It's terrible how this situation has turned out, but I'll admit I find it funny on the Theatreboard board how they're like, "If Taron isn't there, I still will go, but I want a discount off what I paid." As much as I feel for the people that paid all that money, it's silly to be figuring out the percentage of money that Taron is worth.
I am in the same boat as you. With limited slots was able to grab two tickets for Jerusalem instead and they are refusing refunds for Taron’s absence. Does anyone know what a good mechanism is for selling West End tickets on the aftermarket then? Are there specific boards on which they are worth posting? I am used to StubHub and similar companies here as well as Twickets (once for Adele) but I never tried to sell theatre tickets. Thanks in advance for the advice! (Hey, if anyone here is in the UK and is interested - I have two tickets in the stalls, one an aisle, Wednesday June 1, with an original price of 86 pounds). :)
I really hope Taron is okay. No one wants to just walk away from a show.
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Dollypop said: "Then let us sally forth in a crusade to change its name. We endured THE PUPPETRY OF THE PENIS. We shan't endure this!"
This must be your lame attempt at humor. Would you like the title changed to Dick, Tool, Knob or Joystick?
As for The Puppetry of the Penis, did you ignore the warning and try it at home?
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A Director said: "Dollypop said: "Then let us sally forth in a crusade to change its name. We endured THE PUPPETRY OF THE PENIS. We shan't endure this!"
This must be your lame attempt at humor. Would you like the title changed to Dick, Tool, Knob or Joystick?
As for The Puppetry of the Penis, did you ignore the warning and try it at home?
What a crude suggestion! I'm chagrined by the suggestion!
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West End producing must be the easiest job in the world - blast a movie star name around the city and on social media, take millions of pounds of revenue from unsuspecting customers and then when someone tries to call them out on it you are told ‘NOTHING MATTERSSSSS EXCEPT THE HEALTH OF ONE INDIVIDUAL or YOUU PAID FOR THR SHOW’. Meanwhile the producers probably can’t wait for their extravagant summer holidays and to buy their privileged children expensive London flats off the back of working customers - they probably even have more money to spare now that Taron is off and they still get to run away with the money. But of course NOTHING ELSE MATTEEEERRRRS. Well it’s springtime in Germany d that’s for sure.
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Slightly off topic but had to cancel my mid april trip to London, I have single tickets available for
Jerusalem
Prima Facie
and Burnt City
for sale
Yes, health matters over entertainment. And you are the only one freaking out and screaming in this thread. It's clear you don't care what is going on with Taron and that's fine, but mentioning Germany in Springtime is disgusting and of very poor taste. No amount of screaming will atone your situation.
I hope Taron is alright because, once again, that is more important than a play.
Two things can be true. I hope he is better mentally and maybe wasn't up to 8 shows a week. It's a haul.
AND I hope they refund properly for people who might have paid a lot of money for someone who is no longer there.
There. See, no snarky response.
Exactly. This false dichotomy is just a trick to distract the conversation and also appear morally virtuous at the same time. It’s very bizarre. The two concepts (Taron’s health and the producers immoral and legally questionable behaviour) actually are completely unrelated concepts.
Do the producers’ actions impact Taron’s wellbeing or ability to access health services? No. Does Taron’s wellbeing or ability to access health services impact the Producers’ actions? No. Does talking about the Producers actions here impact Taron’s wellbeing or ability to access Health Services? No. It’s a completely separate conversation. There is no need to distract this particular conversation with this mantra, especially when it is clear that we are discussing this conversation with good intentions and good faith for consumers who are being ripped off in a way that would never happen in NYC (to be clear I have seen the show and I am not personally seeking a refund lol).
Wishing Taron well can and should continue to be discussed in this thread if people want to, it just has nothing to do with the issue that is also being discussed. There is no need to draw any connection between these issues. And I love being able to reference this case with ‘The Producers’ musical because we are on a Broadway forum, but of course someone instead of just accepting in good faith I am trying to be playful has to say it’s ‘disgusting’. This place sometimes is just the worst.
Exactly. I just wonder if it's stuff brought on by doing the show? Does he have a history with live performance? I don't remember the show being particularly taxing to the actors? Maybe this version is more intense.
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binau said:
Wishing Taron well can and should continue to be discussed in this thread if people want to, it just has nothing to do with the issue that is also being discussed. There is no need to draw any connection between these issues. And I love being able to reference this case with ‘The Producers’ musical because we are on a Broadway forum, but of course someone instead of just accepting in good faith I am trying to be playful has to say it’s ‘disgusting’. This place sometimes is just the worst.
What you say makes perfect sense. And as far as this place being the worst, it's mostly just Sutton and a couple others who insist on spreading their toxicity around.
...to bring this back to the subject line:
I don't think there's any logical world in which this moves to Broadway without stars. And Jonathan Bailey is not a star. (Even Taron's name value is questionable in the US despite his credentials)
Agreed, sort of. I think Elliot - with Angels and Company - def has an "it factor" about her with the NYC crowd, but it would def need a few great actors to make it profitable. I'll guess we can wait for reviews, but, yeah, I think it needs a few names. If "Betrayal" barely made it, similar concept and design, then not sure about this.
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Jonathan Bailey is not a star"
After season 2 of Bridgerton, I'm not so sure about that. He'd get me to buy a ticket.
What are the seats are like at the Ambassadors? I typically like to sit on the aisle to have more room, but there don't seem to be a ton of aisle seats for when I'm planning on seeing it. Is it a tight fit in the seats?
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mattmarkowski99 said: "What are the seats are like at the Ambassadors? I typically like to sit on the aisle to have more room, but there don't seem to be a ton of aisle seats for when I'm planning on seeing it. Is it a tight fit in the seats?"
Aisle!! I was in mezz and leg room was limited.
Bailey is arguably a star - there's a reason more movie stars are making movies exclusively for Netflix nowadays - but the question is would the Broadway producers be smart enough not to ask for the exorbitant prices that the West End was asking?
Just got out of tonight’s performance and WOW. Bailey’s doing one of those non-stop marathon performances that’ll be remembered for quite a long time. I remember loving him in “Company” but this just really cements him as a GREAT stage actor.
Taron commented leaving the show here:
“Toward the end of last year, a close family member was diagnosed with cancer, and I dropped out of a film to come home and be with that person,” he explained. “I thought that, with the play, I was ready to go back to work, but I wasn’t. I had to leave, and it was sad, and absolutely one of the hardest decisions I’ve had to make.”
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imeldasturn said: "Taron commented leaving the show here:
“Toward the end of last year, a close family member was diagnosed with cancer, and I dropped out of a film to come home and be with that person,” he explained. “I thought that, with the play, I was ready to go back to work, but I wasn’t. I had to leave, and it was sad, and absolutely one of the hardest decisions I’ve had to make.”"
That explains a ton - the stress of caring for a family member with cancer will really take a toll on you, and I can't imagine adding the pressures of a stage show to that. I definitely understand the impulse to get back to work as soon as possible , but it also makes sense that Taron would have exhaustion and a weakened immune system.
I saw a regional production of this and was curious what others thought of the play. This thread was, understandably, focused on the casting. But I was disappointed by how little the script had to say about sexuality, social acceptance of bisexuals, and the different expectations placed on same sex vs. m/f relationships. If it was updated today there'd also be talk of polyamory and open relationships.
It's really about a submissive man who's grown tired of his relationship but afraid to leave it. He's so milquetoast, at least when I saw it, that his two partners pull focus. After fighting with each other they gradually realize that he's the one pushing them to fight and make his decisions for him.
Ben Wishaw, who starred in the original production, was recently in a film called Passages that tells a similar story. That one makes its bisexual protagonist a more compelling (and complex) figure.
I hated the play and won't see it again no matter who was starring in it.
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