Mike Pence Gets "Boo'd" at HAMILTON Tonight — Page 8

GreasedLightning said: "The cancellation line is not guaranteed. It is not a right. Everyone knows that. Stop crying."

GreasedLightning said: "Oh, please. Do you even understand the point of house seats???????"

Updated On: 11/19/16 at 05:08 PM

MyFavoriteBrunette said: "GreasedLightning said: "MyFavoriteBrunette said: "MarkBearSF said: "I imagine that they took up at least 6 seats for the party of Pence, his wife and daughter and close-in secret service. I wonder who had been promised house seats - only to have them taken away at the last minute.



Who got bumped? Probably 6 people who had hopes of getting in from the Cancellation Line.



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The cancellation line is not guaranteed. It is not a right. Everyone knows that. Stop crying.

Lol! I'm not crying. I saw the show 6 times and not via the cancellation line. But like the many hopeful who do the line, that's 6 less tickets that go towards anyone who waited. That's all...

Carey on...





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And your butt in those seats all five times after your first is ALSO five less seats gone to hopefuls who have been waiting who haven't seen it yet. Lol.

I will, indeed, Carey on. Thank you.

Updated On: 11/19/16 at 05:10 PM

Can we guess trump will be seeing the tour when they get to Washington

schubox said: "bigbelterbaby said: "The cast was clearly uncomfortable with Pence being there so I'm sure their energy was directed at him.

I dont see why Lin-Manuel Miranda thought it was appropriate to write a speech and have one of his cast members read it to Pence in front of everyone.

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They knew he was coming. They gave him tickets so they could read the speech to him.



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Heaven-forbid we allow someone we may disagree with to enjoy a night at the theater. It is an absolute safe bet that there were others in the audience who went to the show hoping to escape from the vitriol of the previous 18 months - - and were not pleased to have politics intrude into their night-out.

And preaching from the stage to an audience member is not a "conversation." Nor should this industry be seeking to make the relationship between audience and cast a "conversation."

GhostXmasPast said: "schubox said: "bigbelterbaby said: "The cast was clearly uncomfortable with Pence being there so I'm sure their energy was directed at him.

I dont see why Lin-Manuel Miranda thought it was appropriate to write a speech and have one of his cast members read it to Pence in front of everyone.

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They knew he was coming. They gave him tickets so they could read the speech to him.



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Heaven-forbid we allow someone we may disagree with to enjoy a night at the theater. It is an absolute safe bet that there were others in the audience who went to the show hoping to escape from the vitriol of the previous 18 months - - and were not pleased to have politics intrude into their night-out.

And preaching from the stage to an audience member is not a "conversation." Nor should this industry be seeking to make the relationship between audience and cast a "conversation."



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Why are you putting conversation in quotes? I didn't call it that. And it's their show, if they want to make an announcement afterwards they can. Are you offended by the Broadway Cares pitches? Some people don't appreciate paying a ton of money for seats and then hit up for more money

Updated On: 11/19/16 at 07:13 PM

Retweeted Jeeves Williams (@jeeveswilliams):

Trump’s so angry at theatre, he's gonna try to build a fourth wall.

"So theater shouldn't be a conversation between the actor and audience?"

A lecture is not a conversation. Nor is a sermon, a tongue-lashing, or a harangue. It's a one-way street. The actor does all the talking, and the captive audience has to sit there without any chance to rebut what it hears.

That's no conversation. Rather it's a stacked deck, with the audience as patsies.

BeadleDeedle said: "Wait. So theater shouldn't be a conversation between the actor and audience? Wow! I guess artists have been getting it wrong for thousands of years! I'll just rip up my MFA and forget why I got into the arts in the first place! Thanks!

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Context.

Acting is a metaphorical "conversation" between actors and audience.

But calling out a specific member of the audience / directing an extemporaneous off-script message to that audience member as he or she is leaving the theater? I'm not especially interested in that becoming a common occurance. And I'm even less interested in audience members initiating their own dialogue with the cast. It's just not the time or place. Appropriate feedback given generously seems more appropriate.

There are endless forums to express one's personal views about any number of subjects. It's just not - to me - a great idea to bring that into the theater. This isn't about ideology. It's about decorum.

"But calling out a specific member of the audience / directing an extemporaneous off-script message to that audience member as he or she is leaving the theater?"



It wasn't extemporaneous, because it was clearly prepared in advance. What it was was both a set-up and a sucker punch. Neither one is either appropriate or honorable.

It is disconcerting to see how many of you value the concepts of respect and decorum even when the person in question has caused tangible harm to thousands of people. Pence didn't bother to fund STD treatment programs in his state because he thinks gay people are immoral, and he actually caused an HIV outbreak in 2015 because of it. A man who does vile things does not deserve anyone's respect- he deserves scorn and ridicule. Showing him unearned respect won't keep him from hurting people. Rebuking him and his ideas will.



Also, LOL at all the people clutching their pearls that the theatre was used for a (incredibly mild) political statement. Y'all know that theatre is a literal extension of politics, yes?

gypsy101 said: "schubox said: "Didn't the cast say this? I know Kail and Sellers and Miranda worked on the speech. And I thought I read somewhere they decided to grant his request because they saw an opportunity to say something to him "

i didn't hear Brandon Victor Dixon mention Lin writing the message so i wasn't sure"

From the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/us/mike-pence-hamilton.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0 :

The statement that Mr. Dixon read was written by the show’s creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda; its director, Thomas Kail; and the lead producer, Jeffrey Seller, with input from cast members, Mr. Seller said.

“We had to ask ourselves, how do we cope with this?” Mr. Seller said. “Our cast could barely go on stage the day after the election. The election was painful and crushing to all of us here. We all struggled with what was the appropriate and respectful and proper response. We are honored that Mr. Pence attended the show, and we had to use this opportunity to express our feelings.”

Mr. Seller said that there was some discussion about whether it was appropriate to inject a political statement into the night, and that those involved decided to wait until the end of the performance. He said no cast members had skipped the performance to protest Mr. Pence’s appearance.