Posted: 12/15/21 at 7:13pm
HAMILTON just tweeted tonight’s show is off
https://twitter.com/hamiltonmusical/status/1471271109916041221?s=21
Posted: 12/15/21 at 7:13pm
Considering it's a red state who has a pathetic vaccination rate, we'll say whatever we want. It's red states that are the problem and WHY this is still going on nearly two years later.
Despicable.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 7:21pm
Im curious how many non locals who used to take frequent theater trips to nyc are still doing so. I used to come 2 times a year with my daughter solely for theater, with every possible slot planned out and filled in advance, tickets purchased etc. I am missing our trips so much but given the cost of airfare, hotel and tickets to 5-7 shows (with no room to change shows/plans), I just can’t risk the cancellations now even if I’m willing to take the risk of traveling. I have to think at some point people like me impact box office, no? I totally get the valid reasons for cancelling shows so certainly not mad about that, it just keeps me from planning a trip. Once locals and those near enough to change plans easily have seen what they want to see, how will shows other than the popular tourist ones manage to fill seats?
Posted: 12/15/21 at 7:38pm
This is a bit scary.
Thankfully we have vaccines and we know the people working on the shows are vaccinated. Hopefully all mild cases and no long lasting symptoms. Just... geez. Broadway pull through!
Posted: 12/15/21 at 7:53pm
Nycat63 said: "Once locals and those near enough to change plans easily have seen what they want to see, how will shows other than the popular tourist ones manage to fill seats?"
Not only will they not in the future, it appears they aren’t now
Regarding red states, I can only speak to my home state of Oklahoma where not only are our vaccination rates abysmal (only 51% are fully vaxed, but if you include those who have also gotten their booster, it’s going to be even worse), but unless I’m in a place where masks are required (touring shows, my local record store, my mom’s nursing home), I’m often one of the very few who are masked since our Governor refuses to require mask (and/or vaccination) mandates because he believes in “individual liberties” (except when it comes to reproductive rights or BIPOC or LGBTQ equality).
I honestly don’t know how we get this to a manageable state where we can live with COVID like it’s the common flu because to get there we need the people who are already acting like we’re already there to wake up to the facts (and act accordingly) and they seem immune to facts.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:12pm
I come to NYC on cultural vacations (theatre, art, et al) 3-4 times a year with each trip lasting 5-7 days. I've trimmed my January trip down to a weekend and am giving serious thought to canceling it. As others noted here, the cost of flights and hotel make it too much of a gamble if shows are canceling at the last minute.
Updated On: 12/15/21 at 08:12 PM
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:23pm
Jordan, I hope you’re out of the hotel/quarantine in time to share your thoughts on THE MUSIC MAN! In the meantime, keep recommending streaming options!
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:34pm
I just took two trips to NYC to see 10 shows and wasn’t concerned at all on those trips. My thought process was to be prepared for cancellations and just find something else to do. I could always reschedule a cancelled show my next trip. Everything went smoothly with no cancellations. But I’ve got to say, I’m starting to get a little concerned with my January trip due to all of these cancellations. I’m ONLY going to see The Music Man, so if it gets cancelled or if Jackman/Foster are out, it will feel like I wasted a lot of money on airfare and hotel. I’m actually seriously considering canceling, but also know prices for the show have risen astronomically, putting me out of range for getting the same seats I currently have for a future date.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:43pm
JasonC3 said: "I come to NYC on cultural vacations (theatre, art, et al) 3-4 times a year with each trip lasting 5-7 days. I've trimmed my January trim down to a weekend and am giving serious thought to canceling it. As others noted here, the cost of flights and hotel make it too much of a gamble if shows are canceling at the last minute."
I was also hoping for January since my daughter will be home from college. Now I’m aiming for March but with omicron who knows. I’m no longer optimistic bc the cost is just too high for shows to fall through. It’s so depressing. Broadway and NYC was my happy place for so many years and I wasn’t ready to give it up even for awhile!
Miles I feel you. I’m in Wisconsin - we have a slightly higher vax rate but nothing to brag about and we may as well be a red state given our legislature tying the governors hands. Vast majority of people here act like its 2019 while our case numbers and hospitalizations are on par or higher than they were this time one year ago.
stay safe everyone. Fingers crossed spring might bring better things.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:44pm
The cancellations are going to begin to slow as more people get boosted and start taking more safety precautions in day-to-day life again. I know the first instinct is to panic that we’re sliding back into the beginning of the pandemic, but that’s just not the case.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:45pm
We are coming in Christmas Eve and flying out New Year's Day have booked 7 shows so far and planned to get a couple more via TKTS/Rush, etc. do the Midnight Run at Central Park. We do this every couple of years, come into town and see as many shows as we can. Our last trip was planned for April 202 and that was cancelled of course. Everything is cancellable/refundable and we are watching things carefully. We are from Los Angeles so well used to masks and vaxxed but of course still monitoring the situation.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 8:58pm
Nycat63 said: "Im curious how many non locals who used to take frequent theater trips to nyc are still doing so. I used to come 2 times a year with my daughter solely for theater, with every possible slot planned out and filled in advance, tickets purchased etc. I am missing our trips so much but given the cost of airfare, hotel and tickets to 5-7 shows (with no room to change shows/plans), I just can’t risk the cancellations now even if I’m willing to take the risk of traveling. I have to think at some point people like me impact box office, no? I totally get the valid reasons for cancelling shows so certainly not mad about that, it just keeps me from planning a trip. Once locals and those near enough to change plans easily have seen what they want to see, how will shows other than the popular tourist ones manage to fill seats?"
I live outside of Philly. Before covid, I went to NYC 3-6 times a month for day trips. Since Broadway reopening, I haven’t been to NYC once. The biggest factor for me not going to NYC isn’t actually covid, but rather the cost of travel to and from NYC. The train fare went up over $100 round trip and the bus fare increased by 15% of its precovid rate. Trust me, it’s killing me not being there but I just don’t have the money right now.
I will say though that the cancellations are a little worrisome. I would be both understanding and irked. If the cancellation was given with enough notice, then I could find another show. But if it’s close to show time, it might be harder to find a ticket for a new show.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 9:04pm
adotburr said: “The biggest factor for me not going to NYC isn’t actually covid, but rather the cost of travel to and from NYC. The train fare went up over $100 round trip and the bus fare increased by 15% of its precovid rate."
Assuming you mean Amtrak? NJ transit hasn’t gone up at all, if that’s an option for you.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 9:14pm
"Oklahoma where not only are our vaccination rates abysmal"
Well, considering Ripped Man lives in Alabama (lolz) that has a vaccination rate of 46%, Oklahoma is doing great!
Posted: 12/15/21 at 9:27pm
"Considering it's a red state who has a pathetic vaccination rate, we'll say whatever we want. It's red states that are the problem and WHY this is still going on nearly two years later.
Despicable. "
You said a while ago you were a big sports fan and if you are (which I doubt) you would know that several NFL teams are currently being decimated with COVID cases and NFL teams have high vaccination rate. Before the NFL season started, they reported that 94% of players were vaccinated. I will list the teams for you and notice where these teams are located. They are in blue states for the most part not red states. Now before you even attempt to say players travel to road games you as a sports fan should know the players are basically restricted to the hotel for the most part and stay together.
1) LA Rams
2) Cleveland Browns
3) Minnesota Vikings
4) Washington Football Team
5) Detroit Lions
6) Chicago Bears
7) Atlanta Falcons
Posted: 12/15/21 at 9:30pm
hollebolle said: "adotburr said: “The biggest factor for me not going to NYC isn’t actually covid, but rather the cost of travel to and from NYC. The train fare went up over $100 round trip and the bus fare increased by 15% of its precovid rate."
Assuming you mean Amtrak? NJ transit hasn’t gone up at all, if that’s an option for you.
"
Oh I did forget about NJ Transit! I did check out SEPTA and NJ Transit before but I’ll have to revisit. And yes for Amtrak. My local station has a direct to NYC so I just take that so I don’t have to transfer.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 10:26pm
Miles2Go2 said: "Nycat63 said: "Once locals and those near enough to change plans easily have seen what they want to see, how will shows other than the popular tourist ones manage to fill seats?"
Not only will they not in the future, it appears they aren’t now
Regarding red states, I can only speak to my home state of Oklahoma where not only are our vaccination rates abysmal (only 51% are fully vaxed, but if you include those who have also gotten their booster, it’s going to be even worse), but unless I’m in a place where masks are required (touring shows, my local record store, my mom’s nursing home), I’m often one of the very few who are masked since our Governor refuses to require mask (and/or vaccination) mandates because he believes in “individual liberties” (except when it comes to reproductive rights or BIPOC or LGBTQ equality).
I honestly don’t know how we get this to a manageable state where we can live with COVID like it’s the common flu because to get there we need the people who are already acting like we’re already there to wake up to the facts (and act accordingly) and they seem immune to facts.
"
Our Governor (Desantis) only cares about his political future..nothing else. I am also in the minority when going somewhere and wearing a mask. Sometimes I feel people are staring at me, because I'm wearing a mask. A day doesn't go by when someone stands behind me, almost on top of me. I take a few steps up to move away. They don't get the hint and they also move up. I usually do it twice and if that fails, I respond with "I'm moving away from you for a reason". I always get the response "I'm vaccinated". I tell them "so am I. So what. Social distance!"
Posted: 12/15/21 at 10:32pm
I used to come into the city (from Boston) for a weekend once a month and see 2 or 3 shows. I've been back once, and only have plans in Feb and April.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 10:41pm
Very nervous. I fly in next week and have tickets to Company Thursday, Music Man Saturday. This is also a trip that was already postponed due to Covid; we had Company tickets then (March 2020) too.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 10:42pm
Posted: 12/15/21 at 10:44pm
Sutton Ross said: "Considering it's a red state who has a pathetic vaccination rate, we'll say whatever we want. It's red states that are the problem and WHY this is still going on nearly two years later.
Despicable."
There are good and bad about every state, but if you want to keep reducing everything to red vs. blue we will never get out of this mess. Plenty of people in every state not wanting to get vaccinated, not wanting to wear masks, etc. Where I'm from in Alabama it's a very democratic area with very educated, smart people who work for Nasa, Boeing, and other engineering firms. Please educate yourself before reducing everything to us vs. them. There's a lot of grey in between.
Posted: 12/15/21 at 11:03pm
Wick3 said: "If a performance is canceled last minute due to covid, I know patrons get a refund. However, do cast members and ushers/theater/stage workers get paid too? or not?"
Yes they do because they have been scheduled. It is part of their union contracts. And if the show is cancelled for the rest of the week they get paid for all lost performances. The same applies if a show closes for other reasons like major snowstorms or power outages. I think there are union rules when shows close early with no notice but I am not 100% sure.
Updated On: 12/15/21 at 11:03 PM
Posted: 12/16/21 at 12:08am
Sutton Ross said: ""Oklahoma where not only are our vaccination rates abysmal"
Well, considering Ripped Man lives in Alabama (lolz) that has a vaccination rate of 46%, Oklahoma is doing great!"
Just showing your ignorance once again. Sad.
Posted: 12/16/21 at 12:09am
Nope. That's your vax rate. Look it up. Try educating yourself.
Sad.
