That comment by topher implies that this thread isn't racist, which in turn makes it racist. RACIST, I TELL YOU! <--- there ya go :)
Whew...I feel better now.
Anyone got a cigarette?
Playbill p/u the story:
Foster told Variety that he expected the group, which he started June 16, to provoke a discussion among a fairly small group of theatre folk about the merits of bringing Hollywood stars to the Tony telecast, both as presenters and as frequent awardees, and whether that overshadows the contributions of working, non-celebrity theatre talent.
Foster said to Variety that he was surprised but heartened by how quickly his group has become popular. “Maybe if there’s enough people,” he said, “we can do something about it as a theater community.”
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In the name of Andrew Lloyd Sondheim - this is getting re-damn-diculous.
That is bullsh*t. Discussion my ass, it's been hellish since the beginning.
Welcome to GIVE THE TONYS BACK TO BROADWAY-- Broadway's version of the Taliban.
I saw A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC again tonight, and had this stupid thread on my mind the whole show!
And by the way, Catherine was luminous and terrific.
I hope she got a receipt for the award.
Kevin Adams (HAIR) & Ken Billington (THE DROWSY CHAPERONE) [Lighting Designers]
Judith Schoenfeld (GREY GARDENS) & Barclay Stiff (LOSING LOUIE) [Production Stage Managers]
Rachel Bress (9 TO 5) & Geoffrey Garret (MARY POPPINS) [Associate Choreographers]
Marc Bruni (LEGALLY BLONDE) & Tara Young (THE PIRATE QUEEN) [Associate Directors]
Roger Allers (THE LION KING) & Rupert Holmes (CURTAINS) [Book writers]
Sergio Trujillo (JERSEY BOYS) & Meryl Tankard (TARZAN) [Choreographers]
Kimberly Ann Harris (THE COLOR PURPLE) & Chris Clay (42nd STREET) [Performers]
Tom Broecker (EVERYDAY RAPTURE) & Elizabeth Hope Clancy (PASSING STRANGE) [Costume Designers]
Cecille O'Reilly (AUGUST: OSAGE COUNTY) & Stephen Gabis (THE 39 STEPS) [Dialect Coaches]
Neil Armfield (EXIT THE KING) & Gary Griffin (THE APPLE TREE) [Directors]
Rick Sordelet (110 IN THE SHADE) & Thomas Schall (CORAM BOY) [Fight Directors]
Jonathan Deans (LA CAGE AUX FOLLES) & Peter Hylenski (SHREK) [Sound Designers]
Matt Clemens (LES MISERABLES) & Angelique Ilo (THE WEDDING SINGER) [Swings]
These are just a random one-credit sampling of people who have worked on Broadway. Names that no one outside of the theatre industry would know. Are these the type of people that Hunter Foster would want to be presenters at the Tonys?
If so, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But the consequence may be that CBS drops the broadcast.
Again I pose the question: is it worth it for the Tonys to become "more Broadway" and we potentially lose Broadway's 3-hour commercial?
Playbill p/u the story:
Is it a little disingenuous that the Playbill story quotes this group's rewritten description, rather than the "...We've had enough!" description that it started out with?
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/6/04
wow.. I finally was able to see what all the fuss was about on Facebook... all I have to say is that this facebook group is pretty pathetic as are most of the posters... it's quite sad... opinions are fine and all but a lot of them just really do seem to come from a place of bitterness...
so my friends always ask me why i don't have that many theater friends... and I always tell them that most theater people annoy the crap out of me... and I now have substantial proof as to why I choose not to hang around theater folk! not saying everyone... but this group is enough evidence for me!
Is it a little disingenuous that the Playbill story quotes this group's rewritten description, rather than the "...We've had enough!" description that it started out with?
Yes, but maybe they didn't see it until after he changed it. But still, at least mention the change...
Who gave Hunter Foster the Playbill password?
It literally WANTS people to join.
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/05
It is stupid that a legitimate desire to have an awards ceremony be about what it is about has turned into a mis-directed stance from many on both sides of this fence.
The issue of award shows not being about their topic even stems over to the CMTs, which featured Paula Dean and Jersey Shore cast members doing a Tele-prompted skit. Just another odd example of an award ceremony clawing for hipness.
Initially, several people on here misread what Foster's group name said, and immediately began attacking. On the other hand, many foolish people on Foster's group extended it to immature bashing of Hollywood actors on Broadway (which prompted me to remove my membership and prior posts for fear of being misinterpreted).
I destest that so many argue the wrong points in deep discussions (I find this true in the debate over political issues, and won't get into them here). The argument is about how the ceremony needs to honor the theatre, and yet so-called "supporters" are immaturely attacking Zeta-Jones and seeming to want to tear down at the legitimacy of film actors. There are ****ty so-called "artists" in any creative medium, and not more in one than the other.
Note: I'm sure many of the "5 things" are not requirements on the writers' parts...They're suggestions, ideas... Or at least they should be... (again, so many foolish things are said on that group that the legitimate hopes might be misread as demands as well).
By the way, did you know that when PBS hosted the first hour, CBS was somehow able to feature all the scenes and musical numbers in a two-hour slot?! And the awards for actors, directors, choreography, and productions along with them?
Just caught up after being away all day. Those 4 pages were exhausting.
"Look at what well meant did."
Le sigh.
^ ThankstoPhantom is SPOT ON.
Misinterpreting Hunter's sentiments, then his having to defend himself, but too late because his "supporters" post extreme bashing, and we here at BWW bash them.
Out of control.
Hugh Jackman for example. Nobody said much about him winning and hosting the Tonys and his Broadway chops were precisely the same as CZJ i.e. nil.
Sieber I think is p'd because he is a friends with Hannah Waddingham who played Desiree in the London production. She did not transfer although great in the role. I assume the producers felt they needed a couple of big names to sell the show and as the grosses when the stars are out show, they are right
Umm... Wasn't Waddingham NEVER going to transfer? Before her passing weren't Natasha Richardson & Vanessa Redgrave going to play the roles.
Hunter, Hunter, Hunter.
I knock the Tony Awards as much as anyone, but it happens to be a nationally broadcast, 3 hour TV commercial for Broadway. By the way Hunty, that's a good thing--a friend's kid is coming in from out of town to see American Idiot because she watched the cast perform on the Tonys. She watched the Tonys only because she found out Green Day was performing ON THE TONYS! See how it works? Doubt she and her friends would have tuned in to the Tonys down in Philly just to see Jen Cody as a dancing bunny in Shrek.
I'm pretty sure most of the evil Hollywood invaders who appeared on the Tonys have actually been on Broadway, or are part of the new trend of celebrity producers (also a good thing, Foster).
But isn't even Broadway too commercial for such a hallowed institution as the theater? I think the Tonys should be presented at a black box theater downtown, hosted by Hunter Foster, untarnished thespian extraordinaire, featuring household names Jen Cody, and Tony Yazbeck and backed up by a few dozen angry actors who think Catherine Zeta-Jones and Denzel Washington stole their jobs. I hope CBS will be interested in airing that.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
@CapnHook's first message - tl;dr
@the second - Misinterpreting Hunter's sentiments, then his having to defend himself, but too late because his "supporters" post extreme bashing, and we here at BWW bash them.
That's a titch disingenuous. He and his wife were publicly slagging Catherine Zeta Jones on Facebook, and as already noted, the original statement of purpose or whatever was a lot more reactionary and babyish.
As for we at BWW "bashing" them, I've said it before and I'll say it again - actors are always complaining about how "vicious" BWW is, but these numbskulls were ready to become a lynch mob because of Catherine Zeta Jones.
What a bunch of whiny, pissy brats.
Updated On: 6/19/10 at 03:58 AM
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
I think the Tonys should be presented at a black box theater downtown, hosted by Hunter Foster, untarnished thespian extraordinaire, featuring household names Jen Cody, and Tony Yazbeck and backed up by a few dozen angry actors who think Catherine Zeta-Jones and Denzel Washington stole their jobs. I hope CBS will be interested in airing that
OMG, that sounds like an Equity Showcase in HELL!
That was my inspiration, Phyllis!
When the transfer was first mooted, there was talk she would go with it.
So even though most of the actors who won started off in theatre before going to Hollywood now they are no longer allowed to be a part of it?
Zeta Jones worked the theatre stage here in the UK, i saw her a few times. This stupid group seems to make it sound like she woke up one morning and said 'I wanna be on Broadway' and got in.
God i hope Hunter continues trying to get TV or Film work and the industry keeps him out, you know, because hes from theatre and they dont want theatre actors invading.
Pathetic
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