I'M GLAD MATILDA LOST LAST NIGHT!- Page 4

[Movidude742]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 12:55am

See, me, I am glad that there were two shows that have such great followings and that it could have gone either way. The race between those two shows has been good for Broadway and good for all of us.

[Lousy]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 1:07am

BWW: where casual racism is not only allowed, it's encouraged.

[ArtMan]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 7:32am

Saw both Tony Week. Enjoyed both. But loved Matilda a little more.

[jayinchelsea]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 8:25am

"Casual racism"? Did I miss something?

As a concierge, I am asked for theatre recommendations every day, and you have to size up the customer and help them make the right choice. It's tough to recommend a show you dislike, but it's tougher when you recommend something you do like and your client hates. A recent recommendation of VANYA et al resulted in a furious client who I think wanted to punch me in the face.

When asked what I like (and yes, I am very critical, and yes, I LOVE theatre and want every show to be great but, no, many of them are not), I'm just grateful that BUYER AND CELLAR returns next week. I sold dozens of tickets for it during its limited first run, and everyone thanked me, particularly because they would never have known about it.

And personally, I can recommend PIPPIN (or PIPPIN DU SOLEIL, as we like to call it) to most people, because it's fun and splashy and the light rock score is pretty.

[nycmusical]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 11:08am

I love children but this last year we had too much of it onstage!!! seriously!

[doodlenyc]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 11:54am

I personally think it's always terrific when someone can rhyme, oh,

let's say,

"yeah"

with "yeah".

No wonder y'all understood the lyrics!

[gchris11]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 12:17pm

That is just one of the songs and in mho not one of the better songs. I saw Matilda in London and here in NYC I could not understand the lyrics when the kids sing. I am very happy Billy and Kinky won. Well deserved win.

[best12bars]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 12:34pm

I enjoyed the performances on the Tonys, but neither show seemed like a blockbuster hit, based on everything I saw and heard.

It appears to be a weak year for new musicals.

The best "new musical" number on the Tony telecast was from "A Christmas Story."

[gchris11]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 12:41pm

I actually thought it was the Best new show of the season all around, but it was seasonal. It had everything I look for in a show and it was a nice take on the movie. I went in with low expectations and the show BLEW ME AWAY!!! Great numbers, great cast, great story. Brought back a lot of family memories of Christmases past.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 2:47pm

I saw both Matilda and Kinky Boots in previews, after having not heard much about either. Since then, I've read criticisms and praise for both shows, and heard both scores multiple times. After all that, I still cannot fathom how anyone can think Kinky Boots is a better show than Matilda. Do I understand how it's more marketable? yes. Do I understand why a tourist might like it? yes. But wow I thought Matilda was the better musical by a very significant margin, and I'm surprised the Tony voters didn't agree with me.

Updated On: 6/11/13 at 02:47 PM

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 2:50pm

^ agreed. Also, very nice avatar pic. :)

[labwyfan]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 2:59pm

^agreed too. I went into both with a pretty open mind. Adored Matilda...liked Kinky.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 3:17pm

I wonder why it has to be either or? Couldn't someone enjoy Matilda AND Kinky Boots? I know I certainly did.

[JBroadway]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 4:52pm

"Couldn't someone enjoy Matilda AND Kinky Boots? I know I certainly did."

I did too. I'm sure many in the Broadway community wish we didn't have to compare apples-and-oranges shows, but we are discussing the outcome of the Tony Awards, which is a competition and inherently requires comparison among shows.

I didn't go into either show thinking "let's see how this compares to Kinky Boots/Matilda" but since we are discussing the Tony awards, I feel very strongly that Matilda should have won Best Musical.

[Theater'sBestFriend]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 7:11pm

Both shows obviously have great merit, and each has its fans. Kinky Boots' win for the Drama League and Outer Critics Circle as well as the Tony Best Musical Awards show that Sunday night was no fluke.

However, it seems unfortunate that there is a thread gloating about the fact Matilda didn't take the Tony over Kinky Boots. Is it really necessary for the awards to generate such gratuitously bitter competition? I wish folks could be a bit more gracious to their worthy competitors, whether in victory or in defeat.

[bdn223]

Posted: 6/11/13 at 8:26pm

There 5 Majors Factors in Kinky Boots victory:
1) RSC pissed off many Broadway producers, including the Neaderlanders, when they chose the Dodgers to produce Matilda on Broadway since they were not "in the running" ( aka kissing major butt). Many of these producers spent a lot of money on trying to get to produce Matilda on Broadway, and were sore loosers.

2) The creative team publicly stating that they did not want to "dumb down the show for American audiences".

3)Producers trying to play politics to get the most Tony ins by pushing Carvl into Leading. Actor when he is clearly supporting combined with the attempt to get the Matildas a joint nomination after the billy backlash.

4)The TERRIBLE sound design, which you could argue also played a factor in their loss for both Best Score and Orchestration because how can you judge a score if you can't understand half of it?!?

5)Telling Road presenters that they know their audience better than the presenters do.

Updated On: 6/12/13 at 08:26 PM

[Theater'sBestFriend]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 2:35pm

That analysis, like that arithmetic, is flawed. Kinky Boots won not only the Tony, but also Drama League and Outer Critics Circle for Best Musical, as well as a slew of other awards. Matilda was a strong contender and put up a good fight. But the Tony result was no fluke. Voters of different organizations and profiles thought Kinky Boots was the best musical over and over.

This season turned out to be an exciting race between a juggernaut and a dark horse. There is much to appreciate in both shows, and I hope they both have long runs that audiences can enjoy. Much remains to be appreciated and discussed about both shows. I think it's time to do that graciously and civilly without gloating or bitterness.

[KathyNYC2]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 2:42pm

^^^ That...well said.

[broadway guy]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 2:43pm

I'M GLAD LAURA OSNES LOST ALSO!!!

Glad! GLAD I TELL YA!

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 3:47pm

Why is that flawed arithmetic? Wouldn't those same factors influence the other awards as well? I'd also argue that Ben Brantley's Matilda review (ironically) hurt it, because I think a lot of people rolled their eyes at the tongue bath and couldn't stomach the idea of further rewarding the show after it. Just a thought.

Also... was Kinky considered a dark horse?? Going into the season I would've considered them a behemoth simply based on the star power of the creative team. Something like Avenue Q I'd call a true dark horse.

[KathyNYC2]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 4:01pm

I think the comment about "bad arithmetic" was literally referring to the numbers. The poster said there were 4 major reasons why Matilda lost and then listed 5.

[DAME]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 7:55pm

Kinky won. That is all.

[Kad]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 8:31pm

I'm glad everyone is still comparing Matilda and Kinky Boots. Next, we shall debate the merits of soup versus cake.

[jackieoh]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 8:45pm

I really do think its apples and oranges here. I love Porter but I have no desire to see Kinky Boots, especially after what I feel was the weakest performance of the evening on Sunday. I found the Matilda performance, however, enthralling and I have since purchased premium seats to see the show later this summer. They play to two different audiences.

Art is subjective.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 6/12/13 at 9:34pm

Soup is so middle-of-the-road. Cake is sophisticated!