the charts posted say:
The projections assume the continuation of strong social distancing measures and other protective measures.
Through when? Indefinitely or through the current recommendation of April 30?
Mr. Wormwood said: "I noticed the charts posted say:
The projections assume the continuation of strong social distancing measures and other protective measures.
Through when? Indefinitely or through the current recommendation of April 30?"
Good point. I’d assume continuation possibly until August as it predicts “only” 85,000 will die by then if we continue protective measures.
Broadway Star Joined: 11/10/14
Thank you for that- great chart- I am hopeful for an August date- and also hopeful that maybe the number 85,000 is high- my partner has kidney disease and I am quite distressed when confronted with numbers like this.
SmoothLover said: "A June projection is too soon...Seems unrealistic."
late summer most likely back rehearsing August - reopen hopefully after Labor Day is what I'm thinking...
Robbie2 said: "As for today - Monday night
7000 more CASES in NYC from yesterday
CASES
NYC 38,087
NYS 66,544
USA 160,718
NY now has only 42% of CASES in the USA...this is really accelerating now throughout and won't peak for another 4-6 weeks outside NYC
CASES SUNDAY
NYC 33,700
NYS 59,513
USA 141,096
CASES are really accelerating outside NY now: NJ, CA, MI, LA, MA, FL, IL, CO, TX, PA
CASES - SATURDAY
Friday >Saturday
25,393 >29,777 NYC
44,635>52,318 NYS
95,101 >113,805 USA
***They are saying this won'tpeak in NYfor another 14-21 days or so...
45% of CASES in NY down from 60% last Tuesday
As for TUESDAY night CASES -
9298 new CASES in NY from yesterday
NYC 43,139
NYS 75,813
USA 183,532
Stand-by Joined: 4/7/16
I think the real issue about when broadway will reopen is the reality of who in the hell will actually show up? I can't imagine that once Broadway gets the go ahead to reopen that there will be much of a tourist industry left and frankly I can't imagine being in a closed space of a Broadway theatre for some time to come. The economics will be bleak for a rather long time for not only producers and traditional backers but an audience that will have limited resources for travel and entertainment. A pandemic like this will create a slump that will last for a very long time and that is what is really so sad.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
Jordan Catalano said: "People also need to take into account new casting, shows rehearsal schedule, tech, replacing front of house etc. let’s just say that on May 1st they announce June is ok to reopen. It’s gonna take a while to get everything ready for most shows."
Why would they replace front of house? Most, if not all, would return. It's not the first time front of house find themselves unemployed for a lengthy period of time.
I assume the reopening date announced by the League would take into account any required tech, but I would imagine each show would be different, based on rehearsal time and any necessary re-casting.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/13/09
Fosse76 said: "Why would they replace front of house? Most, if not all, would return. It's not the first time front of house find themselves unemployed for a lengthy period of time.
I assume the reopening date announced by the League would take into account any required tech, but I would imagine each show would be different, based on rehearsal time and any necessary re-casting."
I'm guessing that, similar to what happened after 9/11, you'll find a good number of people who end up leaving NY entirely because of this. Every sector is going to be looking for new employees to augment returning employees.
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